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[–]Sharky-Dude 54 points55 points56 points 6 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
Well its slightly a relief that the comments aren't full of "you go girl"
[+]Szudar -44 points-43 points-42 points 6 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
At the same time, "I will not be hiring a single woman" comment is highly upvoted on this subreddit. Unfortunately, /r/MensRights seems to be pretty misogynistic nowadays.
[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Oh hi feminist.
[–]Szudar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I don't use this label but Women's rights are as important as Men's rights in my opinion.
I wouldn't be cool with reverse situation when men lost career opportunities because "some men are terrible", so why should I be cool with this shit? Was that sub took over by mgtow or other group of incels?
[–]Mackowatosc13 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Women's issues are not our problem. They can handle them, by themselves, like grownups do.
[–]Szudar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Depends on issue. It's basically same as with men's issues, a lot of them are individual problem that can be handled by one person but some issues are more complicated and that's where Men's rights activism and Women's rights activism can help.
[–]Mackowatosc 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women's rights activism
is not our problem, really. We dont play in the same team anymore. If they cant cut it, too bad.
[–]1LegendaryWombat 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Most people on here you will find don't want to strip rights from women, although things surrounding abortion and children...there certainly needs to be balance there, I am not smart enough to think of a solution.
Men do lose career opportunities for a variety of reasons these days, hear of gender quotas? Hear that when hirings are done gender blind, men tend to do better? Ever hear of female only companies which self destructed?
Alright, the latter is mostly just for fun because of how stereotypical such a thing would be, yet it happened.
Point is, there is already discrimination going on, mostly hidden and never in the media, in the light of day for all to see. Or its given a nice name, affirmative action. Which flat out doesn't work, more than once.
[–]Szudar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It sounds like you agree with me that gender based discrimination is bad thing. Same as one man is different than other man, women differs between each other too.
I guess you agree that "not hiring women" as a rule is ridiculously stupid idea?
[–]1LegendaryWombat 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Discrimination is fine for certain things, discrimination based on meritocracy makes sense, you want the best person for stuff. personal preference, if you're say, looking for a partner, same deal, as long as you're not an ass about it.
Not really, these days its actually a smart business decision, thats how capitalism works.
Do i disagree with it morally? Absolutely. But profit has little to do with morality. Until tougher punishments are given for false accusations and people are actually treated with an innocent until proven guilty approach, its the safe bet. You don;t have to hire lawyers or spend time and effort dealing with it, you don't need to waste resources investigating the claims and, should you lose, you don't need to pay out. without women, you are typically only left with overly aggressive gay men, which seem to be a minority of a minority.
And it makes more sense than netflix banning all physical contact or something. They seem like unnecessary measures, and they are, but because of a few bad eggs, it ruins things for everyone else.
[–]Szudar -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Discrimination is fine for certain things
Yeah, I asked about specific sort of discrimination
these days its actually a smart business decision
It's bad decision but for most businesses not that significant profit-wise. It's bad morally and sign of some paranoia. You guys spend too much time reading on most extreme situations and you lost touch with reality.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Except guys on average work more hours so profit wise its probably better.
[–]1LegendaryWombat 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No you didn't, but i gave it anyway
It's bad decision
No it isn't. as long as they do not outright tell anyone thats the plan there is no downside. You don't have to give anyone maternity leave, and on average your workers will generally work longer hours and in worse conditions and there will be few to none sexual harassment lawsuits because the opportunity is not there.
You guys spend too much time reading on most extreme situations and you lost touch with reality.
You say that like we're allbusiness owners, most of the people instituting these kinds of policies are not MRA or even partially associated with. Also, thats why we have police, its the same type of thing. only >5% of people in most first world countries commit any crimes, with 1% doing more than the restcombined. Also please tell that to feminists who say we need to teach men to not rape
[–]Szudar -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
'gender based discrimination'
generally
that's the problem. It's like NBA team hiring only black players. Business hires individuals, not "averages".
there will be few to none sexual harassment lawsuits
Same with normal company, open to hire both men and women. As you said, most people don't commit crimes
Also please tell that to feminists who say we need to teach men to not rape
Feminists often have completely fucked up ideas and that's why MRAs shouldn't be male versions of them
[–]Mackowatosc 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Gee, I wonder why should I hire a single woman? There's much that can go wrong, and no benefit over hiring a man.
Sincerelly, company owner.
why should I hire a single woman?
You should hire best candidate without caring about gender of this person. Not hiring women under any circumstances, because of paranoia she will falsely accuse you of sexual misconduct is some mgtow/incel shit. You are spending too much time online if you look at world like that, my friend.
[–]Mackowatosc 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not hiring women under any circumstances, because of paranoia she will falsely accuse you of sexual misconduct is some mgtow/incel shit.
LOL. Thats not the point. The point is, there's a very high chance of her going - where i live - for up to 2-3 years of paid baby leave, locking the spot in the mean time. Which means, I have to pay her fucking money for doing nothing, AND my company earns less, AND I have to find someone at the company to cover for her (And pay them more for that). Even IF she ever comes back (which is not really guaranteed), I can expect her to be off work half the time "because teh baaaaaby", AND having employees pissed off because they have to still cover for her work that she did not provide.
SO, how is it a gain for me, and not a loss? Im not exactly hiring an employee for a risk and loss. And if her baby is something private, well guess again...its not when it comes to paying, apparently. You really dont see a problem here?
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He isn't misogynistic, he is just paranoid.
[–]notacrackheadofficer 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is it hate, or phobia? It's both, mixed with a generous helping of genocide, terror, extermination, torture, you name it!
This guy I know was attacked by a pack of dogs. He says he's leery of dogs now, but we all know it couldn't be anything but systematic hatred that he creates in a sinister fashion out of a dogsogynistic evil lurking within him.
[–]PloopyGod84 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I may be dyslexic, where did it say that OC will not hire a single woman?
[–]KnightofNarg 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"I will not be hiring a single woman" comment is highly upvoted on this subreddit
There are literally female run businesses that don't hire men, turnabout is fair play.
[–]Szudar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If it's wrong, it's not fair play. Same with female serial killer killing men, existence of male serial killers that are killing women isn't an excuse.
Business that not hire women/men as a rule is totally shitty idea. Nothing wrong if business don't have any male or female employees because of different, reasonable reasons.
[–]jamesthewise 61 points62 points63 points 6 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
That's fucked up. I'm planning on starting my own business here soon. Still working out details/plans and trying to do some other stuff in the mean time to be able to at least cut down to a PT job.
Alls I know is when/if I get my business going...
I will not be hiring a single woman. There will have to be some serious law changes for me to do that. I'll stay small enough AA and shit doesn't matter if need be.
Jesus Christ. Just hire a Suicide Bomber. They'll take you out quicker than the slow ticking time bomb of 21st century "professional" women.
[–]Deathstrike300022 points 6 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
Don't make it obvious that women aren't being hired. Have like one of them at the front desk.
[–]CargoShorts88 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The conspiracy theorist in me says that this is what explains much of the glass ceiling. Women MUST be included in the workplace to avoid major lawsuits; okay, so let's pack them off into HR where they can't do too much damage and leave them there.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think that in HR is were they can do the most damage.
Have already done.. Many a good worker has been omitted by shitty HR policies and the position remains unfilled to this day.
[–]theoracleofosiris 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Make it a cute one just to piss of the old hag feminist screechers
[–]venetian_scamer 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have a better idea: Hire women, but make sure they aren't 21- 35, Extremely ambitious, left leaning, and or spiteful. You know. A middle ground.
[–]notacrackheadofficer 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hire native American men who are veterans and make it clear to the public that that's what you're doing. Maybe they might think you aren't extreme alt right for doing that. Maybe not.
[–]Kitsunemitsu 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Native American men are so often treated shittily, it would be nice to see someone give them a hand.
[–]KnightofNarg -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So you'll only be hiring married women?
[–]Mackowatosc 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Married = possible baby leave. Not exactly good for the company.
[–]wwstewart 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
*Female = possible baby leave
[+]Szudar -18 points-17 points-16 points 6 years ago* (14 children) | Copy Link
I will not be hiring a single woman
WTF? That's ridiculously paranoid. It's pathethic anti-female posts like that are upvoted on this sub.
What's next guys who upvoted this shit? Not hiring any black people?
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Black people dont falsely accuse you.
[–]Szudar -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
A lot of women don't falsely accuse you anyway. And it's not like Black men can't do anything malicious toward boss. Same with white men, gays or whatever.
Collective responsibility is completely bullshit, upvoting shit like /u/jamesthewise comment shows that nowadays, average MRA is on the same low level as average SJW feminist.
A lot of women have the potential.And he didnt say he is going to killallwomen he meant that he is afraid of them.
[–]jamesthewise 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Hey sorry I'm not even an MRA. Farther extreme of the spectrum. MGTOW myself. Avoid women at all costs as it is after the last one left me ruined. Juice ain't worth the squeeze. But yea Don't let me represent MRAs. I'm far more extreme. Just comment on your sub on occasion. Definitely not an MRA.
I'd advocate all young men ignore women and focus solely on their own development even if to the detriment of population numbers.
An hour of listening to Jim Rohn or Tony Robbins while worried about my own goals is/was worth far more than 8 years of chasing pussy in anyway.
I'm just here for the father's rights stuff mostly as a lack of father's rights lead to me being raised by a crack head single mother useless cum bucket.
[–]Szudar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
Even if your phobia was ignited by real life events, its still a phobia. Good therapist should help you.
[–]jamesthewise 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'm not afraid of women at all. Or their potential. To me they're generally just children now a days. I wouldn't hire a child. So I won't hire a woman. I've met a few women in my life who can compete with men and we talk occasionally. Well, actually my best friend is a woman I've known since 8th grade lmao.
But she is open and honest, at least with me, about her hyper gamy, being a slut, being in school to find a 'sucker' and the rest. So I can befriend her as she is at least honest about her female nature.
Granted, she didn't open up about it until I started ignoring her, told her why and she the knew the jig was up trying to keep me as a beta orbiter.
[–]Szudar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm not afraid of women at all.
Reading your comments shows you're afraid of them, you just call it differently, probably to feel better about yourself.
I'd advocate all young men ignore women and focus solely on their own development
Really bad advice for heterosexual male.
[–]jamesthewise 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Whatever makes you feel better about yourself man. Denying someone's lived experience and feelings does nothing to change them. Just to make your smug self feel better.
Lmk how your farts smell.
[–]Szudar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Denying someone's lived experience
I'm not denying your experiences, it's just what you're doing with your life seems to be broken and your experiences aren't excuse for that.
Look everyone! An unfamiliar user thinks this is a racist sub again. How misguided can you be?
[–]Szudar -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not racist sub. It's not like not hiring women is better than not hiring black people though.
[–]DragonTigerBoss 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Linus Torvalds did it.
[–][deleted] 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
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[–]shit-zen-giggles 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'd simply go with reporting it to reddit (not the mods of the sub, but reddit itself). The have the IP and can identify the poster and inform local authorities
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]shit-zen-giggles 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
fair enough...
[–]that-guy-with-art 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This was deleted, what did it say? The top comment on this thread i mean.
[–]shit-zen-giggles 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
screenshot of a reddit post from "trueoffmychest" in which a woman said she'd go false accusing her boss now, because he passed her over for a promotion the second time. Commenters in the screenshot consistently told her what terrible behaviour this is.
[–]that-guy-with-art 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh ok, I swear this was on a different post, a different comment. Either I'm high or reddit is. Thanks for the answer, but I could see the post.
[–]deepcut619 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Why censor the users name? This will be great evidence if you can find the case.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Employers and authorities can backtrack the post in some way. It would’ve been better if OP were to have uncensored the name
[–]Egalitarianwhistle 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
#metoo is a power grab. Can anyone name a single #metoo accusation that was true and wouldnt have been better served going to the police?
[–]NAWALT_VADER 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am at the point of believing that the vast majority of these #MeToo things are exactly like this.
[–]phracea 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even if this is a joke... it's not funny.
[–]CaramelMonkey12 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LINK?
[–]Bestprofilename 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It looks so ridiculous is seems like a joke. If it's not a joke this surely makes one less confident hiring a woman
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ha! The bizarre part is that she posted about it on reddit.
The creeps who do this usually keep it to themselves.
[–]robcars 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I see it all the time. I also see a people playing the race card when it's not the reason. Someone who has College gets the promotion and someone who does not get College does not get the promotion and then they claim race.
[–]Jackson2615 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is the usual approach taken by underperforming women in the workplace.
[–]1LegendaryWombat 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"I'm mad, instead of doing something about it, like work harder or longer, otherwise prove myself for said promotion(or find out what might help), I'm just going to be insane and accuse an innocent man of a crime because I am both petty and nuts."
[–]prequellord420 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What the actual fuck is this
[–]liztu_june 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think there a good reason shebwasnt promoted.
[–]Omni_Xeno 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sauce
[–]goodmod[M] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Although this is a good post, the title does not say enough about its subject. This forces people to click and read before they can decide whether they are interested. It also makes searching impossible.
If everyone did this, the subreddit would become unusable. Moreover, it means that your post will fail to reach some readers because they won't know what it's about.
So please don't do it in future. Take the time to describe your link, and save the time of hundreds of other people.
When making a title, it's best to assume the reader doesn't know what you're talking about - but don't go overboard with every detail. Then check if there are any words you can cut out without losing any important information.
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troll
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