Universities should target working-class white boys, minister says | Education | guardian.co.uk

AloysiusC · 2013-01-03T14:10:30+00:00

There should be no affirmative action for men for the same reason why there shouldn't be any for women. It's not the solution to force some sort of parity. Ask the difficult questions instead.

DavidByron · 2013-01-03T15:20:33+00:00

Note that all of the statistics used to show men are going to college less apply to all male candidates, and not just "working class men". So why does the class get thrown in? Class is certainly a big deal and the fact that the university courses are subsidised (used to be entirely free) makes money less of an issue and generally it's very much already on the radar as an issue in the UK and has been for a long time.

Feminists and people influenced by feminism do this all the time. They feel they have to deny at all costs that men are victims of anything, that men are underprivileged at anything. So you just cannot say men are behind at college. Say black men are behind or say working class men are behind but you can't say that men are behind even when that is exactly what the data you are relying on is saying.

PartTimeBadman · 2013-01-03T14:45:44+00:00

Universities shouldn't target anyone. A decade of Labour government changed university from higher education for the best and brightest to an excuse not to work for a few years once you hit 18. No wonder they're so open to exploitation when all the mouth-breathing morons who can't do basic maths can get a subsidised place on a three year course in Arse-Scratching at Shitfest University without even needing to pass an entrance exam.

Canadian4Paul · 2013-01-03T16:10:14+00:00

How about every institution stops giving any support to anybody on the basis of race or gender, and bases its decisions on a person's merits, as the constitutions of nearly every Western country dictates they should. Is this concept really so hard for people to grasp?

Spaceball9 · 2013-01-03T16:18:10+00:00

Isn't it ironic that America was seemingly on top of the world from 1950-2000, and now that white men are no longer the majority of college students, the country seems to be going downhill economically?

Coinin · 2013-01-03T15:36:55+00:00

Men, yes. But why specifically whites? Is there an actual gap evolving of white people going to college? Surely any such scholarship should be non specific to race.

SarahC · 2013-01-03T16:36:08+00:00

Have you ever heard a college girl complain "Where are all the good men"?? Well 2 out of every 3 college degrees are now given to females. You add this to the fact that out of the 1 in 3 college males, a growing population of them are gay.

So my guesstimate is there are now around 4 women for every 1 hetero-male.

So when college girls cry out "where are all the good men, where are the providers"?? One can say, Honey you aint finding no providers here, you gotta go a few blocks down to the construction site.

luxury_banana · 2013-01-03T15:48:30+00:00

The problems I have with affirmative action are of course that it creates animosity and the question of "When does it end?" When do you decide that it's "enough" and that the supposedly aggrieved group(s) have had enough helping and you can ostensibly "go back to a meritocracy." And when you try to do so, what is to say that the groups explicitly discriminated against by affirmative action for generations as of right now will not have legitimate claim to say they now deserve affirmative action because of codified discrimination against them?

ThePigman · 2013-01-03T23:19:08+00:00

Good idea. Till all other forms of affirmative action are done away with, poor white boys should be included.

weaselbeef · 2013-01-03T20:32:06+00:00

Not all white males are being purged from American academia, just the hetero-centric men.

2013-01-05T15:58:52+00:00

The white middle class community with a father in the home, is over-represented in Higher education in the UK.

Title	Universities should target working-class white boys, minister says \| Education \| guardian.co.uk
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Date	January 3, 2013 12:27 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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