Will society recover

jr_geppetto · 2023-06-04T07:08:07+00:00

I agree with all the pessimism in the comments, HOWEVER, I will point out one ray of hope: The Homesteading Trend. What I'm seeing is many people becoming interested in self-sufficiency and living a simple isolated life in a rural setting - growing their own food, living off the grid, etc. With this desire comes a rediscovery of the traditional values of that lifestyle.

It's very important to note that people from both the political left and political right are embracing this lifestyle. From the left you have the actual real environmentalists who see corporations destroying the ecosystem with contaminants. And from the right you have those who support a small government, want true independence, and who do not want to depend on the public/private grid for their survival. Both groups are doing the same thing and beginning to learn and rediscover the same skills. I don't know how successful they will be but I'm trying to become one of them and I think they're on the right track.

sunzi23 · 2023-06-04T07:14:26+00:00

Who cares? I've given up on 'society'.

hehimCA · 2023-06-04T01:21:58+00:00

I’m worried things are going to get worse before they get better. People are very divided right now and sadly I don’t see that changing soon.

Yung4Yrs · 2023-06-04T05:28:31+00:00

Most of the comments here assume that western culture in general and the USofA in particular will muddle along and can survive the revisionist history and horribly shallow level of our cultures intellect. It cannot. There is no time in human history that there are so many big economies carrying soooooo much government debt with currencies that are just printed paper based on nothing. No Equivalent. Ever. It's not gonna end well.

Since men are the #1 root of evil in the world, they're gonna be the cause, not the fix. It's going to be rough. Very rough here. Much worse in South Africa, Sudan, Venezuela, etc. People will starve there. Our chances? If a big enough coalition comes together and just tells the other side logic and sanity wins, you are fu***** done? Is there enough remnant that believes in American ideals? Don't know. I hope so. Ain't gonna be pretty. We either come around fast or the deep state/elites win. Permanently.

AdIllustrious6191 · 2023-06-04T02:05:08+00:00

We're heading to anarchy followed by a totalitarian government. Well on our way there.

JohnnyUpright9 · 2023-06-04T10:35:00+00:00

“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. “Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.” - from Ernest Hemmingways The sun also rises

The west is going to hell in a hurry. Once the USD starts to slide things could accelerate.

Get out if you can. Build up skills which will help you. Do nothing for western women. Avoid them as far as possible.

aerial_coitus · 2023-06-04T01:32:42+00:00

doubtful to happen in our lifetimes

apotr0paic · 2023-06-04T01:48:25+00:00

I know they’re a small minority, but masculine-presenting women get the same bs from other women. My masc-presenting/butch mom has been getting the same treatment since the 90s. Uptight third-wave feminazis are intimidated by her because she can actually hold her own, and they don’t like that she wants true equality and not handouts. They see her as just as much a threat as they see men.

OkPresentation8217 · 2023-06-04T12:09:10+00:00

Things don't happen automatically. You gotta fight for it.

denisc9918 · 2023-06-04T01:59:01+00:00

Nope, western societies as we know them are doomed.

We don't have a hostile army ready to swarm us like the Romans did so we'll end slightly differently but we will become peasants to the Lords like most of history.

DemonKai7 · 2023-06-04T01:58:18+00:00

I don't think so.

shydude92 · 2023-06-04T04:04:23+00:00

I feel it'll happen when the boys who are teenagers and early 20s now, i.e. Gen Z start to have more influence in the world and getting into more corporate and political positions. The Boomers and early Gen Xers who are at the top now grew up in a completely different world and they would not hold the naively optimistic views and condescending attitudes if they had grown up today. However, politics is almost geriatric with most top politicians being in their 50s, 60s or even older and the corporate world has changed a lot as well, it's much harder to be a self-made CEO in your 20s or early 30s of a top company. So it'll probably take at least 30-40 years, but it will happen, although most of us will be either dead or very old by then.

HomeIsButADream · 2023-06-04T15:59:23+00:00

Life is a pendulum. While it swings this way and the further this way it swings, the farther it will swing the other way.

IlliteracyPrevails · 2023-06-04T02:22:34+00:00

I think there's way too much hatred in peoples' hearts, obviously not all. Just in general. I think too much attention has been fed into the media and government, even if it's out of anger or frustration people have been listening. It's scary when you realize the state of the country is all thanks to some handy little words and phrases to make people think someone is out to get them on either side. Moderates aren't considered because apparently moderates get nothing done. Hatred, revenge, degradation, they know you're not the direct cause but they don't care. It's the same any way you look at it. But the easy target is of course the biggest, well 'biggest'; men. Any man. It's easy for people to accept propaganda when they're told their opposition is evil as a whole. People aren't immune. Minds can be like clay, malleable until they just stick the way you formed em. Will we see improvement soon? Very likely not. Words and beliefs are too deep-rooted right now. It may be a while until they start to water down. I believe we're only in the beginning. I do not believe they're all out to get us however. I know boundaries are a tricky thing but it's best not to help along their effort. I doubt it'll ever come down to needing full-on riots. We all know how much politicians and news pieces love those things. I can't speak for us all cause who am I even, but I do think about it a lot. It'll only be getting worse I imagine.

shit-zen-giggles · 2023-06-04T04:41:50+00:00

An important scientific innovation rarely makes its way by gradually winning over and converting its opponents: it rarely happens that Saul becomes Paul. What does happen is that its opponents gradually die out, and that the growing generation is familiarized with the ideas from the beginning: another instance of the fact that the future lies with the youth.

— Max Planck, Scientific autobiography, 1950, p. 33, 97

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck%27s_principle

EvenApplication5739 · 2023-06-04T17:12:50+00:00

I ask myself this everyday. I do know that for every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction. It's one of the laws of nature. Men stepping out of the dating scene and preferring video games to sex will have terrible consequences for women.

g1455ofwater · 2023-06-04T06:59:46+00:00

When countries don't maintain families they're gonna run into problems that will eventually lead to a decrease in quality of life and that's what will spur a change. Feminism is a luxury belief that will be discarded when life gets hard enough for the average person.

t-D7 · 2023-06-04T10:24:53+00:00

imo no. it has to crash down to fully recover. too many political agendas (cultural marxism), stagnant wages, houing crisis.

Amazing_Hamster8501 · 2023-06-04T01:57:48+00:00

I know that what I’m about to say might sound like that a Mental Patient has escaped from his Asylum but here me out on this one. If Men want to survive in the future we will have to launch an Insurgency against the US Government in the Great Smoky Mountains. Guns are very easy to buy in the United States if I wanted a Gun right now all I need to do is to walk to my Local Gun Store and buy a Gun that I like. We also don’t even need Uniforms in this Plan all we need is Packs of Colored Armbands to signify our Rank (Examples: Yellow = Private, Red = Major, Blue = Colonel). Anyways back to my Point I think Men consider a possible Insurgency because that will pressure the Feminist US Government from passing more Laws to make Men 2nd-Class Citizens and maybe even reverse those Laws. We could have our Own Communities in the Great Smoky Mountains like the Jamaican Maroons who created their Own Communities in the Jungles away from the British Colonists during the 1600’s. Gun Rights are Men’s Rights.

BigDaddyDeliciousD · 2023-06-04T17:20:38+00:00

We are seeing these feminists fall on their faces right now. I have some hope.

Reptani · 2023-06-04T18:37:04+00:00

WTF I don't often comment in this subreddit but you guys are so pessimistic! A surefire way for a society to suffer is for people to just give up on it instead of making an effort to fix its problems.

Amazing_Hamster8501 · 2023-06-04T01:16:37+00:00

I know that I might sound like a Mental Asylum Patient but if we Men want to thrive and survive in the future we will have to start an Insurgency in the United States (Firearms are very easy to be purchased in the United States). That is the only way that we can stop the Feminist US Government from passing more Laws to make Men Second-Class Citizens or even Third-Class Citizens. We don’t even have to wear Uniforms for the Insurgency all we have to do is to buy Boxes of Colored Armbands to distinguish our Rank (Purple Armband = Private, Yellow Armband = Major, Red Armband = Colonel). I’m not trying to incite Violence it’s just my Opinion on how Men need to fight back.

Neither_Still8887 · 2023-06-04T08:57:29+00:00

In what way are men second class citizens?

I get men have it tough in some ways. But worse than women? Are you crazy. Women aren't even allowed to drive in some countries. And yall really think - women crossing the road/not smiling at you is equal to women getting stoned in the middle eazt

AngryPenguin92 · 2023-06-04T19:48:01+00:00

I want a world where women ask the men out and get rejected.

Title	Will society recover
Author	-Blueberry-1
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Comments	75
Date	June 4, 2023 12:39 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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