Understanding RPW

diaryofalostgirl · 2023-05-05T14:50:07+00:00

There is no definable RPW mold. We come from all backgrounds and adapt ourselves to all situations. What we have in common is that we deal in the reality of how men are, particularly the men around us, in our lives, and the men we're looking to attract. We deal in the reality of how we are, too.

I like a man who can lead. I'm not looking to be led in all aspects of my life.

I'm feminine. I prefer masculine men to androgynous ones. Do I think all women are happiest this way? I've seen for myself that they are not. Again, reality. But many women are happy this way, and to deny that is to take the blue pill and try to change others who do not need to be changed.

I don't limit myself in hopes of finding a man who espouses RP. I'm still a bleeding-heart liberal who works for a nonprofit and thinks that this is the best life in the world. I just want someone competent, someone who's a little more competent than me, so I'm not steamrolling the poor sod. Nothing's less attractive to me than a man willing to lay down and be walked on (both figuratively AND literally).

To paraphrase Alex Trebek, you've got to phrase your answers as questions. If you do that, you might find the humility necessary to understand someone who is not like you.

blushingoleander · 2023-05-05T16:52:47+00:00

Have you read the wiki? This does not read like you have an interest in being RPW but rather studying us. That might be why you aren't getting any responses.

ArkNemesis00 · 2023-05-05T16:59:03+00:00

Let the man lead, in practically all aspects of the relationship and life

I am responsible for a toddler and a baby 60+ hours a week. You best believe I value a partner who can decide where to go to dinner, how to invest our savings, and handles his side of the domestic labor without needing to be reminded.

You ever see women who complain that they have to care for their husband as if he was another of her children? Too much responsibility can be soul crushing. One feels like they're always in caretaker mode, worrying about what someone will need next and all the things you have to do. What RPW value is a competent partner who can take the lead and give her that chance to "clock out" after a day of work or kids. The degree to how often he will lead varies. But typically, the more one does something, the more competent and comfortable they become, so it's seen as unwise to let go of the reigns solely when you're at the point of exhaustion.

I hate this narrative that submission is somehow lesser or limiting. It's different. Think of ballroom dance - the man leads the women around the room through guided pressure on her hands and arms. But, to quote Ginger Rogers, women still do practically everything men do yet do it backwards and in heels. Being a good support is so much more than simply not leading. It's a valuable skill set that can brighten up so many relationship dynamics.

There exists natural divisions between the sexes and they should be exemplified and maintained

The more egalitarian a society, the larger the divisions in career choices for men and women. I don't believe every woman should be forced to do "women things", but I don't believe women's natural inclinations should be curtailed just because it's not what the men do. Same for men.

I believe the personality differences between men and women per the Big 5 model and such aren't too significant, but I think there's enough of a difference between the sexes to where we can gather an idea of typical male and female behavior. No man or woman will fit this mold completely, nor should they.

A RPW should dress and act for the role of RPW to ensure the attention of a RPM

Well, most RPW won't want a TRP man, because the former typically wants committed relationships and the latter typically wants casual sex.

Mate selection is competitive. No one is entitled to a great partner, and there is a much smaller supply than there is demand. To obtain a HVM/HVW, one should pay attention to what those people are looking for in a relationship, and model that where one can.

Maintain a femmine attractiveness through dress and speech (to the limit to make oneself look quiet, or shy, or even lacking intelligence)

People judge other people by their appearance, their actions, and their speech. That is a RP truth.

One can utilize this to their advantage by dressing in a way that attracts the attention they want, minimizes the attention they don't want, or gives off a certain vibe or aura that they'd like to embody.

I respond differently to my husband when he's wearing a suit, or a sweaty t-shirt, or nothing at all, and vice versa.

I believe there are a lot of aspects of human nature that contribute to this, such as our innate ability to spot patterns, our instinct to protect the smaller and respect the more powerful, and our appreciation for aesthetics.

TLDR: I don't think you're necessarily wrong, but I find your points lack nuance which suggests a subpar understanding of why RPW advises what it does. I object to the phrase "she (RPW) limits herself". No more than someone who has a job they love is limiting themselves from other options. Any choice is discriminatory by nature.

youllknowwhenitstime · 2023-05-05T19:45:03+00:00

I believe one of the mods is working on a guide-bible post to sticky to help folks like you out, but in the meantime the introductory material you REALLY want is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/wiki/index/tableofcontents/

You've got a bit of a mix in your four points. For example, something like "There exists natural divisions between the sexes" is a prerequisite belief within any RP sphere, and would be accurate, although I know of no RP philosophy who would say these divisions need "maintenance" - RP philosophies would likely say they're natural and will continue to exist whether they're fought against or not. I would finish that point instead as "operating with these divisions in mind is the most effective way to gain what you want in life". And pretty much all your points are like that: something about them is on the right track but so severely lacks refinement of concept that as stated they're not an accurate reflection of the RP tools being presented.

Reading the community posts will only give you an idea of what the community thinks. Honestly, when I first found this place a couple years ago, I was keen on the sidebar material but didn't personally care for the community at the time and never posted here. That's changed for me. We've had some good shifts IMO especially over the last few months in large part due to moderator efforts. But I'd still say you'll get a less refined impression from posts than from the wiki sidebar.

AutoModerator · 2023-05-05T13:36:01+00:00

Title: Understanding RPW

Full text: I'm trying to understand the RPW.

From reading through the posts and responses here, it is my understanding that a RPW seeks to be the submissive partner of an opposite sex relationship, and that she limits herself based on the assumption that the man fits the RPM doctrine.

Some beliefs/limitations/guidelines I've come across are:

Let the man lead, in practically all aspects of the relationship and life
There exists natural divisions between the sexes and they should be exemplified and maintained
A RPW should dress and act for the role of RPW to ensure the attention of a RPM
Maintain a femmine attractiveness through dress and speech (to the limit to make oneself look quiet, or shy, or even lacking intelligence)

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Careful-Ideal-7033 · 2023-05-07T17:17:20+00:00

Embracing your true nature is not a limitation.

Title	Understanding RPW
Author	Emerald_Pancakes
Upvotes	1
Comments	10
Date	May 5, 2023 1:36 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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