Men VS Men?

plumberack · 2023-06-03T05:33:19+00:00

Most men may not indentify themselves as feminist but they do have pro-feminist mindset.

ZUZARIX · 2023-06-03T05:45:52+00:00

Thomas sowell says it’s often those in your very camp that hood you back the most.

If you complain about women in anyway the first to shit on you are men. Because I guess it makes them feel like they are more secure in their life. Even though they aren’t.

It is the same trope at uni why people don’t raise their hands. They don’t want others to think they are the only ones who don’t understand. So In these discussions the insecure men think if they agree with you other women will think they are weak. Which is odd. I don’t care what people think.

An example is the slightly tangential “is sex even thst good” nowhere on the internet can you find reasonable discussion on this topic. Because most men think if they agree with you women won’t shag them because they will think they aren’t good in bed. So you get “mate you’re just bad at sex” or mate “ you’re addicted to porn” or “you haven’t met good women” but if a woman is asexual or not that chuffed about sex she’s is transcendent. I know it sounds stupid but this is why men don’t speak up. Because they have other men telling them they are rubbish for saying things most would probably think hmm is not that crazy of an idea.

OkPresentation8217 · 2023-06-03T07:34:43+00:00

It's gynocentrism.

The society prioritises women's needs and wants over men's needs and wants.

Radical Feminism knows this and uses it as a weapon to control 'mens liberation' movement.

Mens lib doesn't understand that they are breaking gender norms and creating the same norms. A white knight still exists.

But alas, they won't listen to cis men who are suffering, instead they will open their ears when trans men speak out.

That's how blind these white knights are.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2023-06-03T07:52:08+00:00

Some men are virtue signaling thinking it will endear them to women, some have been brainwashed and suffer from internalized misandry.

No-Knowledge-8867 · 2023-06-03T09:04:23+00:00

Men don't have the same in-group bias that women have.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15491274/

Men are evolutionarily designed to protect women. Women have no equivalent evolutionary drive

LocalNobody117 · 2023-06-03T12:12:19+00:00

Simps or men too cowardly to stand up for each other. You should hate the Injustice period , it shouldn't be gender based ideally , or Insecure men who need to feed their ego by bashing other men bc they are insecure or immature

Acceptable_Visit604 · 2023-06-04T13:09:33+00:00

You're not wrong

DamaloBlack · 2023-06-03T07:48:01+00:00

"Femnoids"

Buddy I don't think there is an appropriate ground for a discussion with this premise

Alexander-Gilmore · 2023-06-03T20:10:51+00:00

I've certainly delt with this first hand many times, they act as a bodyguard for her the moment she accuses any man of being a threat, and will make up anything to control the men who suck up to her. I think is men we should really push against this special treatment of women.

Herbaderpy · 2023-06-03T12:44:08+00:00

Because answering extremism with another kind of extremism is not the right answer

hellswrath88 · 2023-06-03T10:25:42+00:00

Bad behaviour from women are enabled by weak men.

Professional-You2968 · 2023-06-03T07:29:11+00:00

Brainwashing.

Harsh-Pain-No-Gain · 2023-06-03T11:00:12+00:00

Simp Pandemic

For a Massive Unfortune.

mrID007 · 2023-06-03T17:35:33+00:00

They think it will get them laid…

liferelationshi · 2023-06-03T16:19:44+00:00

They’re white knights who try to get in with a woman or women to get in their pants.

AspirationsOfFreedom · 2023-06-04T09:18:06+00:00

It really deppends.

I've been in this sub deffending women. And here is why:

They arent perfect, we arent perfect. And why usually men gets the short straw on bullshit so much, SOMETIMES people here go too far with their critique and go into dangerous retoric like women arent people. And we NEED to be rational, logical and to talk down the extremes.

The only way to work together, is to put our differences aside and focus on problems case by case.

batescommamaster · 2023-06-03T16:32:09+00:00

Because in my life I've noticed far more problematic male behavior than female behavior. Granted, I'm not a supporter of this sub; I subscribe to opposing viewpoints.

Literally the only victim of false accusation I know of is myself, but it wasn't because the women lied, it's because at that time many of the campus cops were rapists and probably didnt take accusations seriously enough to investigate. And my "friends" (men and women) didn't see fit to look into it further themselves.

Or even tell me about it. I found out years after the fact when the girl I dated right before that were going to reconnect and go to a classmates wedding together.

So I figured out that everyone hated me for at least a couple of years me without knowing about any of it. I missed the wedding, and I set a new record in driving time from the upper peninsula of Michigan to Grand Lake Colorado, then to a psych ward in KS.

Anyway, yeah I was mad at the woman for a while than I figured with the situation she might of just been roofed when she got to her cooed dorm from our last date.

Anyway way off tangent.

Furthermore, in my conversations with both man and woman most men do talk like they value sex over anything else they might get out of a relationship.

I still don't know what to make of that, just because I have known guys who all but said the only reason they were in a relationship was for the sex, and while it seems wrong and using to me they get to break up with the person and remain blameless. Most of this was when all the girls around me hated me without me knowing; so maybe you can imagine the frustration I was feeling.

And there's no logical way to blame any of the women in that situation. I suppose I could surmise they were naive and duped by these men... but that's hardly a fair criticism, Is it? If i was a person who was sexually harassed consistently since I was 12, constantly feeling in danger, I probably would have to latch on to the best relationship I could find just to deal with all the outside pressures.

Lastly I might add there is nothing about this world that suggests it's meant to be fair. You can fight for a perceived injustice, but there is no natural imposition on others to care. You'd have to show the problem was systemic. You also have to show that the unique solutions that are needed address the problems specific go the problems your talking about.

By that I mean, there are a lot of potential social helps that might help men in general... but I don't see specific good solutions that wouldn't just help everyone. Like if we created a society where poor hardworking people got to live comfortably enough to think... that would be great for men in general but it's not really a men issue, it's a class issue.

But yeah back to the world being fair. it's not. And men don't generally get screwed over more than women. Like sure it happens but in a world where we're all screwing each other over its kind of hard to expect a fair deal of things, good intentions or not.

Glimmerofinsight · 2023-06-03T15:36:20+00:00

Because not all men hate women.

DismalParticular4799 · 2023-06-03T17:40:57+00:00

They want to make you look bad, so they don't have to compete with you, since for a lot of men it's about having a trophy wife/person not loving who you love. Divide and conquer just like the rest

Livid_Pilot7043 · 2023-06-03T10:34:21+00:00

Man will do a lot of things to get pussy 🤣🤣

FixDifficult752 · 2023-06-03T17:23:57+00:00

As another member said, we are living through a pandemic of weak and effeminate losers who try to win brownie points even if it means sacrificing the last bit of self respect and dignity they have in the hopes of gaining female validation. Sadly as more and more men are raised by single moms, more and more men will be like this. They'd rather shoot their fellow brother down for a woman that won't touch him with a ten foot pole,than to stand in solidarity with their fellow brother.

ijustdontcare74 · 2023-06-03T14:47:46+00:00

I’m convinced such men are usually married and their wives have their balls in her purse. I very much doubt single men support this nonsense unless they are desperate simps who think by siding with the feminists they will be offered a crumb of 🐈. However we all know that the only thing feminists hate more than MRAs are simps. Sure they say they love them, but look who they chase and bed…chads and alpha males, whilst the simps are endless friendzone members only used for their utility.

AdIllustrious6191 · 2023-06-03T15:34:54+00:00

Because they're trying to get laid. Many realize it too late when they're married with kids, just how screwed they are. When she cheats on him and wants a divorce, then comes the great enlightenment.

Cunari · 2023-06-04T02:11:40+00:00

Speech prof did it to start his following and when appealing to radfems wasn’t enough he changed his content to be broader.

Main-Tiger8593 · 2023-06-04T05:05:50+00:00

ok at which point would you say somebody crossed the line "critique vs discrimination/sexism" to be called out on it? asking because a lot of people on reddit know no lines...

Jammapanda · 2023-06-04T05:13:16+00:00

i wouldn't be surprised if at this point it's just because a lot of them are scared... for many reasons

SirIsaacGnuton · 2023-06-04T12:31:31+00:00

When someone claims that all feminists are radical feminists that's a counterproductive statement that should be opposed. My daughter is in a male dominated field. She faces discrimination based on her gender not her ability. Is it radical to believe that she should be treated equally?

Title	Men VS Men?
Author	-Blueberry-1
Upvotes	85
Comments	38
Date	June 3, 2023 5:28 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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