Toxic Femininity

TheMythof_Feminism · 2018-08-19T04:31:43+00:00

No.

There is no such thing as "toxic femininity", nor is there "toxic masculinity". The word "toxic" doesn't even make sense in that context.... maybe caustic, but not toxic.

TheShShCreature · 2018-08-19T01:45:43+00:00

I think we shouldn’t start defining or pushing a “toxic femininity” thing. What I think we should do is push against the retarded notion of this allusive, all-invasive ‘toxic masculinity’ that we keep getting jammed down out throats by celebrities and the media.

HectorsMascara · 2018-08-19T02:09:05+00:00

Passive-aggressive emotional manipulation.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2018-08-19T12:10:41+00:00

Feigned victimhood and helplessness. Emotional manipulation (fake tears and the like). False accusations. Spreading malicious gossip. The notion that children are hers so it's fine to take them away from the father, use them to hurt him, get the final say in all parenting, etc. The casual assumption that women always know best (including female initiation and all that). The idea that women can hit men if she's upset but he must never hit back. Etc etc etc.

BramblEdge · 2018-08-19T13:56:01+00:00

Lying, playing the victim, manipulating, expecting special treatment, vanity, not taking responsibility for their actions, relying on double standards (especially regarding violence, be it physical, sexual or emotional) and a general sense of entitlement.

These are some aspects of femininity which are promoted to women and girls that I consider to be troublesome, mainly for men and society, but some also indirectly hurt women themselves in the long run.

Littleknight · 2018-08-19T01:10:53+00:00

Femsplaining - explaining feminist ideals and acting confused when you dont step in line, then follow it up by calling you a misogynist.

Fuckoff555 · 2018-08-19T00:56:49+00:00

Entitled women who expect special treatment because of their gender. And feminism because it helped those women to get exactly what they wanted and to continue to do so without any consequences.

FemaleIsEasyMode · 2018-08-19T01:07:08+00:00

Feeling entitled to demand something without giving equal trade. Nagging is toxic femininity. So is complaining and crying to get what they want or when being called on their behaviour. Double standards that they adhere to.

Kuato2012 · 2018-08-19T04:13:49+00:00

It's telling that the term for men is "toxic masculinity" (which implies personal agency... The toxicity is exuded from within), while the roughly analogous term for women is "internalized misogyny" (which implies that the woman is a victim of toxicity from an external locus).

They're not perfectly analogous terms, but pretty similar. Each implies that the person has adopted attitudes and behaviors about gender that damage themselves and others around them. But women get a pass, and men are left on the hook, as usual. Feminism: totally sticking up for us once again.

I imagine the whole dialogue about gender issues would look a little different if we talked about toxic femininity and internalized misandry.

PeruvianRug · 2018-08-19T18:20:25+00:00

At a social level I'd describe it as the practice of sacrificing structure & function for satisfying emotional sensitivities.

It's setting the bar for social expectation not within the ranks of your high achievers, but alongside your weakest and least effective members.

Toxic femininity coddles, nurtures and protects the vulnerable to the point where the vulnerable are kept in a constant state of need. They are not properly tested, blooded or challenged as toxic femininity would consider such trials too 'horrific'.

I like to use the example of training a dog to outline how I feel about the toxic, or shadow, sides of masculinity and femininity.

Toxic masculinity beats, yells at and neglects the dog. It is ruthless and loveless. The only interest is in maximizing the dog's obedience with no due consideration for the animal itself. As a result, the dog becomes aggressive, violent, perpetually anxious and outright miserable. The only upside is that it is well positioned to protect itself from outside physical forces. From the owner's perspective, the dog is also very well disciplined.

Toxic femininity coddles, nurtures and protects the dog from all discomforts. If the dog seems even a bit tired she will carry it. If it seems the slightest bit discomforted it will be removed from the circumstances. It is given all the food he wants, all the affection he craves and shown unending love. As a result, the dog can be quite happy. However, it is entirely dependent upon the owner and couldn't defend itself from mouse. It is also functionally useless and has no discipline. It would die in the wild.

Both are equally harmful to a society. One breeds misery, violence and hatred while the other fosters weakness, ineptitude and complacency. Masculinity gets a harder rap because it's much more abrupt and obvious. People are quick to react to hostility, but are less likely to question actions that have 'good intentions'.

aussietoads · 2018-08-19T03:32:08+00:00

Feminism.

TheImpossible1 · 2018-08-19T02:32:17+00:00

Everything women do is toxic.

Just have to look at what happens when they raise kids alone.

MGTOW.

Title	Toxic Femininity
Author	Littleknight
Upvotes	17
Comments	89
Date	August 18, 2018 11:49 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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