What logical fallacy is this?

BlockBadger · 2022-11-25T01:27:01+00:00

Sorry, second try I’m tired. It’s invincible ignorance fallacy.

Blocka10 · 2022-11-25T07:21:53+00:00

People who believe in conspiracies are very much like that and they’ll search for all the confirmation bias and ignore statistics and scientific studies. They want to believe what they believe is right and don’t want to be wrong.

Maxwell1138 · 2022-11-25T07:13:14+00:00

This is the Genetic Logical Fallacy, where you judge something to be good/true or bad/false based on where that information came from and not the information itself. But it sounds like they would use whatever fallacy they could to refuse to contemplate your side of the discussion. I call this the Horse to Water Fallacy, where you can bring knowledge and information to a person, but you can't get them to accept it no matter how its presented.

ThatRandomCrit · 2022-11-25T00:41:58+00:00

No… they are stubborn. However, while maybe they disagree with you now, it is possible you instilled a bit of doubt into them which can manifest later with time. But idk, give them the opportunity to find their own research and stats beforehand as realistically they won’t be able to have the fairest argument and will resort to anecdotal evidence as that’s their only evidence they have at the moment.

psycicfrndfrdbr · 2022-11-25T02:10:30+00:00

Stick head in sand and put finger in ears? I don’t know this is just being willfully ignorant and not willing to have any sort of good faith argument with no alternative or significant evidence the statistics and studies are biased or somehow not trustworthy. You can’t argue with people like this. It’s not that you can’t try just your not going to get anywhere. They’ve already made up their mind

shit-zen-giggles · 2022-11-25T02:08:21+00:00

Also, any tips how to help them see the truth?

watch the following video with them

MEETING THE ENEMY A feminist comes to terms with the Men's Rights movement | Cassie Jaye

Input_output_error · 2022-11-25T07:27:58+00:00

It is projecting, they're simply projecting their own bad behaviour onto you.

Reddit1984Censorship · 2022-11-25T19:03:34+00:00

You can provide the red pill, but they have to take it by their own will.

silent_boo · 2022-11-25T21:18:34+00:00

One way you can snap someone out of this kind of thinking is to point out that their premise leads to the most absurd conclusions.

For example, if you say that women have always been oppressed by men, then you're essentially saying that historically women have been so weak and lacking in character that they couldn't even sway their own sons and grandsons in favour of women. They were always the ones responsible for taking care of kids and yet they failed to instill in them things that seem so self evident to you?

Take their claim and run with it. It will reset them when it contradicts their beliefs.

Angryasfk · 2022-11-25T03:40:15+00:00

They constantly do this. They offer plenty of assertions without any actual studies to back them up, and then demand “evidence” when any of their cherished views of perpetual female victimhood were challenged.

But if you do, this is “invalidating their ‘lived experience’”.

It’s all about perception and personal viewpoints and “feelz” with these people.

Women commonly just assume that “it’s a man’s world”, largely because most of the “leaders” are men, and have their own personal experience of not being treated as they feel they should by some man, and so take that as a given.

This is the soil from which contemporary feminism grows.

g1455ofwater · 2022-11-25T00:59:27+00:00

Common belief fallacy?

JustaTcup · 2022-11-25T02:50:18+00:00

It's almost impossible to get cult members to listen. The other problem is a lot of people, maybe even most people, rather live in a good world that's a lie than a bad world filled with truth so they will fight you to stay in their fantasyland that's "nicer".

Be careful who you call "friends".

Drakethepirate · 2022-11-25T02:15:47+00:00

Slothful induction fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slothful_induction#:~:text=Slothful%20induction%2C%20also%20called%20appeal,despite%20strong%20evidence%20for%20inference.

Title	What logical fallacy is this?
Author	ThatRandomCrit
Upvotes	49
Comments	36
Date	November 25, 2022 12:18 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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