Nice try, "queen bin-laden."

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Y'all need Jesus.

He didn't fuck anyone.

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Because these things don't exist from a vacuum, we have records of what was legally and society accepted. Look, it's just 1 thread. You can go to any 1 of the comments and leave your misinformed over emotional responses, you don' need to comment on everyone of mine.

if both people have reached sexual maturity then it would be deemed permissable by everyone besides you apparently.

Yes, everyone except me is ok with 9 year olds marrying adults.... stop justifying that disgusting practice.

Please provide evidence to your arguments rather than poor blanket statements like "stop romanticising pedophilia".

I don't need to provide any evidence when I'm responding to someones claim that had no evidence either.

So did literally every man of every culture in that time.

You "prove" that, and I will show you the evidence of where you are wrong. BTW, your gross.

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is that your counterpoint? How come it was perfectly ok for you to come to the conclusion

So did literally every man of every culture in that time.

But when that's countered, all of a sudden "you needed to be back there to know it".

Regardless, to answer your question, we know this because of the historical record. From the roman times pretty much onwards (atleast in western societies), 12 and up was the minimum age, and typically a 12 year old girl was married to a 14 year old boy.

You weren't seeing much of 6 and 7 year olds being wed to a 40 year old...

Christianity set it to 12 years, Judaism set it to 12 years and a day, only one of the Abrahamic religions are silent on that area. It's not surprising that its the one that allows sex slaves and multiple wives doesn't care much about age.

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It’s mentioned three times, by Ayisha herself even. It’s no mystery or secret. It’s just that if you are a Muslim, your imam will hide this from you and deny or defend anything. Islam is a religion based on deception and Allah himself brags that he is the best deceiver. So don’t expect truthfulness from that source.

But if you start reading your own books you will go through three stages:

Denial. Deny anything that talks about how much of an asshole Mohammed was. This is your current stage. It’s usually based on ignorance, but may also be based on deception.
Defense. You realize what an asshole Mohammed was but you put forth every conceivable and inconceivable argument as to why it is still good. “That was the custom”, “She was an early bloomer”, “He only killed that entire tribe because they offended Allah” etc. Seems you may be starting to sniff out this stage.
Acceptance. If you are an honest person your conscience will start weighing on you until you realize you can no longer follow the teachings of a war mongering, mass murdering, child raping, ignorant, illiterate, lecherous, demon possessed, lying scumbag. When you do, we are ready to welcome you out of his death cult.

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Tell me what I made up, rather then making baselss claims.

Jesus married at seven

You already provided me a blog post which states the opposite....

. No society put a physical age restriction in those times.

Yes, again, by the link you sent me, the age was 12.

Like even WIKI has it covered...

In Jewish oral tradition, men cannot consent to marriage until they reach the age of majority of 13 years and one day and have undergone puberty. With no signs of puberty, they are considered minors until the age of twenty. After twenty, they are not considered adults if they show signs of impotence. If they show no signs of puberty or do show impotence, they automatically become adults by age 35 and can marry. The same rules apply to women, except their age of majority is 12 years and a day.[3][4]

In ancient Rome, it was very common for girls to marry and have children shortly after the onset of puberty. Roman law required brides to be at least 12 years old.[5] In Roman law, first marriages to brides from 12 to 24 required the consent of the bride and her father; by the late antique period, Roman law permitted women over 25 to marry without parental consent.[6]

King Tut took a wife at the age of 9 as well and that's a much earlier civilization.

1) That's the pre-civilization to the arab world, so kind of the point

2) The royal family married brother to sister when he took the throne, not really related to the topic on hand, he would have been bethroed to his sister since birth, and this was just a formality

3) There's a massive difference between a 9 year old, marying an 11 year old, and a 6 year old marying a 40 year old.

4) How many thousands of years before when we are discussing did this happen?

You sit there and say i fuel bigotry, but its you. You as a representative of Islam are tyring to defend an ADULT marrying a CHILD. No a good look. If more of you could just say, "yeah thats bad, don't do it" and leave it at that, there would probably be less bigotry tbh.

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Jesus probably wasn't even real tbh, and I don't think there is any documentation that he married.

What do you think is made up? Romans having minimum age laws or Christians?

You're just making shit up to fuel bigotry.

No i'm not. If the raw facts is all it takes to cause bigortry, the problem isn't the facts.

You're close minded and you can't really be bothered to look for answers.

No, I'm not close minded, I'm actually very well educated on Islam and Christianity.

The only close minded one is you, who has come to his conclusions based on a fairy tale his parents told him when he was a child, and now has to force reality to bend to that world view.

Read this if you don't believe me

Oooooooooooooo a blog post, CraZY!

Regardless to the quality of that evidence, from your link

Now does this mean Joash started having sex with his two wives when he was seven? Probably not. But it was probably not long into his early teens when did.

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ready for marriage as soon as they were physically ready to conceive and bear children, which according to the law was twelve and one-half years.

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Jesus Christ, a devout, practicing Jew who dearly loved his Jewish faith, grew up with this view of celibacy. .

So thank you for proving my point?

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So there is haddith of him being 53 and fucking a 9 year old? Great id love to see it

ok:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. -Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:58:234

or

Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. Sahih al-Bukhari - 5:58:236

or

Narrated 'Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Sahih al-Bukhari, 7:62:64

of

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

Sahih Muslim 8:3311

How old was he when he died? You just need to subtract 9 from that. Are you even a muslim? You should know how old Muhammed was when he married.

You are literally making only baseless claims.

I've repeated the accepted ages according to islamic scholars, and i've posted about the very easy to verify marriage laws of christians, romans and jews... I don't know how you can be naive enough to use a term like baseless to this...

point I'm making which is what the prophet did was commonplace for many people of all religions at that time

Wait, so you agree now? you admit the prophet did this? Ok good, I don't know why you spent so much time pretending he didn't.

3) A Roman girl was considered ready for marriage at the age of 12, though 14 was the standard for both bride and groom. Fathers would choose a husband and conduct the required arrangements, including the size of the dowry, with the groom's family. Especially in patrician or upper class families, economic or political considerations were far more important than love or compatibility of the couple. - Happy my uneducated friend? theirs a source for my "baseless claim".

Teens married teens in older times, 6 year olds did not marry adults. People wouldn't be as offended as they are today, because society didn't care as much for children as they do now, but it was definatley looked down upon and not considered the norm.

You're attacking my wording

I'm not attacking your wording, i'm attacking your point and saying that your point is weak, and unfounded that you are resorting to attempts to distort the discussion by misusing the term baseless.

and my references

1 reference, lets not pluralize it. And i didn't attack it because your 1 reference doesn't agree with you, it said Jesus was celibate and that children didn't get married until 12-14. It disagreed with your premises.

the point I'm making

You aren't making a single point though, you're making several

1) The prophet was not an adult when he married Aisha 2) Even if he did its ok, because it was common place 3) Jesus married a child 4) King tut married his sister when he was a kid

All of those except #4 are wrong, but the point you are trying to make is everywhere. You're so shaken at someone insulting your misguided world view you can't focus.

Which is to betroth someone at a young age and then later consumate the marriage.

Typically betrothals are between two young children, who get married when they are older. When its between a child and an adult, they still wait until 12-17 years, not 9... and again, i can't stress this enough. It's usually to comparable ages.

People were known to mature much earlier

Bull shit, people mature earlier now.

putting Western modern morals on people of another time and place

No, I'm using morals from 1st century Rome, 5th century Catholicism and iron age Judaism to tell you why the much more modern 8th Muhammed was not widely accepted in this, err, decision, I just checked on China to, and the Ancient Chinese had legal requirements for 15 or 16 years old for women.

So I'm literally using the morals of some of the most ancient civilizations in history.

People were known to mature much earlier

and err, gross, stop justifying pedophillia.

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IT STILL IS NOT OKAY. There are hadithes of this woman as a six year old playing on swings and taking dolls to Muhammeds house

Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234

Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Sahih Bukhari 8:73:151

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Title	Nice try, "queen bin-laden."
Author	turdFARMER_DDS
Upvotes	15230
Comments	225
Date	July 16, 2019 3:43 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/cdyqeu/nice_try_queen_binladen/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PussyPassDenied/nice-try-queen-bin-laden.1070047 https://theredarchive.com/post/1070047

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