A Military Rant

PhantomDream09 · 2016-12-15T19:12:59+00:00

Love this rant, and what this man has to say.

When dealing with life and death: you need to be surrounded by people you can trust (ie: they can/will pull their own weight), and be as prepared (for situations that cannot be prepared for) as much as possible.

I believe in streamlined processing. For example if you are between 18-22 (male or female) there's a standardized set of tests (physical) and appropriate 'pass' ranges. The standard should be based solely on the original male qualifying ranges (which I know vary depending on the age of the person in question), it should not be altered or lowered to accommodate women). If women can preform to the same level physically as a normal man - awesome!

As far as I know, there isn't a special test for female cardiologists and a different one for male cardiologists. If we expect (demand) men and women to prove they have specific intelligence levels/knowledge in areas where life and death are often decided by knowledge and skill; then areas where life and death (success and failure) are largely decided by physical/mental ability - the standards should similarly be unified.

We have firefighters changing standards so more women can join - only to have them create additional risks/danger when there's a fire because they can't hack it.

I think it's a similar (although less deadly haha) situation to what we see in the fashion/modeling world. Everyone wants fat people to be 'included' - promote 'normal' (cough morbidly obese) women into high fashion, media, and clothing brands. We see it in a different permutation with the idea that "participation means achievement/winning" - why are we telling kids they won just by entering a competition?

It's a systemic, widespread decay of standards that exist for a reason. Next we'll give top grades to students just for attending class, without asking them to show in measurable ways they actually learned something. Not that the education system is by any means great in its current form...

Katiescarlett5 · 2016-12-15T19:04:42+00:00

My brother-in-law recently retired from the army, and he would agree with that rant 100%. I have heard him make some very similar comments recently. Women in combat roles and the recent proposal to draft women ate hot button topics with him.

Also, can we just take a moment to appreciate what a good looking guy that is?

whistling_dixie · 2016-12-15T21:31:06+00:00

I absolutely 100% agree with this. We actually just saw on the national news the other night that a lot of Marine Corps recruits have been speaking out over the "appalling" treatment they received after arriving at basic. Pretty much everything they listed as "mistreatment" were things B went through.

Being put through things that most people would never be able to handle is a necessary part of the training - you're not going there just to become physically strong, but mentally strong. If you can't handle it, you're just not fucking cut out to be in the military. Not sorry, that's the truth of it. The moment our military is subverted by SJW/PC/pussy culture, is the moment our military ceases to be the best in the world.

It's truly disheartening that this mindset has been allowed to spread this far. It was not even ten years ago that I joined the army and got my ass handed to me at RSP (I did not get to go to basic, I got a medical discharge due to a chronic health condition that reared its head after pushing myself at RSP - it's a huge disappointment to me as I was going in as a musician, but EVERYONE must pass the basics and I was sadly not physically capable). On my second weekend at RSP, we were given a PT challenge and told that if we did not complete it, we would do it again until we did. But if we did, there would be a reward. That challenge was a timed two-mile run - I completed it, but several did not. And you bet your ass that they did it over again. I got a Battle Book at the end of the day as my reward for completing the challenge. Several left that weekend without one. I still have mine, I keep it on my shelf with my name tape still on it - I earned that and I was proud.

I recently saw a video (can't find it, sorry) of someone else of my generation complaining about being called the "participation trophy" generation - saying that hey, we didn't ask for these, and you guys are the ones who gave them to us - it's not our fault.

But it is our fault - so many took those participation ribbons and said "Hey, I didn't leave empty handed, this is good enough" and never strove to be any better. If you never try to be better, you'll never deserve better - and expecting to be treated equally for your own shortcomings is laughable, but frighteningly more accepted every day.

BellaScarletta · 2016-12-15T17:46:31+00:00

Shots. Fired.

What do you think of this?

I, for one, am excited to see more people speak out against the era of offendedness and political correctness. This only feeds into the feminization of males and the complete lack of favours it does anyone, and shines light on yet another facet of our culture degrading as a consequence. Participation trophies (and the ensuing developmental damaged caused) happen in many arenas, but the military isn't one I've previously considered.

Now, I can freely admit I have little to no experience with the military, aside from the few friends/acquaintances who've joined (one of whom shared this video). So I'm especially interested in perhaps hearing from some of the women I know have husbands who have served or are currently serving.

In what ways do you see harmful agendas regarding gender? (I know, I know...too many to count).

When discussing with friends, I tend to focus on how men are being feminized while femininity is being demonized, and it's pushing all crowds toward an androgynous middle. That is something I do not want to see.

Do people agree or disagree with that (vague) assessment? Do you think the subject of this gentleman's rant is symptomatic of anything I've mentioned, or something else entirely?

I don't have any profound pre-prepared thoughts, but this came up on my FB feed and I was pleasantly surprised to see such a plain-spoken and raw defense of masculinity shared publicly. Hopefully some of y'all also find it discussion-worthy (:

frozen_strawberry · 2016-12-16T18:07:59+00:00

Not my experience at all. In my husbands unit there are several guys who need real medical attention but they just won't get it. There are guys who can barely walk yet they are expected to be any kind of productive infantry men. And they wonder why so many of those guys are alcoholics when that's all they have to medicate themselves and get through those days. I'm not saying they should get once a week spa treatments but proper medical attention so they can actually be useful in combat is the bare minimum in my eyes.

For outprocessing my husband tried selling his car to a buddy of his who used to be a master mechanic before joining the army so he knew exactly what he was buying but can't have that, the Co first has to approve the sale. Which conveniently he didn't until the very last day my husband was here meaning he almost wasn't able to complete the process and leave. He could of course also just have donates the vehicle to the car care Center, losing a lot of money. That's a thing I just really don't understand. Why not treat people like adults?

I could rant about a whole bunch of things and sound a lot more negative than I am towards the army but basically from what he has told me L was never babied and pretty much everything at his old duty station was an uphill battle. I feel like I'm coming across as exactly what everyone hates about this generation right now and being that wife but my experience with the army has been that they don't give a shit and if their old soldiers are broken they'll just keep them on until their contract is up and then kick them to the curb because they get new ones all the time. He's been telling me that his new duty station is better about all of that though so maybe those are just local problems.

Title	A Military Rant
Author	BellaScarletta
Upvotes	8
Comments	26
Date	December 15, 2016 5:45 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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