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Found this while browsing funnyjunk. It's so obvious for people that trp is working yet no one understands it for some reason

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May 7, 2014

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Title	Found this while browsing funnyjunk. It's so obvious for people that trp is working yet no one understands it for some reason
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	94
Comments	85
Date	May 7, 2014 1:32 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/24y7bm/found_this_while_browsing_funnyjunk_its_so/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/found-this-while-browsing-funnyjunk-its-so-obvious.230040 https://theredarchive.com/post/230040

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I'm sick of people wrapping up irrelevant shit with TRP theory. TRP has nothing to do with gun-ownership. If you want a debate on the cost/benefit of that issue, take it to /r/changemyview or something. Your quoting of "liberals" makes it pretty clear that you're conflating an extremely broad political standpoint with several other more socially-oriented movements. Yes, beta-males are brought about by certain aspects of some of them, but you're still required to draw a mental line between these issues and understand where one doesn't correlate to the others.

I can promise you there will be no army of gay people storming your mid-west house-fort where you'll have to spray them with bullets. Diversity of opinion belongs in TRP as much as in any forum, but be careful not to mix them where they have no business being mixed.

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Actually I would say that society has slowly over time turned the majority of men into betas, and made it extremely difficult for alpha male traits to be passed down from father to son.

You're mixing up genetics with social conditioning now. A man and his son talk free of societal influences.

In the past it was always the fathers son to raise the son to be a man, now its handled by female teachers and the mother while the man works.

A great reason for homeschooling aside from all the government indoctrination that public schools do.

Also, I would like to point out that almost exclusively these women are post wall, so they are teaching them what THEY believe to be the best course of action for these men. Nice, pandering men who provide for their women. It isnt out of hatred or misandry, its out of benevolent ignorance.

A lot of them are post wall, or just so fat and jealous of attractive women that they'll try to sabotage the man supply.

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Would this logic not suggest that if you or I sufficiently willed ourselves to, we could enjoy sex with a man? To be clear, one could be coerced in some way to have sex with a man, that doesn't make him homosexual.

No, it means that you can complete the act; whether we enjoy it is another question of whether we've been conditioned to enjoy it, as someone would enjoy being whipped.

To be clear, one could be coerced in some way to have sex with a man, that doesn't make him homosexual.

That's right, it's called rape, and please go watch any prison documentary and hear how straight male prisoners, weak in physicality, entered jail with no protection, got repeatedly raped, and now feel "liberated in their sexuality" and leave jail gay, if they don't commit suicide from the mental anguish of being raped for so long and giving up all control to others. Just one example, no need to get hung up on it.

In my mind, it's not possible for me to enjoy sex with a man. I do not have a choice in what I find sexually arousing.

If the choice was get your ass kicked to death or get raped, there might be a time when your pain threshold gives out and you want to live, even in ultimate misery. We do not have choices in our current mindsets until the mindset is broken by external factors.

It's really impossible to conclusively prove across a population, I can only say that this is how I understand my sexuality.

Then don't start with proving they're born that way. I have spoken in earnest with gay family members and friends and they cannot deny that the four factors I've presented all contributed some way to how they are today.

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Just because it can happen doesn't make it the rule. I'm willing to accept that a person can be conditioned into homosexuality, but I cannot accept that it's where all or even most instances can be traced to.

I'll take this as a gentleman's concession, and a starting point for you.

Would you say your friends would've been straight without those four factors? How do you think they'd answer that question?

We are all straight by default. The people who say homosexuality occurs in nature show you a study about a few hundred species of animals out of millions where "males have sex with males" as if they're doing it because they know what they're doing as opposed to being tricked by biology. Like these bugs go to a bar, eye each other from across the room, talk about their interests, and go home to have sex.

If your development has things like sexual trauma, a parent you hate or longed for, girls reject you, and you spend all your time with men or alone, there is a high chance you will be a homosexual if you don't take the steps to heal yourself from all the things that brought you to how you are today.

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In a 1991 study, Bailey and Pillard found that 52% of monozygotic (MZ) brothers and 22% of the dizygotic (DZ) twins were concordant for homosexuality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation

It has a genetic and environmental component, but no one knows what the environmental part is. It might even be something going on in the womb, no one is sure.

There is a great American Dad episode where Stan thinks that you can just become gay, so he decides to. It is a pretty funny argument that goes to the logical end of saying "being gay is a choice".

and how our species could not continue without a man and woman procreating.

Gays only make up about 5% of the population. Not to mention, they can still procreate. It's not like their reproductive organs don't work anymore.

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People are born with other serious genetic aberrations that would prevent our species from procreating. Still our species procreates. Thus, your argument is a straw man argument.

This does not, of course, make my answer correct. It only shows that your arguments are faulty and should be disregarded.

1) So you're saying homosexuality is a genetic aberration?

2) In fact, it's you who is making the strawman argument, because we're only talking about a sexual preference's effect on reproductive options, how it is not a preference you're born with (completely counter to evolution), and unless you're admitting it's a mutation it's something that's conditioned into us by things we shouldn't have experienced growing up (that is the combination of sexual trauma, parental relationship imbalances, rejection from the opposite sex, and isolation from the opposite sex - let's go ahead and look at prisoners as an example - have you ever heard about how many men turn to each other for sexual comfort in there? Same in women's jails.).

3) It is not something like being born infertile or without legs or things that are openly spoken about as undesirable traits without compromising the rights to life and happiness that the person still has. Also, the argument applies to a traditionally physically attractive person as it does to any kind of disabled or mutated person you want to conjure up.

But hey, I'm apparently making a strawman, unlike you, because I actually explained my points and didn't misquote myself.

My arguments are not faulty, yours clearly are.

[–]Warrior666 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

1) I am not a psychologist or neurologist, so I can't make definitive statements. Since you make definitive statements, I assume you are a psychologist or neurologist.

I do know, however, that most psychological conditions stem from both genetic predisposition and circumstances of upbringing. I also know, that in homosexuals, certain areas in the brain can be shown to by physically different than from heterosexuals. This has first been published more than 20 years ago.

2) You retro-define what we are discussing to make your first answer seem more to the point than it is. We did not discuss that. That question was, whether homosexuals are born that way, and my answer was yes. That's the context, nothing else.

3) I don't understand what this has to do with anything.

But hey, you out-alpha'ed me so bad with your strong scientific argumentation, my balls are retracting into my torso.

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