Why is shaming men into submission acceptable?

Autam · 2023-12-31T04:11:21+00:00

Imagine if you told a woman she wasn’t tight enough and she alone wasn’t enough for you sexually. Like when it comes to women if you ever say anything negative about them sexually you’re a dick, but women can hate on guys dick all they want.

It’s always about what the woman wants sexually. All I see constantly are posts/ articles about men needing to learn how to please woman cause they’re the most important but never women need to consider what men like too

Appropriate-Use3466 · 2023-12-31T03:37:56+00:00

Because there is the idea that sex is something done by the man for the woman. For example the lenght of time of the intercourse, "how long do you last?". It's not "how long you LIKE to last", because it's not about male pleasure, but how the intercourse has to be long enough to please the girl, not the guy. So the only good answer is "I last until I feel satisfied". We should talk about male sexual satisfaction, while we talk about sex, and not about other "measures", because to "measure" male sexual acts means to say that they are not for the man's pleasure but for the woman's. So it's like saying that the man's body is for the woman's use and not for himself.

Moreover, if you feel unconfortable, say that this pressure seems sexual coercion/harrassment, and that you don't give your consent and that all sex without consent is rape. See how the reaction changes.

Sadly, if we reverse the genders it would be self evident that it's a form of pressure and therefore coercion. However, sadly society has a huge bias against men in these situations.

Moreover, if you feel that "your dick is not big enough", change your sexual habits.

Don't use it to please or "be enough" for your female partner. Change to oral sex. If you become more oral sex-centred, your dick is your dick alone and its only goal is to please YOU and not others. Therefore, avoid penetration with girls too focused on size. Focus on you receiving oral sex. Because this could change the idea about it. Not as a tool for other people to please themselves, but as a part of yourself and for you as a human being deserving pleasure for yourself first because that is a part of YOUR body and of YOU.

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2023-12-31T03:55:55+00:00

I think you should make this argument every time a woman shames you on this.

Vaudeville_Clown · 2023-12-31T09:52:43+00:00

Yeah.. almost! For the argument to cohesively hold, you have to compare only with toys that are used on you.

So, if she demands dildos and strap ons, she'd be a hypocrite if she wouldn't be tolerant of you using butt plugs or jacking with sleeves from time to time.

In a similar vein, a person who wants oral should not refuse to return the same back.

Other than that, there definitely is something here, but I don't know what to make of it. I've gotten the impression that feminists are fairly positive towards toys for men, and when they're not it's "don't listen to that lady, she's a sex negative terf".

But the bigger problem is women in general. The fact that so many are grossed out by toys for men, or any male sexual want which doesn't immediately gratify women, that's something only MRAs and other manosphere groups confront.

Feminists are also super light in their critique of women's rampant bi- and homophobia

DecrepitAbacus · 2023-12-31T11:18:11+00:00

Women have always tried to shame men to get what they want. Probably the starkest example would be the white feather but "come back carrying your shield on on it" has been around for thousands of years.

mhk23 · 2023-12-31T17:27:59+00:00

Misandry is socially acceptable, unfortunately. Shaming a man for his height and money is analogous to shaming a woman for her weight, age and/or lack of beauty. Which one is promoted?

YesYesYesVeryGood · 2023-12-31T19:50:18+00:00

In that case, the shaming of the man is a projection from the woman. It can stem from embarrassment, anger, insecurity, etc. from the abuser.

vrajaram · 2024-01-01T08:34:15+00:00

Misandry is normal, and the world is gynocentric.

Taohumor · 2024-01-01T13:24:14+00:00

Because as a man you are a worker drone, not a human being with rights and feelings. Now produce.

RalfMurphy · 2023-12-31T14:13:28+00:00

Sounds like women who watch too much porn.

aren3141 · 2023-12-31T12:36:21+00:00

Yes, women are told that all the time

Illustrious_Bus9486 · 2023-12-31T03:57:42+00:00

I wanted roast beef!

luminarium · 2023-12-31T18:48:03+00:00

It's acceptable because you don't punish the people who do it.

Title	Why is shaming men into submission acceptable?
Author	nokakimalak
Upvotes	166
Comments	38
Date	December 31, 2023 2:43 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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