How effective or needed do you think TRP is in Europe?

niczar · 2014-08-28T11:36:55+00:00

German here. From what I've read there doesn't seem to be much difference in blue-pill mentality and female entitlement. AFBB and the carousel...it is the same here.

Perhaps hypergamy is not as strong here as in the US because of universal healthcare and welfare stuff. But it's still very real.

Oh and jock culture at school/college doesnt exist like this here in Germany.

But still...there is nothing here on trp that doesnt apply to Germany.

Soultrane9 · 2014-08-28T11:26:31+00:00

I live in Budapest, Hungary. You can catch really good ones here on the 0-2 dicks scale. The CC exists and if they start riding it it's the same. But you can find a small amount of sophomores in college who are still virgins (and not ugly, just self-image issues and such) and a significant amount who are in LDR with their high school beta / trying to get over them. Alphas basically are almost non-existent in the 20-30 year old bracket. I have met a handful of ~40 yo naturals but all of them were divorced, muscular and tattoo'd and nailed every freshman with uncontrollable daddy issues.

If you have muscle, frame and a nice apartment it's basically too easy.

dencrypt · 2014-08-28T10:03:11+00:00

Europe is part of the "westernized" world, until you get into the far eastern edges of it. As far as the beta male/feminism shit, that is probably the worst in Sweden than anywhere else. Sweden and Norway. UK, too.

SomebodyCool · 2014-08-28T12:19:16+00:00

Italian here. The country is still pretty traditionalist deep down, which means that outside of certain circles you still find that:

slut shaming is alive and well and hooking up with several randoms is a quick way to get a bad reputation
most women still want a marriage and kids for life (divorce rates are extremely low)
'dating' (the concept doesn't really translate) is seen as a courtship ritual in which both are expected to take part, the man by being gallant and the woman by being pleasant and putting out
traditional gender roles in marriage are still commonplace and pretty uncontroversial
there is no sexual assault hysteria

The (potential, depending on your point of view) downsides are:

shit tests are much more direct and in your face (but there are far fewer mind games)
most women tend to be sexually inexperienced and not open to less-than-vanilla stuff

The bottom line is that, in my opinion, American women make far better plates (especially in bed) but far worse LTRs.

niczar · 2014-08-28T10:56:15+00:00

The principles are the exact same, there are just differing implementation details. For instance there is no such thing as "dating" (by which I mean going on series of "dates", not being in a relationship) in France. I mean, people do something like it but it's not that formal. So there's no expectation of the chump paying to begin with. French women tend to be less hypocritical than Americans wrt sex. They still have a hamster, though.

exit_sandman · 2014-08-28T10:14:23+00:00

European here.

Apart from the fact that the legal situation is different from place to place (f.ex. regarding divorce and custody), the problems are the same - I have read stories that are like a blueprint of my own life (with some adjustments) from other places I doubt that it was wholly by chance. The feminist-influenced narrative is so pervasive in the West that if you aren't a people's person by nature (and even if you are) and lack proper male role models as an average guy, relying on dumb luck or dating way down are the only options you have.

cagethepepper · 2014-08-28T15:52:28+00:00

AFBB, CC, Hypergamy, Briffault's Law all apply.

This is my particular personal impressions of several places:

UK: Lots ride the CC without remorse, laws are slowly but surely benefiting women and encouraging single motherhood, like in the US. Divorce rate is similar to the US. In general, I find the quality of women here to be very low.

Germany: Similar to the UK, but new laws recently have been more supportive of fathers. A woman could take his kids away without any problem. Paternity leave is a lot more progressed as well. I'd take a German woman over a British one if I had to pick, but women don't seem to act/dress as feminine as in other countries. Birth rate is lower than Japan despite being Europe's economic powerhouse. Hmm, I wonder why.

Spain: As SomebodyCool said about Italy, women here seem to be much more careful. Spain does not provide as much social protection as the other northern countries so they can't afford to be too careless. Having said that, the divorce rate in Spain is above 60%!

Adding on to that, I know a Swedish girl who went through 30 guys in less than 3 years and she didn't seem bothered by it at all. I appreciated her honesty.

At the end of the day, however, everything TRP teaches applies, there's simply a few different laws and attitudes that differ between countries. Divorce rape and rape culture is not as prominent as in the US, but it's out there.

g4zda · 2014-08-28T18:29:50+00:00

Croatia. Some people are just as bad but others are quickly catching up. I give it 10 years before it's the same as "The West".

SkorchZang · 2014-08-28T10:14:10+00:00

Women are the same women everywhere world over. Been like that since the dawn of time. Keep your eyes open and at the very least don't take your mandatory blue pills, or they'll shred you.

2014-08-28T14:33:33+00:00

short answer is very.

trp offers universal truth, applicable everywhere.

WillClickOnAnything · 2014-08-28T14:39:18+00:00

Europe is included in the western world definition here.

averageredpill · 2014-08-28T14:39:18+00:00

I would like to add that in most Europe countries their culture and history shields them from fanaticism and radicals. Although there are of course entitled bitches but most countries have fair play regarding the sexes, and women in general are more educated and thus more respected.

Source: been to some europe countries.

exit_sandman · 2014-08-28T11:29:34+00:00

TRP knowledge applies to Europe just the same as America. Really it's the whole western world that's suffering from decreasing masculinity. Excluding some laws and social norms, everything is the same.

Source: am from northern Europe

drrrrrr · 2014-08-28T11:52:46+00:00

If you read this sub daily, why do you have this question? People are people - Sexual strategies may be different on a minutiae level, but women being attracted to alpha males, and power / wealth / a sculpted body / confidence will always help you. In any society, a top % of men will rise to the crust and enjoy the majority of the money, women, etc - you could have the perfectly constructed society, but TRP would be still be necessary because men not in the top 10% would still aspire to that height and want to learn how to make it happen.

cali_gunner · 2014-08-28T15:49:42+00:00

I love how OP poses the question like TRP is about something to do with Americans rather than men and women in general. Another case of someone thinking TRP is a high vocabulary word or karate move that is one size fits all.

The_Americano · 2014-08-28T17:08:18+00:00

How needed is TRP in Mars? Same question same answer. As long as there is women, trp is needed.

gt35r · 2014-08-28T16:02:32+00:00

While on the topic of this thread I actually had a question for OP or anyone really who reads and might have some insight. Since I'm not really interested in Caucasian girls (myself being American) I usually venture to those hispanic/asian women. I've noticed specifically that a lot of things I learned here don't resonate the same with different races. Has anyone else experienced that?

Esminia · 2014-08-28T18:06:07+00:00

A little less but still. Since behavior in male and female are both genetic and societal, and the societal aspect is in a better shape than the US.

sir_wankalot_here · 2014-08-28T10:16:56+00:00

Hello Shithead, it doesn't work in Europe. They recently found some tribe in Papua New Guinea. You should go there, because it hasn't been contaminated by western ideas.

Make sure you take lots of selfies as the tribal chief butchers you and eats your choice parts like your heart. He will then distribute your less choice parts to his warriors. Afterwards he will give your bones to his 10 wives which they will smash to suck the marrow out of.

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