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Why do White Knights white knight?

seethruthong

August 27, 2014
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Title Why do White Knights white knight?
Author

seethruthong

Upvotes 6
Comments 35
Date August 27, 2014 10:12 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2ermik/why_do_white_knights_white_knight/
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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All the "White Knighting" I've ever seen was by people who were calling out someone else's shit. People normally like to defend each other man or woman especially when they share something in common or simply because unfairness and aggressiveness should be called out. I've seen plenty of men get in between an argument between two women to settle down the situation so that it doesn't escalate any further and I've seen plenty of women do the exact same thing.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's mostly a crazy affinity for women. Anything "cute," "pretty," "adorable," or "beautiful" will be white knighted in today's world. Cute animals over at /r/aww, for example.

Men could really cool their damn jets though. Favoriting the cute and the beautiful is volunteering to not see straight, and not seeing straight is going to get your shit run over.

EDIT

That being said, I do white knight my fave celebs. Just because. I know it's wrong though.

[–]adrixshadowIndigo Pill(aka dark and evil occult pill)-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I like cute adorable wolves that wolf down on cute adorable lambs.

In the natural world there is nothing is cute.

[–]joncho1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

On the contrary, children better be cute for their own survival. If children are not able to turn on our caring instincs they are toast. And this applies for any other animal too.

[–]17b29a3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Never been able to take that term seriously.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

How do you feel about cute things and cute animals?

[–]17b29a-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

they're lovely. was just watching this, v. cute

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Would you come to the rescue if an awfully cute dog or kitten was in trouble and you had the power to help? Even if it had been naughty earlier?

[–]17b29a0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. I'd probably do that for most animals and people.

Not sure how that pertains to what a silly term it is.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Well, when men do that for women, it's called white-knighting. At it's core is favoritism and permissiveness towards a creature we adore.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When men do it exclusively for women it's white knighting.

It also relies on the assumption that women are less capable of defending themselves than men, even when strength is irrelevant such as on the internet.

[–]17b29a-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

what, help someone? seems like you do that for men too

[–]an_absolute_roseRed Pill Boy3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

White knights typically hate most other men in my experiences.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Nope.

"Let him suffer."

"He'll be fine."

"It'll be good for him."

"He deserves it."

"This is what he needs."

You can see this especially in father-son relationships. I believe it's called "tough love." It was how I was raised starting at about age 12. I've lived out of a car in three different cities off and on for a good 6+ years of my life. Nobody white knights a male.

[–]17b29a0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

idk if youve noticed but ppl do help men pretty often...

at times like you mentioned where they don't, it's problem with the p. awful patriarchal attitudes there, not rly a problem with white-knighting of women... . . . .. .

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Big difference between helping and white knighting.

You can help a homeless ugly person by giving them a couple of dollars and wishing them good luck. But if you're a cute kitty cat, you can be helped all the way back to somebody's house for love, pampering, and warm hugs.

If you're adorable, you win.

[–]17b29a1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

ok hun! the whole reference to "helping" sorta confused me then

i've just never seen white knighting being used in reference to something that was genuinely special treatment or w/e. i must have missed it o.O

[–][deleted]1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The thing about white knighting is people that do it don't know that that's what they're doing when they do it.

[–]17b29a2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

and i don't know it either apparently o.O

[–]DocileBanalBovine 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I feel like 99% of the people I've seen called out as white knights were just telling someone not to be an asshole and they happened to be assholes towards a woman.

The women that they rush to protect couldn't give a rat's ass about them. What are they hoping to gain by being a woman's loyal poodle? Poontang, maybe?

Perhaps they don't give a rat's ass about the woman, they just don't like people being shitty?

[–]an_absolute_roseRed Pill Boy2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My father feels like it's his duty. He tried to raise me with this mentality so I assume that's exactly how he was raised.

[–]workerbeebuzz-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the way I was raised: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

[–]biscotti_karateLord of the Bro-STEMs4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have never seen it as "white knighting", merely calling out someone for their inappropriate behavior. For me it deals with the fact that if you disagree with someone's behavior towards another, male or female, you have every right to support and say "not cool" to abusive/discriminatory behavior. If you're going to act like a bitch, then you should treated like a bitch.

[–]reezyredditsPurple Pill Man2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Part of the cultural phenomenon that is currently taking place where people feel good for being self-righteous and calling out/intervening in what they believe are "problematic" behaviors. I certainly think a lot of white knights want to prove to a woman that they are mature and noble for defending their honor. It's really another spin on the whole "doing what you think will gain respect with women" narrative that men have been learning (i.e. "just be yourself!" "just be nice!" "just white knight!") haha.

But I would argue that there is a way to be a respectable white knight. Hank Moody's character in Californication is pretty "alpha" and sleeps with his pick of the litter, but he also white knights quite a bit.

[–]chazzALB37yo Purple Perma-Virgin0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My question is do these white knights realize that their actions are sexist (benevolent sexism) ?

[–]CFRProflcopter( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)[M] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rule 4:

Don't circlejerk. Avoid leading questions designed to put people on the defensive. What is circle-jerking within the context of Purple Pill Debate? Any snarky comment that contains mocking terms (alfalfa, white knight) designed to insult, or otherwise perturb users. It's absolutely fine to be funny, however try to ensure that you're comment is not perceived as an attempt to attack other users or undermine the conversation. Amongst the harmless lols should be content that genuinely furthers the discussion.

[–]workerbeebuzz0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do I do it? Because sticking up for the underdog, helping the beleaguered and protecting the weak is something I value.

[–]nicethingyoucanthaveRed Pill Male0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For some of them, I think that they're just trying to elevate themselves above total invisibility.

[–]CallMeMrBadGuy-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I think it's society's thoughts more often than not. We've generally reinforced "blah blah blah women are dainty and delicate and need protecting blah blah chivalry and a true gentlesir". Their is also I suppose a side to it of poontang (like in the case where Tyler from RSD humiliates some super whiteknighting beta dude who thought he was treating some women like an "asshole" despite that they were lapping it up the idiot).

[–]CallMeMrBadGuy-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Found and am including the aforementioned hilarious White Knight shutdown for loser BP white knight types.

[–]adrixshadowIndigo Pill(aka dark and evil occult pill)-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is somewhat instinct to protect women and to pamper them.

It's why cruel sexual laws disappeared the moment there was no reason to sustain them.

[–]shitpostwhispererReality Contrarian-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Circular logic... White knight started and should remain a joke term.

[–]MagicGainbowKeepin' it real, havin' a feel-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've seen it in the wild so to speak, it doesn't end badly per se, it just never ends how the want(with the girl rewarding her brave sir with sexy times).

It usually ends with the guy getting laughed at by both the 'asshole' and the chick(who either leaves with the asshole or leaves with someone else(never the white knight).

[–]Plugawy_Nedznik -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think they're doing it to get into female pants. They really are that brainwashed by modern feminized society.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's the whole "Nice Guy" thing. They do it because they are "such a nice guy", except that they do it for selfish reasons. If you want to help people and genuinely do it for the sake of being there for them, it's cool, but when you start to do that stuff for something else, it just looks well, ridiculous, in a sense. I mean, the tie in is there, would love to explore that more. It's a fine line though. If you are legitimately calling someone on their shit, it's fine, but the intentions are the important part.

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