Why Do The Left Not Care About Men’s Problems? - George TheTinMen | Modern Wisdom 658

KrazyJazz · 2023-09-28T10:47:14+00:00

One of the top comment for the video perfectly encapsulates what is going on nowadays:

I'm a men's issues advocate, and I've lost count of how many people just get up and leave, and never speak to you again, when you decide to show empathy for men in conversation. It's the main reason I will keep doing it. If I end up alone, at least I end up alone standing tall with an open and good heart for every living creature.

g1455ofwater · 2023-09-28T09:14:23+00:00

He mentioned this study showing men do reach out for help before they commit suicide.

Almost all (91%) middle-aged men had been in contact with at least one frontline service or agency, most often primary care services (82%). Half had been in contact with mental health services, 30% with the justice system.

It is therefore too simplistic to say men do not seek help. We should focus on how services can improve the recognition of risk and respond to men’s needs, and how services might work better together.

https://sites.manchester.ac.uk/ncish/reports/suicide-by-middle-aged-men/

Mitschu · 2023-09-28T08:09:33+00:00

Just my stream of consciousness thoughts on the matter: Because there's no profit in it.

This is always going to be the issue going forward until one of three things change:

A) "Emotionally investing" in men becomes a trend, and companies start chasing that trend. This is the most likely one, and we've seen a few stabs at it, but the problem is that it's so alien to most, that the best attempts we've seen so far are Gillette's "Men Be Better" tonedeaf bullshit and the occasional veteran-supporting company which then quickly goes out of their way to point out that women are abused veterans too. There's no societal impetus to care about men, so until it becomes the latest TikTok fad that lasts more than a few days, nobody who wants validation and credit (oftentimes in the form of government kickbacks) will give a flying rip about men.

B) Men become more valuable. Unfortunately, we don't control spending in any of the arenas that matter. Typically, we don't pursue high-status trends and fashions (cars notwithstanding, and even then, when you think about how many current year family sedans and minivans are sold each year, and how precisely, let me run the math, uh, zero men pick those as their luxury car of first choice), we don't develop brand loyalty to "premium" products we feel we deserve (hell, I'm still using the cheap $1 replaceable blade razor I bought fifteen years ago, and if it ever breaks on me, good thing it was a two pack, I STILL have the spare handle), we don't spend nearly as much on expensive non-vital medical treatments and care (my sister has a doctor she sees at least once every two weeks to "monitor" a simple genetic condition I share. Meanwhile, I'm in the same income bracket, age range, risk group, etc. and yet I haven't been to a proper doctor since I got a physical in high school a handful of decades ago)... for lack of a better way to say it, we don't splurge on fleeting bullhock. Men earn most of the money, but it's the women in our lives who control / spend it all, and groups chase after them exclusively to get a slice of the pie.

C) We make it unprofitable to ignore men. A couple of wars (weapons hot or just in the courthouses, both would work) would fix all this shit, at least force people to start living up to their own ideologies and claimed beliefs, not just when it is a convenient fib to tell. Unfortunately, men simply don't want to do this. It feels intuitively counterproductive to say "To make people have compassion for men, we need to ruthlessly and violently crush anyone who doesn't." And yet, lawfare and pseudo-terrorism have been the left's bread and butter for well over a century, and people cheer them for it. Wouldn't work for us. Wouldn't work for men. Alas, you can't tell an underdog story where the poor abused mutt has bigger teeth and a scarier growl and goes around effortlessly mauling the shit out of the chihuahuas that bullied and tormented him.

walterwallcarpet · 2023-09-28T09:29:39+00:00

A comprehensive, 170 page answer to this question is available in 'Men Aren't The Problem' by Dirk Lerxst.

slipkid556 · 2023-09-28T12:53:48+00:00

Why does EVERY youtube video have to have that stupid face?

Educational_Bet_6606 · 2023-09-28T17:53:01+00:00

We are seen as the bedrock of society, and are taken for granted.

Yet, a house divided can not stand, so the modern world will go into judgment for this scene.

KPplumbingBob · 2023-09-28T14:29:58+00:00

Right wing has "stood up for men"? When the fuck did that happen?

g1455ofwater · 2023-09-28T21:15:56+00:00

It's not just that they don't care, they aggressively persecute men.

George seems quite smart and very educated on men's issues but what I can't understand about him is why Andrew Tate upsets him so much but when dealing with people that say they hate men he says he tries to look at their perspective and how they got to that point. Like why are people that hate men granted that benefit but Andrew Tate isn't, because if it's a matter of who is worse leftists and feminist have easily been as bad as Andrew Tate in their behavior. That's one weakness that some of the more eloquent people that stand up for men have is they give a free pass to those that abuse men. The door is always open for them, forgiveness is always granted for them, punishment is always less severe for them. To me that way of doing things sends the message that abusing men is less bad than abusing women. Maybe it's just one of those trade offs where if you are good in one area some baggage comes along with it. He mention at the start about men's rights having a brand identity crisis with it being loud and in your face but those are the people that aren't scared to call out the leftist or feminists and acknowledge how bad their behavior is and call for punishment. The reason things progressed this far with feminist domination is those leftist were and still are too scared to call out the feminist supremacy. Also the loud and aggressive ones are the ones that put in the time and courage to stand up to feminist supremacy and helped popularize the men's rights movement.

The vast majority of the video is fantastic but that's just a pet peeve of mine. If you want to be a forgiver of sins cool, just remember to forgive men also.

papo4ever · 2023-09-29T09:47:17+00:00

Most of the voters of the left are women, and this difference is getting bigger.

The political Left/Right divide has become a division between men and women.

Title	Why Do The Left Not Care About Men’s Problems? - George TheTinMen \| Modern Wisdom 658
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