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[–]little_ga_peach 12 points12 points12 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Be polite and cordial. That's it. You don't have to go overboard to be friendly.
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[–]MistressCelius0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This, mostly.
Definitely let your friends know about the situation. Just be prepared to bail if drama flies because of Liz. Hopefully you'll be able to escape this unscathed, but sometimes there are the messy friendships that may need to be severed because of such drama.
[–]vintagegirlgame0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
My main concern is keeping the peace for the bride's sake and for my SO's peace of mind. He's quite riled up as he gets protective of me and can't stand how Liz treated me.
[–]MistressCelius0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hear ya.
I usually go into full disappearing retreat mode if drama appears and I don't any part of it. I would just politely excuse myself and disappear. I'll come back and explain why I did though; I have too much respect for my dear friends not to leave them hanging like that.
Dealing with emotions for me usually ends up with me ending up being too angry and about to punch a wall. Actually doing the punching doesn't do me any favors.
I would highly agree with your SO and everyone else here says; stick with your SO and avoid them like the plague. He's probably like me there and things can get nasty if it were to happen. He's also doing it to save his honor and pride as well.
[–]little_ga_peach1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Let it all roll off of you like water from a duck's feathers. She'll be the one who looks bad if you don't take any of her bait. Just excuse yourself from the situation and go sit at another table, for example.
[–]CocoaMotive7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stick to your SO like glue. In these situations I've found that if someone is going to have a go at me or start any kind of drama, they'll wait until I'm alone, the never dare do it in front of my husband.
[–]jocrue4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My only advice would be to be politely disinterested rather than giving the cold shoulder. Walking away from someone or blatantly avoiding them just invites more drama. You don't have to be best friends, but for the sake of your sanity (and out of respect for the bride and groom) treat them like hardly-known acquaintances rather than enemies.
Also, good point with the comment about the respect of your SO's privacy. Mine is also very private, and I've indulged more information about him than I should have on social media (nothing too terrible or humiliating/disparaging or anything, just stuff he would rather not be shared). Now when I'm making a post, taking a photo of him, or whatever else.. I just quickly ask him if it's alright. A simple, effective solution :)
[–]vintagegirlgame0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes I don't believe in keeping "enemies" as any negative charge against a person is actually a negative charge against you. Holding a grudge is hard for me and I just feel sorry for her that she doesn't value my friendship more. I believe the quote is that hating is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to drop dead." I'm doing my best to move on from this and I know the wedding will be a challenge.
My SO is very defensive of me and can get worked up about the situation. He almost didn't come but he wanted to be there for me. He said he really doesn't want me talking to them in any way. He knows I can be a big softie and he doesn't want any chance of me being pushed over.
[–]TempestTcup4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Be aware that since Liz is aware of your past involvement with RPW, she might be here now reading this. Knowing the wedding is coming up, and anticipating that you and your SO will be there, she might be hanging out here to see if you post about this. Edit accordingly (if needed) :)
[–]vintagegirlgame0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes I thought about that, but if she really has nothing better to do than stalk RPW for a whole year looking for glimpses of me, then I feel real sorry for her and she might as well see that I plan on avoiding her.
[–]TempestTcup1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No I meant that with the wedding coming up soon she might see if you post - not that she has been searching for you for a year. I doubt if you are THAT interesting :)
[–]whitebunny87 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
this is the wedding day of your friend, keep that in mind and think about how she wants her day to play out. she's invited both of you and "Liz", you're all grown ups, i can't believe this needs to be an issue.
I plan on letting our mutual friends know that we will be avoiding Liz & Dave so that hopefully they understand and won't think we're being rude to them if we have to walk away from a conversation.
this is just begging for drama. you're not in high school any more. smile, be polite, and remember it's your friend and her husbands wedding day.
your husband's mad at her and that's fine, but i think you're all capable of getting along and being cordial for one day.
Naturally I would try to just be formal and polite, but my SO has clearly stated to me that he doesn't want to be near them and that we are to walk away.
[–]TempestTcup1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Both of you need to stay away from alcohol during the wedding reception since it tends to escalate emotions. You need to be calm, cool and collected throughout the event in case either Liz or Dave gets nasty and causes a scene. Stick like glue to your SOs side the entire time.
I would suggest taking the time to get in touch with the friends you do want to see and meet with them in a different setting without Liz and Dave. Take advantage of the fact that many of your friends will all be together in the same city, and plan a get-together in a more relaxed atmosphere.
It's a destination wedding on a very small island, with a few smaller events planned before the wedding, so we will likely be all together in some form. I do intend to stick close to my SO. I hope they don't get wasted and try to cause any drama!
[–]ladieaupair 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is a really awkward and drama-filled situation to be involved with, that's for sure - I would just echo what has already been said; stay close to your SO, be polite, and just try to avoid them in general.
I would imagine that the bride has at least some inkling of what went down in the past and won't seat you near Liz and Dave, right? If not (and I don't know what kind of bride she is or how receptive she'd be to this) perhaps it would be worth it to delicately mention that it would be for the best if you weren't near them? I know you don't want to add more drama and stress to her big day, but this could potentially help.
Do you have any "allies" that will be there, i.e. a friend or another couple that is on the same page as you and your SO and knows the history? If so, maybe try to stick with them.
Good luck with this whole situation - honestly, the stress involved with this would lead me personally to write a very heartfelt letter to the bride and groom letting them know I wouldn't be able to make it to their wedding and send a very generous gift.
My SO almost didn't come because of all the drama, but thankfully he is here to support me.
The bride and our college friend group know what happened and have expressed support for me and my SO. The closest among our friend group admit that she can have a real negative streak that is only amplified by her husband. She also has a history of dramatic fallouts with friends, I just never thought I would be next on her list.
[–]bicepsblastingstud0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
if we have to walk away from a conversation.
For god's sake, it's not like she ran over your dog. You and your SO can handle being polite in conversation.
My SO has told me we have to walk away. He doesn't want to have to act fake. My natural inclination is to make nice, but he's expressed that it's important for me to follow him in this situation.
[–]bicepsblastingstud1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mm. I disagree with his decision, but I agree that it's critical for you to stand by him.
[–]RPDameendorsed woman0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
(mine is very RP while hers is BP where she wears the pants).
Sounds like she thought that she wore the pants in your friendship, too.
In my opinion, something more was going on here. She could not like your SO very much, but that alone wouldn't make her take it to those lengths. Is she competitive with you? Did she view you as only a tool in her life, so that when you went and got a boyfriend you weren't available to her as much and so she resented him and you? Did she have eyes on your SO and is mad he chose you? Is she just a snotty person who thinks that if others are happy it diminishes her happiness/attention? It could even be that she went into Wedding Pretty Pretty Princess mode, and needed to psychologically diminish your unmarried relationship as not as valid as hers, because they were getting married and she needed to believe that's what bestows value on a woman. That would go along with her BP view that marriage and husbands are trophies to be put on a shelf rather than things that should be nurtured.
I've had a very good friend suddenly stop talking to me ten years ago and I still don't know why. Her boyfriend at the time broke up with her, and while I was supporting her, I said that maybe he just wasn't the right guy for her. Then they got back together, and she stopped talking to me. It was like she associated me with the breakup and therefore excluding me from her life made her more comfortable. But, again, I have absolutely no idea why she stopped talking to me, even though I calmly asked her to please let me know what I'd done. People are strange creatures sometimes.
In the end, I just decided that she just wasn't a very good friend if she could do what she did. We still have mutual friends, though I haven't had to be in the same room as her. I don't know what I'd do if I did.
He wants nothing to do with them, does not want to talk to them, to have to fake politeness, start any drama or even any reconciliations (though I doubt that is likely, I have recently noticed that Liz has not just unfriended me on Facebook but actively blocked me). I will follow his lead on this, though I feel it may be easier said than done.
I think he's got a good plan. My concern would be that you're at a social gathering with certain codes of conduct and ice cold ignoring and active avoiding might not meet those requirements.
You might want to discuss this with him with the angle of "What if ignoring them causes a scene and puts unwanted attention on us? What if it's easier to say hello and then get away quickly?" What if you agree to not approach them, and if they approach you, you say a quick "hello" then relocate as quickly as possible? You can be clear that you're mostly worried about etiquette for the couple getting married and avoiding any scenes, you're not at all worried about preserving Liz and Dave's feelings.
Once he's decided, do what he suggests. I think it's a great idea that you tell your friends in advance (confidentially!) that you plan on not approaching Liz and Dan and avoiding them as much as possible in order to keep the focus on the bride and groom.
And discuss a plan with your SO about what you should do if either of you are cornered in the restrooms by Liz or Dan. If they want to cause drama, they may try to divide and conquer. So have a plan in place.
Overall, be classy, graceful, and full of joy. Show that you're still in love after all of these years. Happiness is the best revenge!
[–]PhantomDream09 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Be there for your dear friend, and focus on celebrating this happy occasion. If the other couple has any tact, I'm sure they will be focused on avoiding drama as well. You don't have to do anything other than enjoy seeing your friends, avoid drinking too much, and be polite.
On another note, your story serves as an important reminder to everyone here: be careful about the details you share online. Everyone should have a RP-specific account, and another simply for regular reddit use. Be cautious, and stay safe.
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