Browsing this subreddit has made me stop feeling sorry for being a homo and strengthened my belief that men and women are not compatible beyond reproduction.

CloakedOrchid · 2014-09-22T18:24:34+00:00

I don't think I've ever seen anything homophobic here in TRP. I think the users on this sub have done a damn fine job of improving themselves by building themselves up rather than putting down anyone else--gay guys included.

With that in mind, I'm glad you finally found some peace. Good for you, man!

UGoBoom · 2014-09-22T18:29:13+00:00

If you haven't already, check out /r/altTRP

favours_of_the_moon · 2014-09-22T22:19:15+00:00

Haha, shit man. If I could be gay, I'd be living the life!

NEVER having to put up with female bullshit? Damn, bro!

Baylien2 · 2014-09-22T19:17:01+00:00

Am I wrong in thinking that most lesbians are miserable and angry? I don't want to just be buying into a stereotype, but lesbians seem to me to be much more bitter than gay men, despite a weaker social stigma against them.

PeteMullersKeyboard · 2014-09-23T01:11:14+00:00

I truly envy gay men.

My attraction towards women feels like a form of mind control to me. If I masturbate enough times I don't even want to be with anyone, but pass enough time without release and I'll consider being in a relationship. It's fucked up how drastically different a man's mental states can be.

Flytape · 2014-09-22T19:22:39+00:00

I don't give a fuck if you're gay.

I think when you boil TRP down to the essentials its all about understanding your own psychology and the "other people you want to be with"'s psychology.

I'm sure the dynamics are all kinds of fucking weird in the gay meat market but there is no way that TRP truths don't map over.

Rooibosisboss · 2014-09-22T21:51:21+00:00

red pill is for for guys who want to be men; all guys, not just straight guys.

there are no more homophobic comments here than there are on any other subbreddit, if anything there's less.

lemonparty · 2014-09-22T21:29:56+00:00

More power to ya, man! I don't think most people here are bigoted against gays. If anything, there is some jealousy. Look at it this way, when you're digging around dating sites, backpage, craigslist whatever....

....90% of the chicks looking to score with dudes are FAKE.

...90% of the dudes looking to score with other dudes are REAL.

Your pond may be smaller, but it's still easier to fish in. That's enough to make any hetero man green with envy!

23490865243879526487 · 2014-09-22T23:37:04+00:00

I doubt this subreddit is a fan of homosexuality any more than feminism or cares about a random faggot's opinion but I'm writing this for myself more than anything. I just prefer sharing my thoughts.

Personally I am disgusted by mansex but I'll fight to the death for your right to have it. I also believe that marriage if it must exist as a government institution should possible be between any kind and number of consenting adults as they please. Marriage is a gods damn business contract and it's none of the government's business who chooses to sign one.

dicklord_airplane · 2014-09-22T20:56:41+00:00

i love hearing gay guy's observations on straight people because it's as close to an objective assessment as you can get. i think you're right that a lot of guys would choose to be gay in this age if it was a conscious choice.

shit, that's an interesting question. if everyone was born bisexual and could choose a sexual orientation that fitted them the best as they grew up, how many guys would stick with women? probably only the natural studs would choose to pursue women while the majority of guys would blow each other and take it easy. there would have to be massive tax incentives for men to choose to be straight. i think I see why so many religions discouraged homosexuality with a death penalty. you've gotta harness men's productivity through shame and by instituting sexual frustration.

re-rebuild · 2014-09-22T23:07:51+00:00

The red pill is for men who are true to themselves.

I do not consider the ideas represented here as inherently incompatible with homosexuality.

Homophobic content gets called out here, as far as I have seen.

If I could be gay, I would be.

Watermelon_Salesman · 2014-09-23T10:06:22+00:00

I doubt this subreddit is a fan of homosexuality

We don't give a fuck.

I just wanted to be straight and "fit in" with the rest of society.

Maybe you should try not giving a fuck.

Cheers.

NoFatChicks88 · 2014-09-23T01:25:40+00:00

My best friend is a gay man and even more anti-feminist than i am. He's also a manly guy. Masculinity and being a gay man are not mutually exclusive.

FLFTW16 · 2014-09-23T03:43:14+00:00

I spent most of my life feeling lonely and depressed because I just wanted to be straight and "fit in" with the rest of society.

Young boys that are heterosexual and NOT natural alphas experience the exact same emotions. We are lonely, depressed, we want to fit in and we see fitting in as being attractive and having sexual experiences with women, which are denied to us.

All of my best friends are gay. For quite a while this confused a lot of them. They thought they could turn me gay, they didn't know how to categorize me. The fact is, millennial dudes are open minded and largely not homophobic. Being not homophobic allowed me to realize that gay men are still men, and that only men can be friends, women can't. But straight men are in competition with each other and so there is always that element of being against each other. So my best friends in adulthood have been gay. Every straight guy I know is far too busy either securing pussy or chasing pussy to have a secure, masculine friendship. But since gay guys can get sex any night of the week, they have off nights where they can just enjoy friendship and good conversation.

HeadingRed · 2014-09-23T14:31:48+00:00

I got a lot of TRP understanding with gay and lesbian couples I knew.

I have hung out with gay male and female couples. This drove home the differences between men and women more than anything else.

I saw two gay guys spend about 15 minutes hashing out a pretty huge financial matter- the joint purchase of a new home. They pretty easily figured out a way to do it when one guy had about 30k less than the other guy with no drama and I mean none. It went like this-

Guy #1 -"How about I pay an extra $500 for a few years until we are even? It can go towards the principle" Guy #2 "OK"

I watched two women fight, stay pissed for the whole weekend over who should pay for a new Christmas tree. It was a public fight and even the next day still pissed off. Later found out they had a "together" bedroom and one had a separate bedroom with another having a sleeping area downstairs when there was fighting. For a while they both worked in the office with me and it was quite common to see one or both pissed.

Even with the male\female relationship dynamic removed there I still see a pretty big difference between the way men and women get along.

2014-09-22T17:40:45+00:00

Part of this whole "red pill" thing is being honest with yourself and not letting the shortcomings of others (specifically women, but really anyone) sway you from your path.

blameitonmoi · 2014-09-22T21:37:08+00:00

Welcome!

I have just seen Sin City 2 - A dame to kill for. There is a woman who plays men like fiddles. Everyone falls for her. Not only because of sex but because she makes them want to protect her. It leads to sex but she always begins by pulling their "I need to protect her" strings.

I asked myself, what would happen if she came across a gay guy?

Perhaps you could answer the question?

We talk a lot here about how men have a natural instinct to protect and provide for women. I have always thought that this went far beyond "wants to have sex". Could also explain the friendzone phenomenon even more. I wouldn't be surprised if homosexual men had this instinct to protect and provide for women, too.

So what would you say?

You don't feel sexually attracted to women obviously, but do you think you have sometimes treated a woman better in a situation than you would have a guy? For example if she needed help? wanted to talk about her problems? Or did you instinctively take sides with a woman but later found out you judged too quickly in her favor? Or anything like these?

WoahScienceCool · 2014-09-23T01:43:08+00:00

Honestly, there isnt a day that goes by where I dont secretly WISH I was gay. Never having to deal with a woman or being a slave to her pussy must be paradise. Unfortunately, however, Im as straight as they come. You have nothing to envy on this side, I promise you.

exit_sandman · 2014-09-23T08:34:00+00:00

I doubt this subreddit is a fan of homosexuality any more than feminism or cares about a random faggot's opinion but I'm writing this for myself more than anything.

Despite the rather conservative bent TRP has, most regulars have a Spartan style approach to intragender relationships. Of course some will give you flak for it, but the majority won't care.

I think this is further proof that sexual orientation is not a choice. If it was I honestly believe a lot of straight men would have already "converted" after having many frustrating experiences with women.

I concur.

Back in the day, I used to think that no one in his right mind would choose to be homosexual, considering all the gay hate that it going on in the world, so it had to be natural. By now, I clearly see the perks of not having to put up with all the crossgender dating drama.

While I don't really need TRP's advice on women, your incessant complaining about them has helped me indirectly accept who I am by realizing straight relationships are nothing I should be jealous of. I like women, I'm just glad I don't have to navigate their maze just to get laid.

More power to you. At least I can say that I finally understand why "gay" originally meant "happy" ;)

loddfavne · 2014-09-23T10:39:56+00:00

In ancient greece, there were many philosophers that said that the only true love was between men. When I was younger, I laughed at the notion. But, now I gotta admit it sounds kind of true. After all, the greek philosophers were great thinkers.

redgreenyellowblu · 2014-09-23T09:38:25+00:00

Yep, I adjusted myself to the fact I like guys a long long ago, and only recently realized how lucky I was.

I was (still am) beta, and I think I was figuring out in high school that girls just didn't want what I had to offer. I'd have been ignored until I had enough money to attract a woman who would have settled for me.

Funny thing is, when my brother was divorced by his wife in the shittiest and most cliche way you can imagine, I was commiserating with him and told him how I saw women as filled with nothing but games and he couldn't believe his gay brother was bitching about women. We have a reputation for liking them, I guess.

I used to have a lot of girlfriends until I realized you can never call them on their shit, even in a humorous way. They only want to be validated nowadays. You think they're okay with the fact you told them they might be wrong about something but they never forget it. Three weeks later they say some passive aggressive shit, and it goes back to the fact you didn't affirm what an amazing-funny-smart goddess they were three weeks ago. I pissed them off too many times and I got tired of their passive agressive bitchiness.

2014-09-22T20:33:39+00:00

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myschadenfreude · 2014-09-22T18:43:34+00:00

If you are happy with yourself and improving yourself for the outcome of being a better person, welcome. Best of luck on your journey.

SOUTHPAWMIKE · 2014-09-22T22:46:22+00:00

I like having gay friends. They're really the ultimate wingmen.

No, but seriously. TRP is applicable to all men, gay, straight, or in-between. This sub certainly seems consistently over-focused on the nature of relationships between men and women, but that really is only one facet of TRP ideology. TRP is about improving yourself as an individual through a specific lens; a lens where we have attained a certain clarity on society and the way society views men and the male condition. Many of the fundamental tenets (holding frame, increasing confidence levels, etc.) are applicable in aspects of our lives beyond sexual/emotional relationships, such as the business world and getting optimal results in your day-to-day interactions with other people.

HalfAsianBob · 2014-09-23T10:10:16+00:00

I have no problem at all with homosexuals. More power to you if you're able to find happiness in another man. In principal it even sounds enviable but in practice it's not my cup of tea. I love my best friends dearly but… I would not fuck them. Great to a man who would be able to do that though.

Locastor · 2014-09-22T23:37:24+00:00

OP there is more to the Pill than plates and hamsters. There is plenty here for any man, regardless of orientation.

Try staying a while and see how many pounds you can add to your dead (visit /r/necromancers as well, of course).

Rougepellet · 2014-09-23T05:04:03+00:00

The only thing i wondered was if being alpha or beta had any relation to your sexuality. I guess the two are independent outcomes though.

2014-09-23T09:17:46+00:00

You should check out Jack Donovan's work. He's a homosexual and is not very fond of flamboyant gay culture, he even wrote a book on the topic called "Androphilia". Didn't read it. I'm straight. I enjoy his other work though, and can vouch that he's a cool guy.

Blurb from amazon:

"He calls into question stereotypes that exist about homosexuals. This stereotype is now one crafted by interested parties, instead of the bigoted views of Christian fundamentalists or disinterested outsiders. It's one that's often crafted in a similar way that products are marketed, to appeal and shine and often offer more than the product will ever be able to deliver. And that is a lie. Jack is not a stereotype, not a lifestyle enthusiast; he is a man who loves men."

I doubt that this subreddit has anything against homosexuals. It's not like you chose your DNA.

pTymN · 2014-09-23T12:58:37+00:00

I've lived with two gay roommates and met their friends. I believe that homosexual feelings can develop as a consequence of hopeless frustration with the other gender. Ever notice how your indifference attracts women who want to show you what they can offer? They don't like when one leaves the flock.

rpmale · 2014-09-23T17:53:29+00:00

I suggest you continue reading TRP because male/female sexual dynamics play a big role in your career life, your child's life if you choose to have one, your social relationships and more. Also, noone gives a fuck about you being gay here.

2014-09-24T03:35:26+00:00

your incessant complaining about them

Pointing out truths to avoid being fucked over is not complaining, it's guidance.

Regardless, I'm glad you have found happiness. Still though, avoid becoming one of them "quislings", or, the gay men who attack masculinity and heterosexual men in general.

Prattler26 · 2014-09-27T02:01:47+00:00

Actually, seems like lesbians divorce more often than everyone else. Need a man to put up with the bullshit, other women just can't do it.

PeteMullersKeyboard · 2014-09-22T20:51:06+00:00

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AllMenDrip · 2014-09-23T01:00:26+00:00

I think this is further proof that sexual orientation is not a choice.

Sorry but I choose not to fuck a man in his ass and not to get fucked in the ass.

ShamanChemistry · 2014-09-23T11:43:33+00:00

Half the comments at the bottom are basically calling it a mistake, or "chemical imbalance" as if there is some sort of standard for all men to be compared to. Or anecdotes of how trauma or LSD can turn you gay. The ignorance and bigotry is astounding.

Heres some classics:

It's the flamboyant faggots nobody likes. The ones who define themselves through their sexuality and have to act like little bitches around everyone.

Just like not every black is a nigger, not every homosexual is a faggot. There are good ones and bad ones.

"Worst thing to happen to gays is gay culture. The gay pride parade especially."

(yeah damn those people who arent accepted for creating their own in group so they can feel accepted after millenia of intolerance)

Last I read it was a chemical imbalance in the brain, anyway treating people badly solely because of it is wrong especially since we can't offer them a cure at this point, if they even want to be cured.

How isn't it a mental condition? If you think you're a girl but you have a Y chromosome, a dick, and balls, your problem is cognitive not physical. You are one sex but think you really are the other.

And this is just a few from THIS thread. lol you guys are fooling yourselves.

harkrank · 2014-09-22T21:38:34+00:00

I've read that LSD can make gay people straight, this puts some doubt on wether it is genetical or environmental. I'm not on a mission to convert people, just curious if that's something you have considered or if you have no belief in the idea. After all you're reading on a sub that is very questioning and challenging of everything including our core beliefs in who we are as men.

ShamanChemistry · 2014-09-22T18:55:15+00:00

There's so much homophobia in this sub

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