I had a thought about this after looking at my pay stub the other day. Everyone here agrees that it's an earnings gap and not a wage gap, meaning men tend to earn more. The consensus here being that men tend to work in fields requiring more technical knowledge of their job or that there's more risk to one's life in doing it.
Feminists want to claim that they don't get paid what they actually earn, so what if we as a society start itemizing what it is we're getting paid for. A soldier goes off to the sand pit and earns hazardous duty pay, and family separation pay and such and all of this is itemized on their pay stubs. Everyone under the same rank gets the same base salary plus all their various entitlements.
Why not, for say that job using a backhoe on the side of a cliff for $100/hr that's floating around on here, we just itemize it out, $15 for base pay, $10 for being away from family for days on end, $45 for risk of life, $20 for knowledge of using a backhoe, $10 for safety regulation training or something.
Something like this would take maybe a little of the air out of the feminist wage gap blimp and hopefully bring it closer to the relative sanity of the rest of us.
[+]falconic [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
Honestly I think one of the biggest weirdest things about compensation (in America at least, donno if this is true elsewhere) is the taboo about talking about your compensation with your coworkers. It is to the detriment of pretty much everybody. If we were more willing to talk about such things, women would see that in many cases they actually earn the same or more than their male coworkers. It would also help when negotiating time rolls around - for example at one job I was a "senior", and I had a "junior" working for me, who had a higher salary than me. Talking about compensation just helps you figure out where you're at and whether maybe you're just not performing well, or maybe if it's time to renegotiate or look for a job that will compensate you better.
I've even had people tell me that I could be fired for talking about my compensation with coworkers, so I imagine that's happened to others as well. In case anyone reads this and encounters this situation: the correct response is "You may want to familiarize yourself with the national labor relations act and stop telling people that."
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[+]falconic [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
There are certainly cases where this is true and cases where it is less true. It's especially true towards the beginning of your career when it's beneficial to climb the ladder as fast as possible. Later on, moving up gets harder (but if you did it early in your career you've had higher pay for longer and therefore more time to save up.)
I already make much more than I need, but I could make more money at another company most of the opportunities I've seen would be doing less interesting work so it's a trade-off. If someone comes along and offers me more to do the sorts of things I want to do, you can bet I'll be open to it. (Actually I'm heading out to an interview in like 10 minutes...)
The one other problem is that if you switch jobs every year for too long, it's a bit of a red flag when interviewing for the next one. I've definitely been asked why I moved around so much, but in my case it was easy to explain: I spent most of my career at start-ups, most of which fail. They were all great fun but most of them didn't pay out, couple did okay.
Start ups are a great way to learn your value - generally there are only a couple people and the whole company can ride on your ability to deliver. It's stressful but exciting. Bigger companies are nice because you can take a vacation and be relatively certain the company will still be around when you get back :P
Anyway, yes. I agree, in a rambling sort of way. The biggest thing regardless of sex is to make sure you're doing what's best - always be learning and improving. don't stagnate. Use the information available to you and take the opportunities you can, but being happy and engaged is worth more than a few extra dollars at a job you dread having to drag yourself into every morning in the long run.
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