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Why Johnny Depp's Case Could Be Turning Point For Male Domestic Abuse Survivors

Heavy_Grand2526

June 6, 2022
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https://www.yourtango.com/news/johnny-depp-turning-point-male-domestic-abuse-survivors
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Title Why Johnny Depp's Case Could Be Turning Point For Male Domestic Abuse Survivors
Author

Heavy_Grand2526

Upvotes 542
Comments 34
Date June 6, 2022 6:23 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/v5wd5x/why_johnny_depps_case_could_be_turning_point_for/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/why-johnny-depps-case-could-be-turning-point-for.1117058
https://theredarchive.com/post/1117058
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Comments

[–]Fearless-File-3625 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As long as we have duluth model and VAWA, all this is just cope.

[–]SecondEldenLord 82 points83 points84 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I think this is just temporary. I really don't think anything will change, I mean there are still people who support Amber Heard EVEN AFTER THE MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE AGAINST HER!

[–]Mystic_Submissive 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How delusional, but I heard that now 56% of Americans don't believe media news, it was 34% before that case.

And those who support her are retarded femcels just like her.

[–]xTheVyrusx 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The average American doesn’t have hundred of thousands or possibly millions to contribute to a any case to help them. The average person won’t have media attention unless it’s a murder trial or an insanely evil sexual assault case with hundreds of women involved. The only thing that matter is how you stack up against the biased legal system.

[–]John_Savage69 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I watched a lot of the Depp trial. I watched most of Rittenhouse. In both cases, what the media reported had absolutely zero relation to what the testimony/evidence was--in many cases, the exact opposite.

[–]Mystic_Submissive 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Media is a nightmare brainwasher.

[–]Ferbuggity 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There's always going to be stupid people, no way around it.

However, looking at the numbers of followers of Amber on sites likes this compared to those supporting her victim... my impression is that a far smaller percentage actually support Amber. 5k followers, vs 60 to 100k, is what I've seen. Most media outside of diehard woo publications like The Guardian and WashPo is supportive of Johnny. So maybe yeah, maybe things will change or its at least a good start.

[–]SecondEldenLord 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Love your optimism. To be fair I don't think we ever had such a big domestic violence case where the woman was the abuser tand the man was a victim for..... maybe ever? This case was certainly a lesson for many many people, the question is will people learn from it?

[–]Loser-Gang 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The hashtags for Depp were at billions while Heard's were only a few million, though. It's a minority that supports her, but I hope they won't be a loud minority. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[+]HighestTierMaslow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think they both suck.

[–]SecondEldenLord 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes, I also hate people who are victims of domestic violence, visits sick children at the hospital and is kind to his fans. Yeah, Johnny Depp sure sucks.

[–]odysseytree 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not. An average man can never afford victory. For avarage men, prevention is the only option.

[–]Noodles01013 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It probably won’t tho

[–]notmyotherone 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Spoiler alert: it won't change anything.

People fucking hate men, that's just where we're at as a society.

[–]DoomedCulture 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

British press are still declaring JD as an abuser and really hounding him due to the verdict in the UK case against The Sun. Feels so bizarre and hugely out of touch after we all saw the US trial. British journalism has really gone south

[–]-Soggy-Potato- 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not really, generally it’s quite positive

There’s just a little blowback now because more awareness is being brought to possible issues of the cases verdict or how most likely they were both abusive and in a toxic relationship

There’s also the hypocrisy of people not caring about male victims until the Depp case showing how shallow all of it really is

[–]Ferbuggity 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great article.

One thing I have noticed on youtube (where most of my soc media time has been spent during this trial) is an outpouring of men of all ages and circumstances making posts about domestic abuse they've suffered, including the sons of female abusers as well as partners. And they get a lot of support from others, which is great. Many preface their post with "I have never told anyone.." so if nothing else, this case just might have given men some encouragement to voice their experience and to not feel so all alone with it.

[–]PalpitationOk7640 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most feminists believe her. Good thing nobody takes them seriously anyway

[–]FastidiousFalcon 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Great, hell with metoo#, good riddance!!

[–]TheNerdWonder 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Sadly, it's still here and will be unless we pass laws that deter and penalize false accusers. That and encourage more lawsuits against false accusers and the organizations who might support them and peddle defamatory crap. Johnny showed us it is doable and that these cases are winnable.

The MRM needs to use full on lawfare to break the back of the feminist movement and its backers. It's the only we can advance our rights and positions and then preserve them within our society. This includes our rights to be seen as victims if we are abused by an intimate partner, including partners who are women.

[–]feminismlostabortion 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This so much. I wish I had the resources I do now when I was younger. Lawsuits are the only way to fight feminism and its sexism.

[–]TheNerdWonder 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And I won't pretend to know everything about the history of the MRM or every current strategy, but from what I've seen I'm surprised that I so far haven't seen it being employed widespread. I mean, you see it occasionally with Title IX lawsuits but those are 1 or 2 individuals and not any big men's rights law firm or men's rights activist organizations which is more of what I think we need. We can't do it with groups like the ACLU though. It's an organization that has shown it can't be trusted to do the right thing and they ended up getting conned out of money by Heard. At least, they can't be trusted on victim's rights/gender issues anyways. Other areas, they are so much more objective.

[+]HighestTierMaslow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Except the majority of people involved in MeToo aren't lying...

[–]PalpitationOk7640 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish I could give this 1000 likes

[+]HighestTierMaslow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You clearly are a woman hater. anybody male or female who has been abused should say something without fear. You only want a Male MeToo. 😆

[–]TheIncapableAct 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My ex use to attack me all the time. She was a petulant child who lived in my house and had to have everything her way. Of course she was smaller than me and it never hurt, but it was still unnecessary and uncalled for. I knew if I would have grabbed her and moved her to the side I would have spent that night in a jail cell. I’m glad Johnny got this win. Hopefully things begin to turn around and the courts realize women can be aggressors.

[+][deleted] -18 points-17 points-16 points 4 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Jesus Christ guys. Yes the average man will not get the same chance as Johnny depp but the average woman didn’t have a good shot at successfully suing her abuser before the Harvey Weinstein case. Now women are believed more. Same thing I’d gonna happen with men now too.

Lighten up yo.

Edit: I genuinely don’t understand why people are mad with this comment.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The average woman has always had a good chance at winning sexual abuse claims if there was proof. With #metoo women without evidence can claim abuse as long as enough women without evidence gang up. Now days they send letters to anyone who worked for the target man and, based on their testimony alone, a man can be convicted. Anyone that doesn't like you for 30 years can come forward and lie and there is no consequences.

[–]TheKasp 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

but the average woman didn’t have a good shot at successfully suing her abuser before the Harvey Weinstein case

Wait what? Are you for real? Do you think the Weinstein case was an actual turning point?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Compared to now. Yes. Do you seriously not agree?

[–]TheKasp 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No? And compared to now? Do you think now it's harder for women to sue their abusers?

The Weinstein case only mattered in the court of public opinion.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Jesus. Let me try again:

Women found it easier to accuse and sue men for abuse after Harvey Weinstein case. Johnny Depp case will do the same for me.

Pffff

[–]TheKasp2 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Ok, then I misunderstood you.

I think this case will lead to more men at least admitting to themselfs that what they experienced was abuse. I think people will have a bit more sympathy for male victims of abuse when the perpetrator is female. I don't think it will make it easier for them to sue yet. I also can see how the Weinstein case had similiar effects.

So... I agree to some extend.

[–]Turbulent-Sorbet9125 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

seem no, where are NGO's?

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