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Suicide Rates from 1950-2000

thetrollking

April 22, 2011

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Title	Suicide Rates from 1950-2000
Author	thetrollking
Upvotes	36
Comments	42
Date	April 22, 2011 8:02 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/gv7dk/suicide_rates_from_19502000/
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.......... I'm beginning to suspect that English isn't your primary language, as you have continually missed my point.

Making popcorn is not attempting suicide. Really, go to dictionary.com and look up the words "attempt" and "commit" and then go to google and look at the results when you search for "attempted suicide" versus "committed suicide."

I honestly cannot believe you're still bothering me about this. These are facts and it's the way the words are used in English. Psychologically, women use more "passive" means of attempting suicide, while men use more direct, irreversible means of attempting suicide. This means that women are more likely to be rescued or stopped or survive a suicide attempt, while men are more likely to attempt suicide and die quickly. Ergo, men are more likely to actually commit suicide.

Does it make sense now?

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OK...that is a shitty pdf. What it shows is that it has actually gone up since the 50s but in the last 10-15 yrs has gone back down to the level it was at in the 50s. In the 50s it was ~17(per 100k) and in the 90s (the grrl power 90s when I had several friends kill themselves) it was ~20 (per 100k) and has since leveled off to its original number found in the 50s. This actually only looks at 2005, so we don't know from this data if it has gone up or down. It does show that female suicide rate has gone up. Which makes sense, women wanted mens roles because they thought they were better but here in the MRM we know that those feminist assumptions are incorrect, women have always been more valued.

What is more interesting to look at are the numbers for 2005.

In 2005 from the age group of 5-14 204 boys killed themselves and 68 girls killed themselves...damn and it only get's worse.

In the 15-24 yr old group it was 3489 males and 713 females.

In the 25-34 group it was 4059 males and 922 females.

In the 35-44 group it was 5257 men and 1719 females..shit.

If you look at the total for that year, 2005, there were, according to this pdf, 25,848 male deaths and 6,711 female deaths.

How many people have we lost in afganistan and Iraq? I guess these numbers are correct, I have seen averages per year of 26-30k men offing themselves. I do want to point out that we lost about 58,000 soldiers in the Vietnam war and we built a memorial for them. In two years time you get about that same number of men killing themselves in this misandric society. Also, the ~26k number is the conservative estimate. It doesn't cover instances where guys don't leave notes or where they crash cars on purpose or overdose.

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Yeah, I have seen that before. The car crash breakdown is especially interesting. I see no reason to think that driving 60% more, mainly through longer commutes, would cause more severe accidents. It would be interesting to see what percentage of those crashes are due to truck drivers, who are known to push the safety limits on hours driven and use speed and other drugs to stay awake.

I really don't see how driving longer distances would mean deadlier crashes for men. I guess the interstates might be used more or maybe falling asleep at the wheel but those are tenuous explanations at best. The same goes for driving drunk. I see just as many girls and women drinking and driving, hell...I went through a year or so where every gal I met had atleast one DUI.

I do think there are two other areas that cause or exaggerate male suicides. Boys are almost exclusively stimulants to treat ADD/ADHD as children. These drugs aren't as potent as coke or crack or other amphetamines but I bet their repeated use, along with abusing them, has similiar effects. I did a lot of research into this when, and after, I was in rehab (for a weed arrest) and amphetamines literally burn out the pleasure center of the brain. I had two counselors, one a feminist sociologist and another a excon. The excon had served 10 yrs in prison for being caught with half a million in drug money, hundreds of pounds of coke and several assault rifles in the late 70s and then became a counselor.

He was a weird guy. He did so much coke over a five year period that he literally had burnt out the pleasure, dopamine etc, centers of his brain. The guy literally couldn't become happy in any real way. We would see him cramming his face with sugary food to get the smallest rush and it was something to oberve when he broke down crying watching some sandra bullock movie we had to watch one day.

here is a post from the spearhead awhile back about Ritalin and strokes, which is just a guess but makes sense. I really wouldn't be surprised if things like Ritalin and it's constant use plays some part in male suicide. Several of the guys who I have known who killed themselves, especially one of my best friends and former room mates, were prescribed Ritalin and other types of amphetamines as boys and even used to sell it in the dorms to people.

What could ten or 15 years of constant use of a light stimulant cause to the brain? Then there is the fact that boys have their identities deconstructed in schools and media, while girls are given explicit and implicit instruction to abuse boys and are built up in classes.

As a example I was 10 yrs old when one day I went to school and all the girls, even a few teachers, were joking about this woman named Lorena Bobbit. That is a fairly explicit message of not being valued.

There is actually a equation, I remember seeing it referenced in one of the Bering in Mind articles, or algorithm that describes all the necessary conditions for someone to commit suicide. It has a lot of factors, some relating to loss of friends or death in the family or relationship breakups but one interesting one is about social isolation.

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