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[–]broek_325156 points157 points158 points 8 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
This is much better than being a whiny bitch and begging her not to leave etc. But I really think this revenge/women are evil mentality is not healthy, and new guys reading this should not replicate it.
It would be perfectly fine to handle it calmly, give her the bags and see her out. When she’s left you can chase other girls and go about your life. Your calmness alone will speak volumes to her about how little it bothers you, and that will trigger her hamster if that’s the goal.
No need to “destroy” anyone, unless you are facing an internal battle of your own, in which case you need to figure why you feel that way and address it.
[–]OGlancellannister43 points44 points45 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. A need for revenge comes only from a place of insecurity. Take the high road. The view is much prettier ;)
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yah trust me she’ll find out who you’re fucking. No need to make a show of it.
This is at the core of my concerns with some of the "advice" I read on this subreddit.
If the goal is the perfect man, then who is that perfect man? Who is that man when it's NOT you? Would you want to be friends with that person?
I'll tell you, I certainly am not interested in keeping ties with someone who demonstrates deliberate intent to be creatively malicious.
[–]Throwawaysteve1234560 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I completely agree. It showed a lot of passive aggressiveness, which is a pretty feminine behavior. I'd act like I had a date tonight, but I wouldn't talk about it to them, or especially call them in front of her. Looks almost desperate.
[+]AttentionDenail-7 points-6 points-5 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
She needed to be punished for lying. If she would said that it is over because she doesn't love me anymore. That would be fine and I wouldn't even be mad. But listening to her bullshit is a waist of time and my time is expensive
[–]broek_32540 points41 points42 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thing is, she doesn’t need you to try and punish her. Being calm and genuinely ok with her leaving, not fighting it, that will do all the work for you.
Right now she is hurt, but has it in her head “he called a girl right in front of me just to get back at me”. So instantly she knows she’s hurt you, and that is validation for her. It shows abundance, yes, but it shows a weakness too.
On the other hand, if you were calm and collected, showed her out and acted completely unphased, she’s going to be absolutely puzzled by how little you care. That shows abundance, without making it clear that you are hurt. Her hamster will spin fast.
Hope that makes sense. It shouldn’t be your objective to hurt people, just look after yourself.
Now, if you had some bitch saying she’s gonna frame you for rape, go ahead, record that shit, and if she makes a claim take her to court and rightfully destroy her, I believe in fighting with everything against people who wish to destroy you.
But in a simple, AWALT, “I’m leaving you” situation, just play it cool, let her spin her own hamster into the ground.
[–]WelfareWarriorZ0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I had this urge to do this to my ex for the usual. Over time the opportunity never came when I said to myself that it would happen. Now here I am, doing way better than her and laughing at her husband for marrying a cheater. I don't have that urge anymore, life just works itself out when you stop caring about shit. Happily single, building career/wealth, and I'm on a path to success. I wouldn't trade that feeling for caring about some last jab.
[–]OGlancellannister8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you feel a need to punish a girl (other than in the bedroom), you're way too invested and lacking in abundance. Vindictiveness requires more of your energy than stoicism
[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The ONLY way to punish a woman is to deny her any attention. Any emotional reactions you have towards her are like fuel for her and only validate her decision and opinion about you in her own mind. She will NEVER admit that you're right to anyone, not you, not even herself.
broek_325 is right. Next her, no reason provided, no explanation given, no contact maintained. Anything more above that is a waste of your time as it doesn't move anything forward.
I get that your solution feels good, but in the end, when the feeling of "destroying her" passes, you're left with nothing more than if you haven't done that at all.
[–]AttentionDenail0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So you say I should ghost her and feel nothing at all or I do what I do and feel good for a while. In both ways I will move on, but one is more fun
[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, I guess it feels good, so let's probe that "feel good" argument a bit more:
Does that boost your confidence? No it doesn't b/c it's not a constructive accomplishment.
Does that make you more attractive? No it doesn't, b/c being emotionally driven is not attractive.
I should ghost her and feel nothing at all
Yes, you should. By indulging in revenge fantasies all you demonstrate is that she could (and did) break your frame and make you act on your "beta/BP hurt emotions". You're playing HER game not yours here.
Finally, if you really think you "hurt her" you're VERY mistaken. She will hamster and rationalize as long and as much as she needs to put the blame squarely on you, than she'll hop on Tinder to validate herself by riding a dick of some other dude.
[–]twofones2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All though this is theoretically true, you will never EVER hear a girl level with you like you just described. There’s no time to punish all of them even if you know how and even if it’s fair. 9/10 for knowing where the redpill strings are, that last 10% is mastering the situation ahead of time. I️ personally am still working on that last part.
[–]danO1O1O11 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your time wasn't expensive dealing with her for however long. What's one more hour?
You could have easily plated her six months later.
[–]A_Bandini2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
"She needed to be punished for lying." This is incel. Glad you dropped her but you gotta maintain frame.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well put, sir. Nicely done!
[–]VickVaseline14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Wait. What? You left an angry ex at your place?
I'm thinking that's the perfect recipe for torn-up clothing, smashed dishes, if not setting the place ablaze.
[+]AttentionDenail-6 points-5 points-4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Is this my problem? I would call the cops and get her arrested. Plus I am getting new clothes for free
[–]BusterVadge5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's avoidable, and yes would have been your problem since you could have dealt with the mess by taking "the talk" to a neutral location.
Always plan for the worst in people. I broke up with an ex a few years back and didn't plan on having her flip out on me. I could have mitigated the damage that she caused by simply planning ahead.
[–]gromnomnom1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your ex trashes your place and sets it on fire, how is that not your problem?
[–]ReluctantPawn9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Really not necessary. Hand her her bags, say ok, if you’re on good terms wish her the best and leave. To me the whole show is petty and unnecessary. Yes you showed her abundance mentality. Who cares you are done with her. Take the high road and move on.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
TL;DR fight her with her own weapons, call another girl right on the spot when she wants to leave you. Make her feel the same pain
Sure, but let's neither pretend this is destroying her nor have misleading titles like "Destroying her".
As well as making this sub look like something we're not, it's not true. She'll have a new man within the week.
[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most likely she already has someone, hence the "I need space in my gina for his dick" talk.
[–]OmegaMan248 points49 points50 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Well played.
She was in the process of dumping you, so you let it be known that you have options. Had you whined and cried after her she would have felt justified in leaving you. Now she has to wonder if she acted a bit too hastily.
I'll bet that she now regrets her decision.
[–]marqdesad 1 points1 points1 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I disagree this reeks of desperation. Your girlfriend is breaking is probably breaking up with you because you're the type of clown to stage a call with another girl in an attempt to hurt your gf's feelings. The 'alpha' move would be to not give a fuck that she's breaking up with you. Instead you play out this little charade, and the funniest part is that you didn't even close on that bar girl. It's easy to read through the lines 'too many red flags' means she wouldn't fuck me but I'm insecure so I'm going to frame it like I rejected her!
If this is the shit that people on this sub think is alpha than you are all fucking pathetic.
[–]Dat_Chad4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
well, not wanting to fuck me IS a red flag if there ever was one
[–]Billygout1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im so glad you posted this, as i read the OP this is all that was running through my head. This just sounds pathetic.
[–]acetylcysteine1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this. also why are you getting girl's numbers while you're in a LTR?
[–]1RPAlternate422 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great... you have one woman who is in your past still thinking about you.
How the fuck does this help your life?
[–]ShiftyMcCoy8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're a terrific fiction writer.
[–]MisterRoid2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It did sound a bit silly, but hey, it seems like it worked well, and that's what matters! I would probably have told the bitch to fuck off and that I don't do friends, lol. Maybe it's a bit petty to want "revenge", but I also find it satisfying on its own to make a girl upset if she has displeased me, and it tends to be beneficial as well.
[–]AttentionDenail0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I never agreed on the friends part. Hurting her was not the best move, but it felt damn good and she got the message. Leaving me was a mistake. That's whats matters to me
[–]Bruno-OS3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
“Leaving me was a mistake.” That’s some weird shit to say.
[–]acetylcysteine3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
ya sounds like someone still has strong feelings. this whole charade is clearly shows he was deeply hurt by her and wanted to enact revenge.
[–]albino_red_head2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This makes me think back to my blue pill days. I dated a girl a few weeks. I asked her about a guy she was going to hang out with, "nah just friends" etc. She dumps me "we can be friends". next week she comes into computer lab holding hands with that guy. I stand up and call tell her "you lied to me, and you're a whore" loud enough for all to hear, and walked out. I felt like such a badass and that I wrecked her and embarrassed her that day. Thinking back though, what a pathetic display of weakness that was. Just a petty display. She tried crawling back later but still. Cringe worthy.
[–]MisterRoid0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn't say that you did. And it's not like it was a bad move. Certainly much better than being a beta orbiter.
[–]Brickles09-2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You showed the IDGAF attitude, actually. Calling another girl in front of her because you couldn’t care less about what she thinks is red pill as fuck. You could have even gone to another room, and then called from there, and then return and say: “Oh, are you still there? What do you need in order to leave?”. I have used this one with my wife and she replied: “You couldn’t care less about me, right?” To which I replied with a “ok”. She went nuts!
[–]Morphs_2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Interesting move. But can you backtrack the reason why she wanted more space? In my case I overpursued my gf out of oneitis/neediness. It actually took a talk with a good friend to realize that fact. Something lowered her attraction over time.
[–]1RPAlternate422 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
call another girl right on the spot when she wants to leave you. Make her feel the same pain
You started amputating a gangrenous limb with surgical precision and ease... and then, at the last second, decided to throw the scalpel in the trash and instead gnaw the rest of the limb off with your teeth.
Do things for you. Calling that girl was clearly done for her. And if you think this is about "making her feel pain" you are wrong and you know it. This was about making drama for her as the audience. You grinned and smiled when she texted and called you.
She is now enthralled with the idea of you and I predict you are using this as leverage to get back together with her. you have solidly and completely done everything in her frame.
Why not block the number? Why even deal with the woman at all? You are like a hoarder: you are keeping an old newspaper in case you want to read it again. Do it enough and you won't have to dig in the trash for treasures because you have been filling your entire life with your relationship refuse.
Doing shit to make women jealous is female behavior. This was, literally, a bitch move.
[–]DJGammaRabbit0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. Why the want to destroy someone?
[–]cashmoney_x1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is dumb. Stop posting and work on yourself.
[–]halfback9100 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's funny. I realized that my last relationship was stupid and over when I came to the conclusion that my significant other cheated on me and I realized i just didn't fucking care. I wasn't angry or jealous or possessive at all.
In many ways, I had been waiting for an excuse and one just fell in my lap.
[–]BillSander0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Indifference...? Not really. Keep working though. The goal is shrug-level ZFG.
[–]BokehClasses0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is beyond stupid.
We all know women have more power than men in today's world. Doing this to her just gives her an incentive to get you back. It could be a false rape accusation, it could be false domestic abuse claim, or she could ruin your future relationships by making you believe your current GF is cheating (story from a female reddit poster who did the same thing).
So rather than being stoic and really alpha, you decided to lash out one last time to hurt her feelings. Very poorly played OP.
Either play it as a stoic alpha, or even play it as a beta. Playing beta means people will see you as weak therefore run away from you. Correctly knowning when to pretend to be beta is a really good skill to have.
A Life in fear is no life. Playing a beta is no option. I could done it better as some guys explained very good, but fearing a rape claim is not even remotely scarry in my country. Uncuck the shithole you are living in please
[–]BokehClasses0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Uncuck the shithole you are living in please
I wish I could bro. But it's gone far beyond that point.
[–]chuckthundercock0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As other posters have mentioned, take this as a lesson. IMO actually telling these stories support the demonization of TRP by the womyn. Truth is you need to really just retrain your brain to not blame her, as the reason she's leaving is YOUR FAULT. You were weak, you let a girl you wanted to stay decide you weren't alpha enough. If you didn't care you wouldn't want revenge, you'd be indifferent. If you were indifferent, she never would have left. There's a strong lesson for you in this post son, listen to your RP brothers..
[–]fearlesslionx0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well done my man, that is why you need external abundance sources and abundance mindset
[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Where does this get you exactly? It seems like you’re an egomaniac who doesn’t even get sex now.
[–]H42 1 points1 points1 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It is a display of abundance mentality.
She wants out; she gets "replaced" and ghosted before she leaves.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
But like... until what? Until you die at 79 years old alone but having once (40 years ago) got a lot of pussy? I’m being serious. The redpill’s one weakness seems to be its grasp of ultimate concerns.
That is because you may think it is rinse, repeat, forever loop.
Its not.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Will you explain to me how it ends? What is the end-goal?
[–]AttentionDenail15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Getting sex is not my primary goal, but improve my life is. I am pretty sure, that my ex would fuck the hell out of me if she could. By not giving a single fuck you prove your frame and value. Not only to her, but to all her girlfriends who she vented to.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But like where does this get you over the next fifteen years? Like what will you be when you’re 40? What is your purpose in life, you know?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well for one it confirms a lot of shit we say on here, which makes the field report by itself useful. Secondly it obviously would've gotten his girlfriend back had he wanted that. Not to mention it also gets revenge if your into that. I appreciate the post.
[–]dontbethatguynow1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is a field report. To the point, without the "erotica"
But these field reports are like a college football player studying what kinds of plays work best in football but also plausibly aiming to avoid dementia and Alzheimer’s.
It’s like, dude, what if what you’re doing now isn’t actually good for you in the end?
A pizza tastes good. But it isn’t a good long term strategy. So a subreddit all about getting a lot of pizza would seem weird to me. I’m... into health, you know?
[–]acetylcysteine-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you're in a LTR, yet still getting girls numbers at bars? bit sketchy if it was a true LTR
[–]Yeralt-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What are red flags? Sorry but im new to this reddit
[–]BusterVadge2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They are flags that are of the color red.
[–]huge_gap-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is fun revenge porn, but the amount of effort you put into dealing with this girls breakup was too much. Shoulda just said "ok, pack up your shit" and walked away. At the most, have her shit packed so she doesn't fiddle with your shit and then say "there's the door."
Too tryhard, but otherwise entertaining.
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