Final Cold Approach vs Warm Approach Theory.

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5_7pickup · 2022-12-23T19:37:40+00:00

You know you can do both right. If a girl gives you IOIs then approach. If not and you still want to meet her, you can still approach. These things arent mutually exclusive you know?

The fact that youre making so many posts about this makes me think youre just insecure about cold approaching yourself.

Salo_DL · 2022-12-23T18:49:48+00:00

"I understand the need and actually believe Cold Approaching is a great thing as you do build an outcome independent mindset and some social finesse."

This ☝️

There are no shortcuts on the way to become your best self. Since you have abundance you don't need to approach every girl. But you will be able to approach any girl that you want.

REDUCE YOUR WEAKNESS EXALT YOUR STRENGTHS

Flying_Wingback · 2022-12-23T20:00:26+00:00

Bro come straight out of AMS school of purpose but doesn’t understand that cold approaching is the manliest thing you can do

JamesSkepp · 2022-12-23T20:34:45+00:00

Your post is wrong, your logic is incorrect.

Lets start with an example: what chances does a man have to do a action movie stunt like slicing a bullet with a katana? Zero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzhs1Z8Rwnk

What chance does a man have to win an MMA fight vs a professional MMA fighter? Less than 3%? What if this man learns how to fight and practices it for a few years, what chances does he have now? Roughly 50%? What if he practices more than his opponent? 60%? 70%?

It turns out you can improve your chances at a task by learning how to perform them better.

The average man has a 1 in 30 Hit rate

"So, you're telling me to have a reasonable chance of success to get a date I have to a approach 30 girls?" - do you realize how incredibly weak your argument is considering, during nightgame, you can approach 30 girls in ONE night in a few hours? What would have happened if you did that for 4 weekend nights a month? What would have happened to your game if you did that for 1 year?

By Cold Approaching you let her know you are searching and are in a drought.

However the Warm Approach let's gives YOU the power to pursue or deny her.

You have that backward. If you wait for IOIs she is the selector. This means you wait for her to give you the permission to approach you. This makes you a BP for not understanding this and beta for actually doing it for so long.

In conclusion:

You are a BP beta and your post has 103% chance of being wrong. That is because you have practiced both skills for a long time and got really good at both.

pahtres · 2022-12-23T20:23:15+00:00

man when did TRP become infested by these fucking wish.com Jordan Peterson-Andrew Taint shibboleth hybrids

5_7pickup · 2022-12-23T20:49:59+00:00

Alright I’ll respond to your post now that I’m settled in at work.

The men you reference are literally all celebrities. So your solution is to just be a celebrity? No shit celebrities don’t have to cold approach.

You can self improve and achieve all you want, but not everybody is gonna be a celebrity.

A great product is useless if there’s nobody knows about it. For example, you can be a 2% body fat jacked doctor who makes 400k/year, owns multiple properties, cars, etc. None of this matters, if girls don’t know about it.

You say women will chase you, but how will they know? Please do tell. Tell us in details how women will know a guy is a doctor who makes 400k/year from looking at him at whole foods and then give him IOIs.

So you speak to women every day. That’s the same as cold approach. Who cares what your intent is. The action is the same. You just speak to less women because you rely on IOIs to approach.

You act like girls are 100% aware of their surroundings at all times. No. They are not. Some girls are just in their own world minding their own business. You could be just her type but since you don’t approach without IOIs, you’ll never know.

Yes, you are scared. Youre terrified of rejection. It’s very obvious you have an ego. You can’t handle being rejected so much because of your ego that’s why you need a BUFFER TO REJECTION. That’s what IOIs are. It’s a buffer to rejection. IOIs are for men with fragile egos who can’t handle the reality that some girls aren’t interested in them. Guys like you who think you’re sooooo high value so every girl must like you but when you cold approach and get rejected you get sooo butthurt that you have to write numerous reddit posts advocating for men to not cold approach.

SalporinRP · 2022-12-23T21:56:50+00:00

Think of your dating prospects like a sales funnel. Inbound leads, outbound leads, referrals, etc.

For dating it's warm approach, cold approach, dating apps, social groups, etc. The percentage split will be different for each man, but any young man should be using all of them.

The same way men have preferences so do women, when you cold approach you don't even know if you are her preference, or if she has a boyfriend. This is another reason I wait for choosing signals or IOI, this is her letting me know she is available and interested. I still have to approach and risk rejection however I am cutting out all the women with boyfriends and who don't see me as their preference this results in a personal success rate of about 70-80%. You are still a man as you had to approach her.

There are many problems with this logic:

First of all, women can be interested in you and not give IOIs or choosing signals. The female gaze is far less focused on appearance than the male gaze is. A woman could be scanning over a party with her eyes and not look at you twice - but after 5 minutes of conversation she could be fully hooked on you.
Secondly, it's some cuck defeatist attitude that puts yourself below her from a power dynamics standpoint. So you're telling me that if you're at a party/social event and you see a girl who is 100% your type physically and because she doesn't bat her eyelids at you or some shit, you're just gonna be a defeatist cuck who won't try to spit some game and at least talk to her? And then you'll spend the next week just wishing you had? Fuck that.

That paragraph is some of the biggest cope I've ever read. "Save time and effort" are you fucking trolling? Approaching a woman and testing out interest for 30-60 seconds is "wasting time" lol. Sure bud.

You also bring up a bunch of moronic bullshit about celebs. Newsflash bud, celebrities operate in an entirely different dating environment than even some dude making $1m/yr.

MrAnderzon · 2022-12-23T19:32:36+00:00

Make a post about you’re choosing signals

Wingflier · 2022-12-23T21:54:35+00:00

I'm not sure about your statistics surrounding cold approach, but I'm sorry to say that they seem way off.

Most of it has to do with a man's internal frame (as well as the way he presents himself such as his clothing, grooming habits, and style) but the best cold approaches are not having a 3% success rate, it's probably closer to 50%.

If you are having a 3% success rate with cold approaching, you are doing something horribly wrong and need to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluate your method and internal frame.

- Once you focus on yourself and achieve any level of success(Women LOVE this) you will begin to get IOI's from more women and they will CHASE YOU

I'm sorry but this just is not true. I know men who are 6 figure salary earners, 6+ feet tall and with a gym body who are not drowning in offers or pussy.

Because the reality is that it doesn't matter how much money you make, how you carry yourself, or even how tall you are, if you're not somehow flaunting that money, status, or success.

There's this really funny idea in the RP community that successful men will just wake up one day and hot girls will be beating down their door.

Obviously, much more important than your success and status, is being able to correctly flaunt your success and status in the right environments, so that women will take notice.

But I ask you, if it's all just about presentation and context, why do you even need the money or success in the first place? All of these things can be mimicked or imitated, making one wonder why to go through all the trouble to actually achieve them.

asvender · 2022-12-24T09:25:21+00:00

The cold approach is for guys with SMW below 7 and I personally think it's cringe and only shows you are desperate. Most of the time, a cold approach doesn't result in a tangible outcome unless the chick is desperate or fat and ugly. If you are a hot or a high SMV guy, you don't need this kind of thinking and strategy, and the girls show their interests directly or indirectly. Whatever you do, just see a girl as a human being with insecurities and problems like men. Be natural and honest without playing too many games and complicated thinking and planning in advance.

red_blood_cells · 2022-12-23T19:23:45+00:00

cold approach is hard because you need value (muscles, looks) to do that and most men don't have it. build your value in the gym (3 years) and a good haircut (10 mins), and look out for choosing signals from women, then warm approach.

most guys won't do this because it requires you to have you head up like a good point guard and be off your phone

Malakyas_ · 2022-12-23T20:07:52+00:00

But Look,

If I need to have insta ( which I will not ) and use expensive clothes , so these dumb bitches know I have capital and I'm successful I would rather cold approach.

I will not use brand clothes just cause of the brand that's stupid.

virgilvile · 2022-12-24T16:13:30+00:00

another great and informative article by the King!

NeverBackDrown · 2022-12-23T19:06:55+00:00

Also ask yourself this,

Does it really make you a man to be constantly rejected by something that is beneath you?

I mean that in the most non-sexist elitist way, as men we are the leaders of our households. Why would I accept being rejected continuously until some women takes pity on me?

"Just to prove how much of a man I am, that I don't care if this lady say's no I am going to CHASE her and hand her the power to accept or deny me. " - is what many of you have been saying.

Women KNOW men with abundance NEVER cold approach. I mean why would they?

And what is one thing we already know Women love?

--- A man who is already getting pussy.

By Cold Approaching you let her know you are searching and are in a drought.

However the Warm Approach let's gives YOU the power to pursue or deny her.

Which is why they only send IOI's to men of VALUE. She's not going to give you an IOI if she thinks you're beneath her.

West-Ad-9697 · 2022-12-24T07:37:52+00:00

>Would you play a game at a casino with a 3% chance of success? - NO

If the only cost was a bruised ego - sure. Everything you get in this life is because you went for it and took a risk. The amount of things you RECIEVE in life is extremely small. Get your mind out of this child that takes whatever mommy gives him attitude.

>Ask yourself this have you EVER seen Leonardo DiCaprio, Donald Trump, Future, Cristiano Reynaldo, Pete Davidson or ANY man who has built his life COLD APPROACH a female. NO, WHY IS THAT?

Because they don't have cameras following them around 24/7 - do you honestly think they don't approach women? Do you think your risk averse temperament is shared by DiCaprio or trump? Let's not mention the later 3, as they are all full on risk chasing psychos.

>Focus on building your life and achieving SUCCESS the women will CHASE Y

Some, but you don't want the women that just go for a man they fancy. Easy come, easy go. Yes, do pursue women that are into you, and being hot definetly helps that. But women that make it happen for themselves will also boss you around and complain about every little thing you do that doesn't fit their model of what a relationship with you is supposed to be like.

Fabulous-Craft · 2022-12-24T16:42:36+00:00

OP's greatest flaw is not factoring in SMV of the woman.

High value women (typically) don't send out IOIs randomly.

Great, you have an 80% success rate with 6s, but that's not as great of an accomplishment as a 10% success rate with 9s.

Aerophage1771 · 2022-12-25T15:45:24+00:00

Would you play a game at a casino with a 3% chance of success? - NO
So why do you do it with women?

If I got to play slots for the cost of nothing more than the time it takes to pull the lever, then I'd definitely play. This is a false equivalency.

revente · 2022-12-26T09:35:06+00:00

Would you play a game at a casino with a 3% chance of success? - NO So why do you do it with women?

Because unlike a casino game, a failed cold approach costs you nothing but 1-3 minutes of your time.

Title	Final Cold Approach vs Warm Approach Theory.
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