To sum things up

2012-08-18T22:18:54+00:00

Custody and False Accusations of Domestic Violence or Rape.

In any marriage if the wife walks into a wall and claims DV or just alleges rape after consensual sex she will get full custody, the house and large child support. She is likely to get alimony. The man might get jail time. You cannot trust a woman who just divorced you not to abuse this unbelievable power. Marriage is completely unsafe for men.

imbecile · 2012-08-18T21:22:43+00:00

First of all, not all issues of interest here are a result of feminism and feminist policies. It's a considerable subset, but it's not all "their fault".

For example, that men must perform and provide for a woman and are disposable work horses and cannon fodder for the rich and powerful has been true throughout written history. That's not something you could blame on feminism.
Feminism has just made the "perform and provide for any woman who says so" part legally binding for life while almost completely getting rid of their end of the bargain.

The reason why I read and post here occasionally is mainly, because when it comes to gender a lot of the hypocrisy, intellectual dishonesty, mental disconnect and hate I see and read on the net and in the mainstream media just makes me cringe and facepalm, like such things do always, no matter in which context they happen.

So this is it. All this "Women are good, special, intelligent and plain better than men, who are violent primitive bumbling idiots who oppress them. But everyone is absolutely equal." narrative, that you see everywhere, must disappear. And more importantly, all those laws and policies that treat men and women differently, any law or policy that cares about who you are, and not about what you do, must disappear.

eggilicious · 2012-08-18T22:02:12+00:00

1) Disregard for men and male issues in the public sphere 2) Gender role policing 3) The abuse of men in family and divorce courts

drinkthebleach · 2012-08-18T20:56:35+00:00

The issues differ for everyone based on experiences, that's for sure. I'd put father's custody rights, male rape victims not having assistance or being believed, the stigma of being assumed to be a pedophile at the forefront of mine, but that's just because I've dealt with those.

borderlinebadger · 2012-08-19T01:08:09+00:00

Equality under the law. The law should be gender neutral in policy and practice as much as possible.
Having a voice in the gender conversation.
Better statistics/research in gender matters. Should be far more rigorous and objective.

cammycam · 2012-08-19T01:29:21+00:00

I'm a gay guy. Some of the guys I personally know are clearly MGTOW's, even though they haven't heard that term. In my twenties I hated that I was single and straight people were getting married and having 2.6 kids and the rest of it. Now, as I'm in my thirties I still haven't lived up to the stereotypical bachelor lifestyle and I've had the same men I used to be envious of show up on my doorstep because I had a crush on them a decade ago, and they envy my freedom after their wife / gf left them. This isn't just an issue for the 50 year old in a movie that wakes up and realizes that everything they've worked for has been lost. Some of the issues are MR's, and some of them are people's rights. Income inequality is a people's rights issue, but family courts are criminalizing poverty for men.

A guy I wanted to settle down and buy a house with is on the run from child support for a child he conceived with an older adult woman while he was 15. Every once in a while, she'll throw in a molestation accusation for good measure, when there's been no contact.

Torquie · 2012-08-18T23:42:16+00:00

Looks like a troll.

affirmative action causes for white men.

Affirmative action puts women first, so all men are discriminated against by it.

rightsbot · 2012-08-18T20:48:18+00:00

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SilencingNarrative · 2012-08-19T03:26:12+00:00

weakening of the rights of the accused in rape cases, circumcision, family court anti male bias.

CptSeaCow · 2012-08-19T05:24:29+00:00

Genital Mutilation, False Rape Accusations, and DV overhaul.

2012-08-19T12:39:51+00:00

As a SAHD father's rights is my top concern. Close second is the perception all men are X.. pedophiles, rapists, abusers, dangerous and so on. And lastly, education. My son should have the same access, support and encouragement my daughters get.

oneiorosgrip · 2012-08-19T13:02:25+00:00

I have only one: Under the pretense of striving for nothing more than equality, feminist advocacy has done everything to men - and I do mean everything - over which the movement's proponents have been claiming injustice toward women for decades. In the pursuit of power, feminist advocacy has perpetrated the very same ideological crimes which for they've so widely and vehemently condemned men, treating them as second-class citizens whose humanity need not be recognized and whose basic, fundamental rights need not be equally protected. In doing so, they've convinced me that domination and enslavement of the male half of humanity by the female half is the true goal of mainstream feminism, rather than anything to do with human rights or human equality.

JockeVXO · 2012-08-19T00:14:58+00:00

Like Sigil1, the

the problems that affirmative action causes for white men.

line causes me some concern. Arguably, this is the one area where white men can be said to be more discriminated against than black men. But the fact that s/he only listed a few examples and that was one of them makes me suspicious nonetheless.

C0CKPUNCHER · 2012-08-19T06:04:53+00:00

Why in every instance are you saying 'white men'. Looks like a troll job.

Victims are victims, victimizers are victimizers. All mensrights does is return to this. Unfortunately current society attempts to corrupt victimhood so that a rich female lawyer is more of a victim than a homeless alcoholic man. That 'women are the real victims of war'. That a mother who kicks out the father and raises depressed children is called a victim rather than a victimizer.

Title	To sum things up
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Date	August 18, 2012 8:46 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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