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[–]Koryphae_74 points75 points76 points 9 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
I do not get it. Why do you associate with a person like this? You hope to see him change or? What are you gaining from that relationship with your friend?
[–]Cozzafrenz points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Its just some kid i've known forever.
To be honest, i've been slowly cutting off people from my life over the past few years, down to the point where I have very few friends compared to my younger days when I used to be very popular and well liked. He's next on the bucket. He offers me nothing, and I'm done with people who can't even hold themselves to certain standards or have any self respect. Its one less friend, but he won't be missed.
[–]Koryphae_11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Great stuff man, I am currently in the purging state of my social circle as well. I have been around TRP for couple of months only, but truth be told, I felt a few years back already that some of my 'so-called-friends' are holding me back. When I stumbled upon the quote that 'you are what your 5 closest friends are' and also 'surround yourself with people who are more successful than you', it really hit me hard. Right now I am trying to convince some of my friends to build habits, start making something out of their lives but I am gradually releasing my pressure on them if they are not capable of change.
[–]theONE843663[🍰] 22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I invited 10 people to the gym 2 years ago for a group workout (dochebag thing to do but whatever) and 2 people came... The skinniest bastard, and the fat slob. I'm like....Okayyy why tf not.
2 years later both are decent looking and are on their way to success. They are also very good buddies of mine now we often sarge at the local clubs.
[–]SmoothestLawyer 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This puts a smile on my face.
[–]tirmanadir9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
'surround yourself with people who are more successful than you'
If everyone followed that advice, no one would have any friends or acquaintances.
[–]asotranq3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Success is multidirectional.
[–]tirmanadir2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you try to surround yourself only with people more successful than you and they do too, then they're gonna avoid you and instead try to be around people more successful than them, who'll avoid them for the same reasoning, and so on.
[–]asotranq5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What I'm saying is that you may be more successful than them one way and they you another. Therefore you can both learn from each other simultaneously.
[–]1OneRedYear2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is literally the way it works in the real world. Until you do something to prove that you are worth their time, they politely shun you. I recently got promoted to department head, I started doing great work and successfully dealing with a few tough situations and also increasing revenue. Now the upper managers are a lot more friendly and have been inviting me to things outside of work. Also I never tried to kiss up or glob on to them before they deemed me worthy. I just did my best and was friendly and they started coming to me.
I produce and shoot movies as a hobby and I have a buddy who's tried to glob on to every filmmaker in the area to get on board, its obvious that he just wants to use other peoples resources and weasel his way in. They avoid him like the plague. I made a few short films, I actively have discussions about film and solicit advice from other local filmmakers and now I have people asking me to shoot or edit their films. But I had to do the work of doing my own thing and making consistent progress and contacts. Those higher up noticed eventually and now I'm hanging out with people more successful than me.
[–]Apocapoca4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Would you rather be friends with someone who has no drive and no motivation? Lazy person who plays games and watches TV shows all day, only getting up to work a shitty job till they get back home and waste away?
Or would you rather be friends with someone who leads an active, healthy lifestyle, is full of positive energy whom is always encouraging you to take the next step and never settle for second best?
[–]tirmanadir8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
way to miss the point entirely.
[–]Koryphae_-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Care to explain why would you morph my statement into an algebraic problem instead of trying to grasp the concept itself? /u/Apocapoca actually hit the point, you just are bitter about it for whatever reason.
[–]tirmanadir4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Uh, no. I didn't morph it into anything. The concept of what you said is fucking stupid.
[–]Koryphae_-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
As I stated in my initial post, the concept is not made up by me. It is something I read going around TRP. I decided to share the thought to contribute to the discussion. But I guess if you lack functional reading, you might be also prone for random insults without contributing to the discussion while being constructive.
Take care and meditate.
[–]tirmanadir1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I never claimed you were the author of the quote, and I never made any random insults. I called a stupid piece of advice stupid.
[–]AFKSkinningKids0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah dude. I got a few friends like this. Couple days ago, I decided enough was enough. I gotta trim the fat. It sucks, but it had to be done. Good luck bro, stay up.
[–]vagbutters0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He holds himself to no value, he's useless and has no value to his peers.
I've known people like this in my life. If you wholeheartedly tried to help them, and they failed, drop them and never look back. It'll be healthier for you, and you'll get to watch them destroy themselves because they were too stubborn or arrogant to change their ways.
[–]AncientScrolls0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude I´ve been living the same dilemma as you for the past 5 years I´ve changed a lot, due to the redpill, However my friends didnt, since they werent "awakened" yet they are still the typical high school beta nerds that keep trying to date chicks through the internet who dont give a damn about them. Going back in timeI was a total Nerd Beta loser in High School. During my entire High School and Middle School years I used to walk with the same group of friends, which were and are still total nerds, our activities were playing D&D, playing MOBA games, WOW, Second life, Xbox live. During the weekends Instead of going to parties or getting chicks we would spend time at each other homes playing games on co-op or through the internet.
Anyways to sum it up in my senior year of High School I received a big no from my crush. That was when I went berserk, found out about the redpill and decided it was time for a change. I started lifting, going to parties, hiking, crossfit, becoming more social. While most of my friends never changed(all of this was 4-5 years ago).
Fast forwarding to the present I´ve got abs, a tattoo on my back, became more charismatic and sometimes I get laid with an hb8-9. However the big problem is I have a hard time keeping in touch with most of my former friends from high school. I keep trying to convert them to the redpill or bring them to parties and explain to them why they cant get a hot gf or laid and they refuse to accept my explanations. I dont know what to do. I just dont think its fair to ditch some friendships just because I matured while they didnt ,since some are my best friends. I still keep in touch with them but Its becoming harder and harder to keep in touch since we are becoming total opposites. They I´d rather live in their fantasy rpgs and sci-fiction world. Its just sad they will all end up with an ugly chick or as total beta buxes for a hot chick.
[–]1Original_Dankster4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What I don't get is why he'd even tell this pusillanimous sycophant about The Red Pill.
Keep this shit to yourselves amigos. If your bro is meant to learn his lesson, he'll learn it and then find us on his own - just like all of us did.
[–]TryDoingSomethingNew1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As much as it burns me at times to keep my mouth shut about it, yes it's pointless to bring it up with the average chump.
[–]Hillarysdilddo_20160 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My thoughts exactly.
Friend? Strange definition of the word.
you are who you associate with.
[–]0kool7428 points29 points30 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you aren't losing friends because of the Red Pill, then you need to step up your game!!!
[–]harsha_hs14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
True that. Redpill makes you lose friends, in other words it let's you keep your self respect
[–]ArkAngelEV9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The truth is that many men will have been born in the dark, lived in the dark and will die in the dark. At a certain point, you can't take the blind and show them sun, it'll never work. That is the true tragedy
[–]KainLust4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is the first time I post here... I think you meant the cavern allegory right? Some people are so scared of changing that they will never be capable of doing it...
[–]ArkAngelEV3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Pretty much. Or imagine if you took somebody out from 150 years ago and tried teaching them how to use an iphone 7. It would boggle their mind so hard they would swear you were using sorcery, summoning tongues they're never been exposed to. It would be too much, and even if they could gain some proficiency in it, they'll always be an outsider to that technology/way of thinking.
The best we can hope for is to keep a malleable intelligent mind, as if someone from the future showed us something we would be like " oh yeah, that can make sense " and not think they were satanic
[–]KainLust2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha yeah. Being open and really curious helps a lot to progress imo
[–]176-671 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I learned this quick. I used to try and show my dad all of this evidence of Hillary's monster existence. Proof that Trump wasn't the N azi the media made him out to be. But betas don't want to learn. When you're 60 and a beta, you don't want to hear you might have been wrong your entire life. You want your head in the sand, right where it's always been. It's too much of a shock.
Thing is, if I somehow made my dad see the light after months of persuasion, there would just be some other brainwashed beta next in line to drive me even crazier. It's not worth it. You'll never 'win'. Do you. That brings the happiness.
Yes! Spend your effort and energy where it will not be for nothing.
[–]throwedxman17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Where's this supposed "fat ass"?
To your point tho', he'll learn soon enough whether it's 5 or 35 years from now.
[–]176-671 25 points26 points27 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, came here to say this. Link that ass
[–]Bodybuilder14532 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah i was about to say the same thing!
[–]TryDoingSomethingNew6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A few notes after reading your post:
"my same friend talks down to me for using this sub, calling me a misogynyst"
Agree and amplify, or I'd respond next time with something like "Yeah, I'm just such a terrible asshole & women hater" while appearing amused and unaffected. Own that shit. In either case, the accuser has no power over you, and for bonus points rub in "...too bad when I'm getting laid the women don't know, huh?" etc.
Similarly, play off the bullshit about us being for "violence against women" with something like hair-pulling, ass-spanking, etc. that's what I'd do, because betas don't understand that women in the real world often love it.
Your friend is (most likely) a lost cause. Beause SJW/social-justice topics etc require a cult-like following and a suspension of reality. That means he's not really based in the real world and open to rational thinking...ie pointless dealing with people like this.
I agree with the guys below. Unless you have some outside reason and put on the guise of being a "nice guy" then purge your life of toxic people like this clown.
[–]dear_glob_why11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You should fuck his girlfriend.
[–]1SeemedGood2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He would then default to blaming the OP for being a "sexual predator," at which point he'd be trapped in a logical inconsistency as blaming the OP would imply that his girlfriend had no agency in the matter which would further imply that he doesn't actually think she's "equal."
[–]BusterVadge6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Invite your friend to the gym. Turn him into your workout buddy. Maybe... just maybe... that extra shock of testosterone in his system will wake his ass up.
The problem with some men today is just as much hormonal as it is mental.
[–]1SeemedGood4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can lead a horse to water...
Seriously though, sometimes you just have to cut it off with the horse and let it go die of de-hydration on its own.
Had to do that myself with a guy that I had thought was a long-time high school & college buddy when I began to realize that he had really been super-competitive with me in a very feminine way, including trying to pussy-block whenever women approached me or showed strong IOI, and when I realized that after many years as buds I couldn't tell him that the woman he planned to marry was treating him like a total ass. It came to a head when he brought her over to my house to meet my family and the whole time she ragged on him about why he couldn't be more like me (house, cars, etc.). It was embarrassing. A month or so later at a HS reunion I wanted to pull him aside and tell him how I felt and that I was so embarrassed for him that I didn't want my young daughters to even witness that type of behavior in a woman ever again, but he freaked out when he complained about how he had been treated in HS, and I suggested that it was because he wad been a bit of a dick. Had to let him go after that.
[–]harsha_hs4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
After redpill, before you realize, you have changed. You will be assertive and don't take a single shit. Some people notice and respect you and some people hate you. Your image is changing, some people accept it, and some people hate it.
[–]BestSC867 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Future cuck in the making....Next this loser.
Lets be honest, his SJW "GF" is getting fucked hard at college unless as I expect she is a 1 or 2 in which case she isn't getting much unless she can con a drunk dude with a severe case of beer goggles to rail her. She is likely too sore to think about that pitiful wussy back home or she is bitter about not able to find any drunk dude.
And your lame friend will be happy as a clam when finds out his troll GF has been getting railed at college....you know, womyn's power and all.
[–]Hillarysdilddo_20165 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Future cuck in the making..
Correction. Current beta cuckold.
[–]verify_account points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
He's constantly associating himself with shit like black lives matter and similar organizations and posting about them on social media
I want the virtue signalling to stop.
[–]dear_glob_why8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
An associate told me they were going to be protesting last Friday. I dared them to not post anything on social media about it. They failed.
[–]Swallowed_the_pill0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's just like the filters after terrorist attacks. They don't give a shit, they just want to get likes and attention.
[–]_the_shape_0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ignore, do you, and associate with those who do likewise. That's the best advise I can shell out, because these people animal's very existence depends on seeking out fabricated boogeymen "reasons" to virtue-signal.
In other words, don't hold your breath on it ever stopping.
[–]DysfunctionalBrother1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People who support SJW dribble generally have no self respect and low self esteem so try to do what is considered good and selfless in the hope of getting validation, attention and sex. Basically nice guy syndrome.
[–]LeJamesBron324 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This girl is definitely hiding something from your friend. Regardless, I would still love to see that picture.
[–]IMPOSSIBLE_JENGA 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So...any pics of this ass or what?
[–]MenchenFive12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
-"B-B-But you're an asshole, you treat women like shit, you misogynistic fuck!"
-"Actually I am, that's why I get laid and you don't."
[–]Dustin_Bromain2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Careful with this though. Women often resort to attacking a man's sexual prowess. We shouldn't stoop to their level of thinking.
[–]EmperorofEarf2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He's already being cucked. CC is her favorite ride, I guarantee it.
[–]HedonisticGodofSex1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No use trying to teach a closed eye fool, he prefers ignorance; Learnt that the hard way.
[–]heitorjanuzzi0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's life. But remember: don't try to help who doesn't want help.
[–]coolred86110 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My wife just explained it to me the other day. I paused and I couldn't believe the bullshit.
Now before I put what she said. I am unplugging from the blue pill shit that I have been ingrained with since the beggining of time. Even my own behavior sometimes makes me want to throw up.
Now when my wife does something for me, like cook an amazing meal, i am one of those annoying millenials that will instagram the plate and say pretty positive things about her.
She'll even tell me, in a very cautioned, yet joking tone, "Coolred8611, you may not want to do that, you don't want other guys seeing how awesome I'm doing stuff and will try to step in and take you away from me, that's why I don't really social media the things you do for me, 'cause I don't want some hoe seeing how good of a man you are to me and trying to take you away from me."
I was floored at the logic. But the guy in OP's post sounds oblivious to even the NOTION of red pill...
AWALT I guess.
[–]Cesare_MA0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd bet money she's sleeping around at college. Those relationships NEVER last if the girl is a 5 or above. I've seen it happen (and been the cause of it 😉) too often as a college student.
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