How much can smv REALLY be improved?

ragnarockette · 2019-09-11T23:19:20+00:00

Like 60% of America is overweight, so by being at a healthy weight, not even Victoria Secret model skinny, you are already above average.

Teeth, hair, nails, skin - all fixable. And I mean look at Kyle Jenner and Bella Hadid. With enough money genetics don't matter.

dangernoodle88 · 2019-09-11T23:52:40+00:00

It depends on where you're starting. A majority of women could improve significantly with diet and weight training. This is probably the single most impactful move. Next is skincare and neat grooming.

Something I notice is that women will pour loads of time into details like nails, hair, and fashion, makeup...while shying away from addressing the much more pressing issue of body shape. Yes, it's emotionally harder to change your lifestyle than go to the nail salon, but the payoff is astronomically higher.

Unless you're comfortable with the idea of surgery, it's fruitless to focus on genetic features you have no control over. The most perfect and polished makeup routine won't put someone with undesirable facial features on the same level as a model. But that's okay. The vast majority of us are not perfect and cultivating RMV goes a long way as well.

Edit: Also regarding "leagues". Idk if this is RP advice, but my mom always told me to marry someone whose league I was out of (physically). I think there's a lot of wisdom to this advice. Men who think you're a total catch treat you way better and are more eager to commit than men who think you're decent. I also think female attraction is more malleable than male attraction (becoming more attracted as we fall in love). So while maximizing SMV is an important part of the equation, the other part is adjusting your standards.

peculiarmiss · 2019-09-11T22:40:05+00:00

http://www.therulesrevisited.com/2011/09/feminine-beauty-is-highly-controllable.html

sonder_one · 2019-09-11T22:07:09+00:00

Obviously we all love to believe that looks don’t matter (as in genetic, inherited features) but how true is this really?

"We all"? Not here. This is a red pill forum. Harsh truths are the main course.

The point here is not to waste your time getting depressed over unattainable perfection. The point is to maximize your potential. Fortunately, there's an obvious area of focus: weight.

Women who become truly lean and toned are well above average in attractiveness no matter how horse-faced they may be. I'm not talking about "slightly thinner than I used to be." I'm talking about the body of someone who trains for competitive athletic competition. Serious fitness nuts. They're hot, even if their families are all ugly fatties.

I have known women like this who have scored very attractive husbands. Of course, their high energy, enthusiastic behavior adds to their attractiveness.

You might be thinking that you don't want to make that level of effort. Well, that's your choice! But you have to live with the consequences of your choices.

throw-away-140214 · 2019-09-11T23:00:19+00:00

There are a lot of things you can control, something's you could have controlled, and some things you can't control. Focus on the first two.

A genetically disadvantaged person who takes care of things that can will always be more attractive than a genetically advanced person who does not. To find a similar analogy, take a look at some of the earlier MMA fights where short thinner guys beat the absolute shit out of big hulking weight lifters etc. It was all about their choice to focus on skill instead of brute strength. Same applies here. Focus relentlessly on what you can control.

For example:

There are physical factors that pertain to diet & exercise, sun damage, overuse of alcohol and drugs, etc. You have control over all of these at various points in your life.

There are inherited traits that you don't control such as height, eye & hair color, skin complexion, inherited medical issues, etc.

There are cognitive & emotional factors that pertain to intelligence, conciousness, agreeableness, political perspective, etc. Some of these are very hard or impossible to change, some less so.

There are lifestyle factors such as your grooming, clothes, hobbies, community involvement, volunteering, education, job, income, net worth, etc. Most of these were highly impacted by your choices.

So I'd say 2 of the 4 categories are things you can or could have complete control of at some point. Generally, I focus on things that people can or could have controlled. The only things I care about that a person cannot control are mental illness and intelligence.

LateralThinker13 · 2019-09-12T16:25:34+00:00

How much can it be improved? Depends upon how much you were working to raise it as high as it could be. For most women, the answer to that is "Not very hard".

If you're overweight, you aren't trying.

If you're a slob/no makeup/unkempt, you aren't trying.

If you're not fit/tone, you aren't trying.

If you're not learned, you aren't trying.

If you have no homemaking skills, you aren't trying.

Etc. These are all things that radically raise your SMV, but some or all are neglected by women. Work to maximize/fix these items, and you're an easy 7 on the RMV chart even if you are a butterface.

Sobinia · 2019-09-14T17:57:39+00:00

I used to be a textbook 4. With over 60 kg. of weight (most girls my age weigh 45-55 kg. where I live), stained, often smelly clothes, poor hygiene, greasy hair and pimples on my face, I scared off most high-quality men. After I started maintaining proper hygiene, wearing clothes that show every positive trait of my body type, letting my hair loose, I became a 7.5/10 look-wise. If I wore a waist trainer, makeup and did more exercises to have a larger butt (I don't always find enough motivation to do them), I'd probably become an 8.5/10 by polish standards. As long as you don't have severe facial deformations or suffer from harsh illnesses, you can easily boost your SMV by 4 points. Been there, done that.

[deleted] · 2019-09-12T03:56:28+00:00

I would like to ask you all of you think Jessie James Decker would have a higher smv if she got a nose job?

SpiritSla · 2019-09-12T12:47:22+00:00

some online test assesses me as a "cool normie" male, i can answer this question. The single most important aspect is your level of intelligence and willingness to "team up" with the target. people are social animals and if you're beautiful but fucking retarded, i'd just do you for 1 weekend and move on. what i look for is a woman that thinks like me, a woman that sees what i see, someone i can trully relate to. thats not easy because i analyze facts. other people are often way too lazy to think much so... i get disgusted by their stupidity.

genetics, for me, is correlated strongly with intelligence... smarter often means dumber, altho some beautiful people are brilliant. They're just less common than the already rare smart people so.... intelligence and being relatable in a "joker movie" type of way, i make sick jokes, you better laugh, bitch! jk but yeah you get the idea. genetics is nice dont get me wrong, but at the end of the day, if you have nothing to say, there is a zero percent chance ill take you any seriously at all. You know... if anything, at least recognize that society is a fucking joke and tell me that by giving me concrete examples of what YOU find absurd or sad, things that most people might not say because they don't wanna "rock the boat". A good way to fascinate me quickly, is if you act in a "normie" way with stupid normies and then turn around to me and say something about the previous 5 minutes that normies wouldn't be able to understand. Like a little piece of arcane knowledge. If you tell me arcane knowledge I take interest.

allmycatsaregay · 2019-09-13T03:00:08+00:00

If you are thin, well dressed, educated, interested in others, charming, kind, a good cook, active in your communities and pursuing hobbies you’re going to be ahead of 99% of people. If you’re nose sucks or you have bad hair you’re still going to be way ahead of most, though behind those who put in as much effort as you, but have better luck with genetics.

Before you write off improving your smv as the path to happiness, give it your full effort for a year. If nothing else, working on all your flaws successfully will make you very confident and happy, which in itself is attractive.

DeannaDoesDallas · 2019-09-14T20:27:16+00:00

What you’re born with might stop you from being a model, but it won’t prevent you from finding a good man as long as you aren’t also judging him on the shallow stuff.

Title	How much can smv REALLY be improved?
Author	andidontcarehowufeel
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Comments	21
Date	September 11, 2019 9:48 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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