Be careful of subconscious programming-unplugging from the Matrix

wmat213 · 2018-06-23T22:48:55+00:00

Hey there, just something that came to my mind: I can't emphasize enough how important it is to be aware of your subconscious and how it works. If you...

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That's what they want you to believe.

Susceptibility to ads may be linked to emotional susceptibility, but I wouldn't be so sure about that. They have a century of research behind it now, with thousands highly intelligent psychology PhDs spending all their lives to create the perfect influence on the masses.

Maybe everyone has a different level of susceptibility, but no one is really safe.

Seriously, why do companies spend millions for a short commercial during Superbowl?

And remember the media people that market products aren't even the worst. The media people that market politics are way worse, and they have the same level of sophistication behind that.

Once you have developed even a tiny bit of a conservative or men's rights opinion, the media manipulation will suddenly feel like they're screaming in your face for daring to.

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Something that also comes to my mind when thinking about unplugging is unplugging from what the general population perceives to be as "true" or "science" ... so many people think that everything we think to "know" nowadays is ultimately true, and any theories that came before the theories of modern blue-pilled leftist scientists are wrong. Ejaculation and masturbation is healthy, porn as well, men are the horny gender, women are just as intelligent and physically strong as men, money is the key to happiness, races don't exist, religion makes you a worse person, women are gods and shall be treated like that etc. ... all these things are being promoted in nowadays society, but are generally false. Read books that are at least 40-50 years old, better even if they are a hundred of a few hundred years old. From famous psychologists like Freud to philosophers such as Schopenhauer, Kant, Nietzsche, or even Sun Tzu and Socrates. It will open your mind, and unplug you from the Zeitgeist.

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The term "leftist" or "left" frames the group of people I'm talking about pretty well. Certainly better than the term "socialist" or "liberal" would. (I'm a socialist as well, but nowhere near the left)

I thought that the only reliable marker of what is left wing as opposed to the centre and the right wing was the left's anti-capitalism. I'm aware of average people using "the left" and "the right" more broadly. In that case, I find it not acceptable to perpetuate that definition as it promotes divisive rhetoric. With one wing bashing the other. One interesting thing: How are you a socialist but nowhere near the left?

Why though?

The problematic aspect for me is the extrapolation of the present circumstances of identifiable racial groups (as vague as they are) to the juxtaposition of the perceived stereotypical characteristics of that collective group as also characteristic of a random individual deemed to be a part of that collective. Other than that, factual differences should be acknowledged if verified.

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"I thought that the only reliable marker of what is left wing as opposed to the centre and the right wing was the left's anti-capitalism. I'm aware of average people using "the left" and "the right" more broadly. In that case, I find it not acceptable to perpetuate that definition as it promotes divisive rhetoric. With one wing bashing the other. One interesting thing: How are you a socialist but nowhere near the left?"

Then our views on what's left and what's right differentiate, that's all. The left is, as I see it, the modern blue pill matrix political opinion, at least in most first world countries. If you're not left wing, you're out. Left wing subculltures dominate and have been dominating the entertainment industry, Hollywood, the music industry, the education system and even politics, which has just begun to change very recently with the right wing parties in Europe gaining popularity for example. (And even those parties are much better described as right to center than right wing extremists)

Left wingers believe that multiculturalism is the only way, there is only one race and it's called the human race, there is no culture better or richer in history than other cultures, white people are bad and racist and started slavery / owe anything to the darker races, there are no differences between the races (but at the same time they are pro affirmative action which puts white, hispanic and especially asian people at a disadvantage because they quietly believe black people are too stupid to make it themselves so they need programs which lower the standards exclusively for them, also "white" (European) people are exclusively evil, lol) they believe an unborn child is no life and can be terminated, 3, 5, 12, 72 genders or more exist, a guy who cuts off his penis and is mentally ill is automatically a woman, not calling mentioned man a woman is a crime to them, smoking weed and taking drugs is like totally fine cause like, muh freedom n shit, but refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding should be a felony.

So all in all, if you are guilty of believing two or more of these blue pill lies, you're on the left. It's quite commonly understood that definitions like left or right can vary, but it's also quite commonly understood that these views are commonly associated with the left. Just like they associate the right with swastika flag swinging Nazis that want to let black people starve. Only difference is that the the actual far right is a fringe group on 4chan and YouTube which is fairly small and almost never believes in what the left wing thinks they believe in, while the actual far left and far left believes are out there in Hollywood and everywhere in the real world, destroying the west, and they are just as bad as I mentioned, if not worse. Tl;dr: The left is dominant in culture, the right is not. Just as the Blue Pill is dominant to the Red Pill in sheer mass / numbers.

The vast majority of teachers are left-wing.

The vast majority of "scientists" are left wing as well, especially the so called "social scientists".

Truth knows no bias, no political belief, it's just itself. The blue pill is, in nowadays culture, mostly left leaning. Red Pillers and even PUA are being described as Neo-Nazis and far right movements by some media outlets despite having perfectly normal, almost mid to center kind of beliefs.

The problematic aspect for me is the extrapolation of the present circumstances of identifiable racial groups (as vague as they are) to the juxtaposition of the perceived stereotypical characteristics of that collective group as also characteristic of a random individual deemed to be a part of that collective. Other than that, factual differences should be acknowledged if verified.

Leave me alone with your juxtaposition (what the fuck is that even, a Pokémon or something?) and get to the point. You're an individualist, I get it. That doesn't mean races don't exist and that people from a certain race can't GENERALLY behave a certain way. Even in the most individualistic society you'll get groups that behave a certain way based on certain characteristics, one of them being race. The fairy tale of the individual is just that, a fairy tale. We're all part of groups, more or less, even though it might disturb your worldview. Doesn't mean you can't be different from a certain group (e.g. a east asian individual commiting crimes) but it won't change the reality that in general east asians rarely commit any crimes.

There are factual differences. 85\% of black americans vote democrat. The vast majority of rich blacks still vote democrat, opposed to rich whites. There are racial differences in every aspect of our lives, from education to crime rates to what we eat and even how we socialize. Race is real.

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I agree with your criticism of "the left". I guess this is the most common definition now. I will just call it modern (social) liberalism. You left one question unanswered. Are you socialist? If so, what kind?

Leave me alone with your juxtaposition (what the fuck is that even, a Pokémon or something?)

I misused that word perhaps.

Let's talk about race. It is reasonable to say that there exist differences between racial groups and certain races can generally act similarly. I am not uncomfortable with facts like certain races having lower IQs overall. Those are scientific facts that should be accepted. My question is: Of what use are those facts? Okay, Arabs have lower IQs, say, and blacks vote left more. What to do with that information? The answer should not be treating a race as superior or inferior. Or discrimination. That's all.

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> Let's talk about race. It is reasonable to say that there exist differences between racial groups and certain races can generally act similarly. I am not uncomfortable with facts like certain races having lower IQs overall. Those are scientific facts that should be accepted. My question is: Of what use are those facts? Okay, Arabs have lower IQs, say, and blacks vote left more. What to do with that information? The answer should not be treating a race as superior or inferior. Or discrimination. That's all.

It's great that thus far we agree at least on the reality of race. Many people are too blue pilled to even acknowledge biological facts nowadays, so thank you for your honesty. Also thank you for using your brain. Both rare traits nowadays.

Other than that: These facts are very useful for politics and your everyday life alike.

If you want a better future for your children (like me) and you acknowledge the big IQ (not to mention cultural) differences between the races, you might want to think twice about letting 2 million "refugees" in, as Germany did a few years ago. Maybe returning to the old status quo (100-200 years back) when foreigners were not existing in Europe might not be that bad of an idea? And by that I don't mean removing every foreigner that lives in Europe (except for the parasites of the recent manufactured crisis maybe) but just closing the borders, doing it like Japan, would be enough. They are 99% homogenous and you can still go there to travel, you can still live and work there if you're qualified and you really want to. They won't make it easy for you like they do in Europe, that's all.

Believing in the differences of races (which aren't solely based on IQ and culture, but go even further, even behaviour is different and some races are naturally more / less aggressive than others) makes 2 million africans comming to your developed first world country sound like a bad idea, because it is a bad idea.

If you take into account the higher birth rates of these low IQ and mostly uncultured people, you'll quickly begin to see the problem: They'll breed away the better culture and more intelligent races (better genetic material) and therefore destroy their civilisations + slow the progress of humanity immensely and last but not least make an entire race disappear.

Now, in your everyday life, everyone has biases. Some might admit to them, others won't because of fear of being called a racist or whatever, but everyone has them. One of these "biases" is to notice the difference of genders and general behaviour. There are 3 women on the street and it's night time. Are you afraid? Of course not. Now reverse their gender and you'll see how it suddenly becomes a more threatening situation. Same goes for races. If you see 3 asian men walking towards during night time, you are significantly more likely to be save than if you saw 3 black men comming towards you. Statistics (crime rates) prove that. So race is relevant here, too. Even purple pilled "culture not race" Israel loving cucks like Crowder admit that this is true.

This is all a metapolitical question, above politics, policies and alike. If you don't want the greatest civilisations in this world to go extinct, you will have to deal with facts about race and you will have to have a certain race realism.

I'm for the same solution to that problem everywhere by the way. I want India to stay indian, just like I want Sweden to stay swedish and China to stay chinese. Only one of these countries currently has a problem with that though. That's why we all need to act now. Race realism is the only way to go. Because I enjoy differences. I don't want a spanish India or a indian UK, or an arab Sweden. I want the natives to be present and dominating in their homelands. Just like they are in every other part of the world.

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Also thank you for using your brain.

The most real compliment.

I already agree that letting large numbers of immigrants into a country is a big mistake. I am in favour of immigration being allowed but controlled to only let those people in who will be of benefit to the country. Japan is a fine example.

the differences of races (which aren't solely based on IQ and culture, but go even further, even behaviour is different and some races are naturally more / less aggressive than others)

I want to understand this further.

They'll breed away the better culture and more intelligent races (better genetic material) and therefore destroy their civilisations + slow the progress of humanity immensely and last but not least make an entire race disappear.

An interesting perspective that has to be considered.

One of these "biases" is to notice the difference of genders and general behaviour. There are 3 women on the street and it's night time. Are you afraid? Of course not. Now reverse their gender and you'll see how it suddenly becomes a more threatening situation.

Makes sense. As women will be perceived as non-threatening. Let me see. Even though there may be aggressive powerful women in existence, the collective sex will be treated a certain way. Does that apply to races too? To an extent, yes. Do you acknowledge that a certain share of crime in African-Americans is a result of their poorer socio-economic status overall, and not completely a meritocratic result of their greater proclivity to crime, if any?

Even purple pilled "culture not race" Israel loving cucks

What do you mean here?

Because I enjoy differences. I don't want a spanish India or a indian UK, or an arab Sweden. I want the natives to be present and dominating in their homelands. Just like they are in every other part of the world.

That will be good. There is one problem. The current age is capitalistic. Unless you remove capitalism, globalisation is inevitable, nation-states will become less powerful, borders will deteriorate. Look at the capitalist elite.

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I want to understand this further.

There is this certain gene called (IIRC) "OPRM1" that is considered to be responsible for aggression and the will to "expand" (their territory) of certain races. Every sixth arab has this gene, every 20th african, and only one out of 1 million chinese people. There are also medium and low aggression genes. The vast majority of Chinese have the medium aggressive gene, which name I did forget, and I think Europeans are mixed in these aggression genes but have the low and medium aggression genes rather than OPRM1. OPRM1 is very rare in Europe as well, though not as rare as in China. So much about aggression. There are tons of other differences in genes that lead to certain behaviour. Biology is fascinating but complex and I am nothing but a mere rookie in these regards, so I won't be able to educate you much further.

Do you acknowledge that a certain share of crime in African-Americans is a result of their poorer socio-economic status overall, and not completely a meritocratic result of their greater proclivity to crime, if any?

As long as we can agree on the fact that they are more likely to commit crime - whether they are poor or not - yes, I can acknowledge that. My grandma was very, very poor after the war (I am from Germany) and she didn't commit any crimes even though she knew what hunger was and was starving a lot. That's mostly because of her low aggression genes, probably.

What do you mean here?

People like Steven Crowder are only half "woke". They refuse to admit that the US is controlled by Israel and starts war with their enemies everywhere they go (especially in the middle east) and therefore is partly responsible for the massive influx of refugees into Europe. For people like Crowder, jews are perfectly innocent and never do anything wrong, all blame is on the muslims and "anti-americans" such as Germans who don't want US military bases in their homeland, not on those who actually sent those muslims to Europe by starting war with them and then getting their "big brother" (USA) to beat them up. Purple is the colour that results in the mixing of red and blue. (Reference to the "Red" and "Blue" pill, hence purple pill) cause he agrees mass muslim migration might be a problem for Europe (red pill), he just refuses to see the connections / reasons why this might be happening (blue pill).

For a fact, Israel tried to spread pornography through TV programs back in 2002 right before invading Palestine. That alone shows the sick and degrading tactics they're using in order to win.

That will be good. There is one problem. The current age is capitalistic. Unless you remove capitalism, globalisation is inevitable, nation-states will become less powerful, borders will deteriorate. Look at the capitalist elite.

It is a good point. I used to be an ultra-capitalist when I was in my libertarian phase during my mid-teens. Like most kids. Then I grew up. I'm not a huge fan of capitalism, especially not the kind of rampant capitalism that shits on the environment and everything just in order to make profit. There are more important things than money and unlimited growth is impossible. Or, as my Dad likes to say: The only thing that grows non-stop is cancer.

I'd describe myself as a classical national socialist. The kind of guy the jews have been trying to get rid of for over 80 years now. My opinion is illegal here, I could get a jail sentence for it. That alone is reason enough to be who I am.

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And here you are, sucking down the religious dogma koolaid.

Religion itself doesn't make you a bad person, but it sure as fuck can be used to justify any atrocity you can dream up. How do we know that? Because it fucking has been used to do exactly that. It's not based in reality, it's bronze age desert nomad stories that make a shit attempt at explaining why it rains and the earth shakes. Then they realized they could control people with it, and of course they go for your base instincts and claiming it's a sin to look at pussy lustfully.

Being raised to feel guilty about everything sexual, having been repressed and told it's dirty, is the root fucking cause why you sad little fucks are susceptible to wanking so much your dick gets sore and stops working. You're getting away with something, and that's a rush for your sequestered mind, then you feel guilty about it and that leads to more wanking.

The only guys I know who have had a problem with jerking off have been the ones raised in the children of the corn cults like baptists, pentecostals, mormons, and pretty much any evangelical faith healing snake handling falling down and shaking in church for validation when not babbling for an audience religious sect.

The red pill reference is about your fucking religion just as much as it's about you being lied to regarding girls and feminism. They're both dogmatic cults, not based in reality, and they use the exact same tactics to defend themselves and propagate. It's just as much a fairy tale that girls can do everything we can do as it is that some Jewish carpenter became a lich over a weekend to absolve you from something you never had in the first place.

Races do exist, there are differences among them, but it's utterly stupid to focus on it because we all came from the same area in Africa, over a few mass migrations caused by the climate changing allowing people to move to northern regions where they needed less melanin due to less ultra violet radiation in the north. Facial differences are due to mating selection, not due to some tower of babble bullshit. Variations happen, humans adapt to the environment and over enough generations you get light and dark skin people.

Holy fuck you guys have to be coming from some back woods Florida snake churches to not grasps simple concept like that. Is your family tree a fucking sapling?

Reality is not globalization. It's not leftist nor conservative, it's not racist, it's fucking reality. Jesus titty fucking christ you rail about not being told what to think, and to think for yourself, and yet here you are looking at the world through the lens of ideologues and zealots that was handed to you and you accepted it like a thirsty man getting a glass of piss. You aren't the only one who knows the truth, shit kid you barely know anything.

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Exmormon. Unlike the prophetic story of Muhammad, the prophetic story of Joseph Smith is historically verifiable to be loaded with false claims. The scriptures Joseph smith produced can be shown quite conclusively to be fiction. Whereas with Muhammad it’s only speculation and opinion.

But I don’t know man, the Quran just speaks to me. I don’t really buy the atheist claims that human life just emerged from nothingness and is entirely purposeless. Psychedelic drugs make me doubt this. I’ve had prayer experiences which make me doubt this. Watching our society deteriorate into biblical level derangement makes me doubt this.

I suspect there is a supreme authority, we just don’t understand his whole plan. And Islam, while culturally outdated, has been the peak of world civilization and influenced billions of lives. You’re telling me that’s all just a meaningless chance occurrence? That this guy could claim to have a prophetic calling and it actually becomes a massive civilization — and it’s purely due to the randomness of events?

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I am a born Muslim by the way. That doesn't lend any bias in my thinking however. I will adopt the scientific/rationalist mode of thought when arguing with you in order to see if belief can be justified in the face of reason. I assert that continued agnosticism (which tends to be atheistic) will make more sense for you.

Whereas with Muhammad it’s only speculation and opinion.

If you go over to the exmuslim subreddit, some of them may be able to provide a strong counterpoint.

I don’t really buy the atheist claims that human life just emerged from nothingness

That is not an atheistic claim. Evolutionary biology does not come under its domain. Investigation of the beginning of life is left to the scientists. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in (a) God(s)/deity(-ies).

and is entirely purposeless.

That is an existential nihilist claim. If you disagree, don't be a nihilist. Simple. Have you listened to Jordan Peterson?

If you think there is a supreme authority, that makes you a theist, as opposed to atheist.

And Islam, while culturally outdated, has been the peak of world civilization and influenced billions of lives. You’re telling me that’s all just a meaningless chance occurrence?

Islam-influenced cultures, yes, probably were the peak of civilisation in the early Middle Ages. So, do you think that there has to be a divine reason for that? What about the Greek gods in Ancient Greece or the Romans gods in the Roman Empire? Or even Christianity in Europe and beyond, and Hinduism and its derivatives for thousands of years in South and Southeast Asia.

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I don’t think I’ll get beyond agnosticism towards it. However it is way too easily dismissed, considering that it’s a major phenomenon of world history. It turned a bunch of rando primitive Arab tribes into a world conquering civ and the peak of world civ for centuries. Obviously it hasn’t aged well. Religions go stale, even if they may have been true.

But at this point in my life I’m too much of a rationalist to make a leap of faith into a belief system. Especially after leaving Mormonism (a religion that is still youthful and fairly modern compared to Islam), and seeing how the leap of faith Mormons take lead them into a delusional worldview. So once you get burned like that, it seriously hinders your ability to fully embrace a faith based system in the future.

But I think the casual dismissals that Islam is nothing but a purely human phenomenon are rather smug.

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I don’t think I’ll get beyond agnosticism towards it.

But at this point in my life I’m too much of a rationalist to make a leap of faith into a belief system.

Understandable. You previously said that "I am inclined to believe in it".

But I think the casual dismissals that Islam is nothing but a purely human phenomenon are rather smug.

Elaborate on what you mean by it not being merely human.

Obviously it hasn’t aged well. Religions go stale, even if they may have been true.

They have to avoid too much rigidity. Religious leaders have the responsibility to not let religious tradition become irrelevant with societal progress and technological progress.

It turned a bunch of rando primitive Arab tribes into a world conquering civ and the peak of world civ for centuries.

More or less. However, the same region saw the Sumerians, the Akkadians and the Assyrians build a civilisation before.

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Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean polygamy, than no, that ended in mainstream Mormonism a century ago. The only groups that still do that are highly insular, culty fringe fundamentalists.

There’s another statistic tho that among single young Mormons (in 20s), there are 3 single women for every 2 single men (not 1). I left in my late teens tho and never attended what are called singles wards. Mormons have different congregations for single youth college age and up. These are distinct from the normal majority family wards.

In other words, I only ever went to the normal family congregations I was raised in (where there’s no difference in sex ratio), never to the singles congregations when I came of age. I just left the religion. So I have no personal experience of that stat, which only applies to the singles wards. But I have no reason to doubt it. It makes sense. I guess having left I’m a contributor to that stat.

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Good day to you too, sir.

You've come up with lots of bad words, but little to no arguments.

Religion gives your life purpose and meaning. Whether or not there actually is a god or even several of them is absolutely irrelevant to my point. My point is that meaning and ideals are what nowadays blue pill society despises. There is no truth, there is no "right" or "wrong", there is nothing real. Only relativism reigns. If I stab you or not, who actually cares? If I rape that child or not, what does it matter? Rapists are people too! And so are pedophiles! We're all humans and one race after all, so we're all the same aren't we?

It's that kind of relativism, that leads to the blue pill of taking drugs, watching the same TV shows, listening to the same music as anyone else, without having anything to live for other than utter hedonism. It destroys young people. It's degeneracy at its finest.

You fail to see the potential of religion. If everyone had values, if everyone lived by religious principles, the world would be a better place. Now on the other hand: If everyone had no values at all we'd sink in chaos.

Or better said, degeneracy. Prime example: Modern west.

Your guilt theory about masturbation is interesting but wrong. It's not because of a social stigma attached to it. Sounds a lot like women saying there is no objective beauty, only social constructs that make us believe XYZ is beautiful. Sounds cute but it's absolutely false.

If your theory is true, then please tell me, why are especially atheists susceptible to choking the chicken all day long and becoming autistic weirdos who hang out on fetish porn sites 24/7? They don't believe in any god, they never did, they were raised agnostically or by atheists, yet most porn addicts are atheists, and from my experience they have the worst problems with masturbation. The kind of nerd with glasses and tons of nervous diseases from fapping all day long sitting in the library at your local uni, that guy is most likely an atheist. And that's not even me claiming that, statistics prove it. Just look at your average NoFap member. They still feel guilty about what they did. Why is that? Social stigma? They were raised agnostic or by atheists. The answer goes deeper than that. It's most likely in their DNA. White people report way more guilt associated with the usage of porn and masturbation than all other ethnic groups. Blacks for example still can get addicted to porn, but it doesn't make them feel guilty if they rub one out once in a while. Entirely different for whites. Also, the researcher Gary Wilson [rebutted all of your claims in a previous video and actually reinforces mine.](https://youtu.be/ZLtSoWrEplM?t=4576) don't take it from me, take it from one of the leading experts in porn addiction. You're welcome.

I'll ignore the rest of your little atheist rant and move on.

The claim that all humans originated from Africa is actually debatable, but I won't focus on that because it doesn't really matter that much anyways. That's been millions of years ago and we're talking about race in the present.

Dumbing race down to skin colour is another mistake blue pilled and uninformed red pilled people make from time to time. It's no crime because propaganda about the "one race" (human race) and us all being the same has been present for easily 60 years. Even old people are brainwashed by that nonsense. You can't go out and expect youngsters to see through these lies, even though some do. I happen to be one of them.

Race is as relevant as it gets, because it can be proven that a simple factor such as race can determine who you vote for, how likely it is that you're engaged in crimes, and even who you breed with. Look for any statistics about any ethnic groups voting pattern and you'll see that they differentiate immensely. So sorry to disappoint you, but race is the single greatest factor in finding out whether or not you will stab me / vote democrat. Even more accurate than wealth / education. In the US black people commit most murders and vote 85% democrat. (East) Asian people are known for being a low crime population everywhere they go. Women are more likely to vote left than men. And so on. Race is just as relevant (I'd argue even more so) than gender or wealth / education. You're wrong.

I've never claimed that I am the only one who knows the truth. I have not even claimed that I know anything. The stuff I'm telling you here is basic shit, stuff every teenager should know.

Other than that really I see nothing to refute here because your only argument seems to be coitus. Also, you seem kind of angry dude, take a chill pill and think about this stuff for some time. Appreciated.

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If you actually read Nietzsche you’d understand there is no actual purpose to life other than what you ascribe it it. Don’t glorify him then shit on everything he says. You sound like an ultra-religious, ultra-conservative nut who’s panicking about decline of moral standards. The red pill is a toolbox for guys to manipulate and fuck women- nothing wrong with that because it’s the game everyone plays, but again don’t act like you care about morality when this sub is amoral- game is amoral- you’re ranting about race when basic sociological knowledge would mean you understand that race is a socio-economic issue. Yeah most crime is committed by black people against other black people. Of course they commit crime, they’re in impoverished areas. If you had any knowledge of sociology you’d also acknowledge the very obvious racial and class discrimination in school systems, with white working class boys being the worst, followed by black boys. There are systems that punish certain groups before they’re even able to write a fucking story.

Get off your high horse complaining about how “omg guys society is crumbling look at all this science and understanding and natural progression, we need to go back to where women weren’t allowed out of the house and the negroes were kept as sharecroppers”. Grow the fuck up, play the game and stop complaining.

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There's a definitive objective reality bit all too often we slap labels on phenomena forming our own narrative because it's the easy and comfortable thing to do.

A mountain is but an aggregation of rocks and soil suspended at x altitude above sea level.

Colors are little more than varying light refractions as defined by the observer which no two people perceive as exactly the same due to differences in eye development. Do I know if theses to definitions are absolute and some scientist will turn both concepts flat on their heads in the future? No. Those ideas are just the ones that are widely accepted at the moment just as people once thought of flat Earth as a reality.

These phenomena are more illusory than anything but that's besides point. The point is that people are quick to adopt thoughts and concepts that have a consensus irrespective of whether it makes any semblance of sense to internalize or propagate because that's the path of least resistance that involves the least effort.

Is there variance within the human species? Only a moron would say no but to what degree can they be categorized and packaged into "nice neat little boxes" before deviating for from reality into the realm of ideological propaganda? Into fantasy that people blindly accept without questioning because they've been conditioned to? No place of mine to say.

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Biology and millions of years of evolution are irrelevant, then we could talk about whether or not race is a concept made up by anyone.

My point is that all this shit is an abstraction when one stops and thinks about it. The biological narrative is that people separated from Pangea and gradually "adapted" not evolve to take on the respective phenotypes fitting for the environments they willingly or unwillingly chose to inhabit. "African phenotypes" adapted to have more melanin to covert solar radiation into vitamin D whereas Europeans gradually lost their melanation but developed a cultural sense of ingenuity to develop technologies that make adapting to northern climes easier and the physical characteristics to match.

All this stuff about humans being on the Earth for millions or billions is years is no more than a theory that people pedestalize because we as a species know so little about thr Earth we inhabit. As such "we" compartmentalize and categorize every little tidbit of our human experience so we can feel "safe" and "comfortable" in this strange floating mass we call Earth, including our own species.

I don't anything for certain but I am semnsible enough to know that human beings can live a little beyond 100yrs of the rarest of instances at the most. That being the case any claiming with certainty that humans have existed for millions is full of it. Really now what makes people so certain? Radiation from rocks?! Hilarious!

Politically, not biologically, the ideological categories of "race" makes sense as it neatly boxes people into different groups. When divided people are easier to pit against each for the sake of control or governance no different than the Democratic and Republican parties of the US. Two diametrically opposing sides on the surface that represent the same socialist oligarchy pulling the strings of the public. Think what you will.

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I'll pose to you a series of questions. What defines race? The way a person looks? Let's go with this. So let's say someone has a wide nose with dark skin. That makes them Black, right? Okay, ok. So now lets say this person's Great grandmother on their mother's side was European, their Grandfather on their father's side is Cuban and their mother is Native American while their father has traces of West Indian Taino and West African ancestry in their bloodline. What is this person? Black?

Okay, okay. Let's take a look at another person. Someone whose entire mother's lineage is European lets say Icelandic and she met a Carribean man she shaked up with and had said person of interest. This person is Black too despite the mother's definitive European ancestry?

Ohh well what about the Japanese? Well what if someone was seemingly of ancient decent but somewhere in the tree a Great seven times over Grandmother boned a German those since then every mating pair was purely Japanese. Surely this person must be White, right?

Makes so much sense doesn't it? Because race has so much of a basis in reality.

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Feel free to call checkmate after reading this draft from the Executive Board of the American Anthropological Association dated back to May 17, 1998:

In the United States both scholars and the general public have been conditioned to viewing human races as natural and separate divisions within the human species based on visible physical differences. With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, however, it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic "racial" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within "racial" groups than between them. In neighboring populations there is much overlapping of genes and their phenotypic (physical) expressions. Throughout history whenever different groups have come into contact, they have interbred. The continued sharing of genetic materials has maintained all of humankind as a single species.

Source:http://www.americananthro.org/ConnectWithAAA/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=2583

Need I find more for being so lazy? Check.

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In the United States both scholars and the general public have been conditioned to viewing human races as natural and separate divisions within the human species based on visible physical differences. With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, however, it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups.

You've conveniently ignored these two points in bold and the fact that the term "race" in this draft is specifically parenthesized.

Just because one is of African Descent doesn't necessarily mean that they're "Black" like the South African owner of Amazon. His name eludes me at the moment. Just as one was born in Europe doesn't necessarily mean that they're "White" like Edris Alba for instance.

There is nothing synonymous between cultural heritage and "race" as you seem to imply since the "human race" is a melting pot of genetic ambiguity.

Note: Africans and European aren't races they're labels attached to peoples born of said regions.

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Whatever that text says does not refute millions of years of biology. Again, the "one world concept", the concept that human races do not exist is a new and outlandish claim made by a very small minority and spread thorought the planet as propaganda. It does not stand up to any scrutiny, whether it's biological data, sociological data, or common sense. Everything we currently got tells us that races exist and there are internal and external differences between them.

That being said: I don't know who you are talking about, but the owner of Amazon, Jeff Bezos, is not from South Africa but from the US. His specific genes are unknown to me, but a simple look proves that he's not of african descent.

Dutch people wandering off to Africa to get children there are still dutch. Nationality /=/ Ethnicity. Therefore South Africans with Dutch ancestors who are completely and 100% white / European exist. Not rocket science, primary school children would get that, not sure why I need to explain that to you.

You are not European just because you were born in Europe, same as you are not German just because you were born in Germany. Your nationality might be German-but that's nothing but a paper that can literally say anything. I could also create my own nationality and call myself an alien. Doesn't mean I actually am one. Paper doesn't alter biology.

Ethnicity, race, is not a coat that you can just conveniently put on and off. It's something you are born with and can't change no matter how hard you try, like height.

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They are "simply" (actually rather complex, depending on their different ethnicities) mixed-race. I don't know where the consensus is on who's actually mixed-race, because everyone acknowledges that almost everyone is "mixed-race" to a certain extend, but I'd say if there are clear characteristics of several very distinguishable races, for example your mom was half black and half white and your dad completely white, that would definitely make you mixed-race. Now "black" and "white" are also kind of inaccurate terms as there are so many "white" (european) races ... it's generally agreed upon that whiteness stops with the greeks. Some consider greeks as white, others don't. It's a big debate in the community. Turkish and middle easterners are definitely not white. Jews are not white. Greeks are debatable, the rest of Europe is white. A very interesting case are the russians who lived or are still living at the border to Mongolia. They are definitely white to a certain extend, but they are also not rarely asian, as the mongols invaded and probably raped lots of russian women about 1200-800 years ago, resulting in the blood type AB which is very rare worldwide and especially common in North Korea, South Korea and Japan (over 10% of the population) which is interesting as this probably indicates (and I might be totally wrong here so don't take me too serious, it's my own conclusion) that 10% of east asians do have european influences / genes in their gene pool, because the blood type AB can only exist if you have asian (mongolian) and european ancestors. Also kind of interesting as you've probably seen European women and men with an epicanthic fold, they are very likely to have the blood type AB, at least from my experience.

So TL;DR: Not everyone is flat out "white" or "black" ... there are many in-betweens actually and race is complex. What I'm telling you here is entry-level shit, there are people so deeply involved you wouldn't understand a proper sentence they say. It's actually "rocket science", once you go deeper that is. I myself still know very little.

Edit: Nevermind my thesis, it was lacking lots of research, I'm just starting to get into this. 30% of japanese have blood type B, but 30% of them have the blood type A as well, doesn't mean that 30% of them have european influences, wouldn't make sense considering how homogenous they are. So my thesis is wrong. I'd still say Europeans with an epicanthic fold are more likely to have blood type AB than others. Only about 25% of them though, which is still significantly more than in the general population (about 3%) but still not nearly everyone, because the children of Mother A and Father B or Father A and Mother B can inherit ALL blood types, from 0 to AB, A or B as well. So TL;DR an asian-european mix is more likely to have blood type AB than the general population but we can't really say that every european with an epicanthic fold belongs to the blood group AB. Would've been too easy.

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Actuallly all I hear is people talking about money. Money here, money there. Fucking bitches, making money. That's all there is to life for so many people. Oh and taking drugs of course. Did I mention choking the chicken?

A good salary can be beneficial, of course. I'm not telling people to give up all their money and be homeless. That's BS and will make most people miserable. I'm just saying that money is secondary. Wealth is like sex. It's nice to have it, you shouldn't need it to be happy, and you should be able to live without it.

That being said, people are generally happier if they have a good income. Still wouldn't advise anyone to ever consider giving up their health for money. It's a very stupid trade. Also, never make money your main focus in life. It's just as mundane and irrelevant as sex after a while. You need to have ideals, a higher aim.

First of all work on self-developement. Most of the stuff you are proud about should come from yourself. If you look great, are strong and capable, have a great body, are highly cultivated and intelligent, well-dressed, knowledgeable and well-mannered and know what you want, your chance of being unhappy is very, very low. Money plays little to no part in this. As long as you have enough to afford clothes and a place to live at you're good to go, most of the times at least. If money is really that important to you go for it, but as I said, making money your aim in life, or putting it too high on the list will not be beneficial at all, even though that's what the blue pill tells you to do. Career first, everything else second. Especially women get brainwashed into this idea nowadays and it's sickening to watch. Women can't see through this programming as well as men can. They rather follow examples than to question things themselves. It's a shame.

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A good salary can be beneficial, of course. I'm not telling people to give up all their money and be homeless. That's BS and will make most people miserable. I'm just saying that money is secondary. Wealth is like sex. It's nice to have it, you shouldn't need it to be happy, and you should be able to live without it.

A person will be a lot happier if they are rich because they have the FREEDOM to do what they want, instead of working away at a 9 to 5 job, that might be sucking their soul away. Please, don't give me the money isn't important to be happy BS. Society wants you to not have enough money to say "f*** you, I'm not working anymore"

Try being happy struggling to pay the bills, having to live with roommates to afford rent, or not have enough in savings should you lose your job to last a number of months. Your financial security plays a big role in how happy you are. The person who is truly financially secure is going to be a lot happier than the person who is constantly stressing about money and can't enjoy life because they don't have enough of it.

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Exactly. They want you to make enough money to survive and be able to spend money, but not enough to be financially free. It’s why I find those studies that talk about how “happiness doesn’t increase after a certain salary” complete BS. The system has been rigged to try and keep people slaving away. They want you to feel guilty for want to make and have more money.

Most people, including myself don’t have enough money. You know how I know that? The reason I know that is because if most people, including myself got fired/laid off/quit their job, they would run out of money at a certain point if they don’t find another job. Whether it be 3 months, six months or a year. It’s why I want to make more money, invest that money and grow my net worth. Not because I’m greedy, but because I don’t have enough money to be free. That’s what society doesn’t tell you.

That’s why I focus on earning and not just saving. I’m trying to produce more income in my job, or through investments and other sources.

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unplugging from what the general population perceives to be as "true" or "science"

everything we think to "know" nowadays is ultimately true, and any theories that came before the theories of modern blue-pilled leftist scientists are wrong.

Read books that are at least 40-50 years old, better even if they are a hundred of a few hundred years old. From famous psychologists like Freud to philosophers such as Schopenhauer, Kant, Nietzsche, or even Sun Tzu and Socrates. It will open your mind, and unplug you from the Zeitgeist.

You're brainwashed and should unplug yourself from the alt-right, alternative-media and probably TRP too (at least in it's non- m-f part).

First of all, science DOES know a shitload more about almost everything than we did 40-50 years ago. Most of the things science knows know is true b/c it's supported by evidence we gathered. Your typical antiliberal dogmatism from Molyneux, Crowder or Bereitbar lacks 3 things: context (masturbation is good - yes it is, b/c apparently ejaculations prevent prostate cancer; masturbation is bad - yes it its, b/c ejaculation lowers T levels), understanding of what marketing is (nobody is going to bother writing 100-thousandth article confirming global warming, but hey - here's some misconstrued quotemining about how apparently scientists changed the data) and understanding of intention (MSM will push in favour of global warming, alt-media will push against it - and none of them really cares about what science says, it's all about narrative pushing).

The authors you mentioned have NOTHING to do with actual hard science you wrote above. They are philosophers, thinkers, psychologists, some of them base their books on PURELY esoteric and parapsychological concepts. I'm not saying don't read them. I'm saying don't treat them as a source of ANY scientific knowledge.

BTW: out of 3 parts of the Zeitgeist, all 3 have been debunked.

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Hello,

I'm not watching Molyneux and think he's wrong on lots of stuff, even though he's right about single moms.

I am not subscribed to Steven Crowder and find him to be dishonest in his debates. He does not represent my opinion.

Who is Bereitbar?

Ejaculation goes way deeper than that. It's "good" because it apparently prevents prostata cancer (which is debatable) it's not just "bad" because it only lowers testosterone, it does way more than that. Too many ejaculations in a short period of time are the cause for nervous diseases, the skinnyfat bodytype + kind of meth-addict look most nerds have, and autistic / weird behaviour through the guilt that masturbation induces (assuming these nerds aren't just having sex with actual women 24/7, then that guilt aspect would vanish of course)

I would rather treat them (great philosophers) as the source of my knowledge than professors and "scientists" (leftist blue pillers) pushing their own agenda.

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"Your subconscious mind accepts what is impressed upon it or what you consciously believe. It does not reason things out as your conscious mind does, and it does not argue with you controversially. Your subconscious mind is like a bed of soil that accepts any kind of seed, good or bad. Your thoughts are active; they are the seeds. Negative, destructive thoughts continue to work negatively in your subconscious mind. Sooner or later, it will emerge and take shape as an outer experience that corresponds to theiir content.

Remember; your subconscious mind does not engage in proving whether your thoughts are good or bad, true or false. It responds according to the nature of your thoughts or suggestions. For example, if you consciously believe something to be true, even though it may be false, your subconscious mind will accept it as true and proceed to bring about results that must necessarily follow BECAUSE you consciously assumed it to be true." -Joseph D. Murphy, The Power of Your Subconscious Mind, pg 16-17.

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I drive a lot when working. I have a commercial radio station on as background noise. After a while you start noticing how devious current popular music culture is. Almost all male singer songs are beta to the max. Stuff like: I love you, I'm not worthy, You're so beautiful, wonderful, awesome, perfect, etc, etc. Then the female singers are pretty much exclusively slut propaganda turned up to 12: You can't have none of this, I fuck so many dudes I can't walk straight, I don't want no scrubs, I don't need no man, yadayadayada... (They) are brainwashing the youth. Music and television (Sex & The City was especially catastrophic) have done tremendous damage to gender relations. Women ARE more susceptible to these things. Lately (Vigilant Christian touched upon this) there have been a disturbing trend in increasing the violence towards men in music videos. Many being straight up murdered for no reason at all. Because feminism... or something I guess.

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Title	Be careful of subconscious programming-unplugging from the Matrix
Author	wmat213
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Date	June 23, 2018 10:48 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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