Never date a single mom, it ain't worth the trouble :)

thetenman · 2014-08-16T03:30:34+00:00

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JP_Whoregan · 2014-08-16T02:51:33+00:00

Before TRP, I dated a single mom for four years, and I almost wound myself up in jail over trumped up "abuse" charges, even though I never laid a hand on her kids.

Listen to me and listen closely: When you are the man in a single mother relationship, the kid's word carries twice the weight that yours does. I had to show pictures, videos, and swear testimony to Child Protective Services last year (all because I took away the 9-year-old's iPhone (that I paid for) due to poor grades), to keep my ass out of jail. Luckily for me, her mother and I were broken up three months later (this sparked me to find TRP).

Men, listen: Stay the FUCK away from single mothers.

You may think you're "gaming" them into being plates. Fact of the matter is, a single mother KNOWS THE LAW, she's spent YEARS perfecting what she needs to extract maximum benefit from a man. Don't get involved. Period. I don't care how hot she is, I don't care what nonsense she feeds you.

I'm lucky to live in the state I live in, because in many states, i'd be on the hook for child extort after the amount of time elapsed.

There's PLENTY of nubile pussy out there. There's no need to acquiesce to single mothers.

bgat79 · 2014-08-16T08:15:40+00:00

theres plenty of valid points but it seems like it was written by someone barely literate. also.. "I've also heard that the nookie is even stretch out and it isn't the same anymore." ...umm some expert we have here.

I_like_code · 2014-08-16T07:00:46+00:00

I met up with an old friend from high school when I was 22. We used to hang out but never dated because I was going out with her best friend at the time. Either way I found out she got knocked up by some guy and ended up having a prom baby.

I was a bit naive and I really wanted to get it in. So I told her I wasn't looking for a relationship and just wanted to have fun. She was cool with being my fuck buddy at first. We would have a lot of sex for the following weeks. Little by little we would end up talking about relationship stuff and about her kid. She would show me pictures of her kid and talk about him which I didn't think was too weird but then she started to invite me on dates. I went out with her because I knew afterward I would get it in. I didn't realize I had involuntarily set myself up in a relationship with her.

Until one day she said "what role do you want to play in my kids life." I was baffled, I had no idea how I got myself into this. I wanted to keep having sex but I also didn't want to be a dad. I told her that I wanted to keep it casual. I ended up losing my fuck buddy but at least I didn't end up a step dad.

tl;dr- Meet up with old friend, she is a single mom now. We become fuck buddies. Tries to get me to be her kids dad little by little.

commandliner · 2014-08-16T03:13:58+00:00

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MartialWay · 2014-08-16T02:12:54+00:00

They make good plates assuming limited/no #15. I don't have to worry about #1.

Even if you're not in Cali, you would have to predict whether or not your own state might adopt a similar law anytime in the next 18 years. As fewer and fewer people start signing up for the suicide mission, they've got to start drafting people.

itwasntme19 · 2014-08-16T08:14:17+00:00

lots of good points here. look, I can't speak for everyone but living in a big city has its advantages because there are plenty of single girls compared to living in a small town. dealt with plenty of single moms but only for casual encounters. to much BS to deal with,lots of emotional scars,body don't look great no more.as to them being "loose" down there I can tell you,kids or no kids,if the girl doesn't exercise sex won't be so good.

as for some people here saying we aren't real men because we don't want to deal with "real life problems"? hey look,these single moms will always say they won't settle for just anyone. so why should we?

Ace-of-Spades88 · 2014-08-16T05:57:25+00:00

I'm not disagreeing with a lot of the points made in that post, but the dude could have gotten a lot more respect if he didn't write like a 12 year old. Jesus.

MordorsFinest · 2014-08-16T07:53:56+00:00

Why bother with another man's scraps? There's a reason why he ditched her.

Overkillengine · 2014-08-16T08:13:55+00:00

7) Decision Making and Judgment Skills Are On Display

This chick got knocked up by somebody that she was "supposedly in love with." Not only is she a bad judge of character, she's GROSSLY irresponsible. The same guy that's an inattentive, insensate, abusive a$$hole now, is the same guy she thought the world of and had unprotected sex with.

This is one men really need to be paying attention to if they are looking for a long term prospect. How many of these single moms are due to deception from a male versus just being stupid and trying to lock down a bad boy with a keep-a-man baby?

Lately it seems the latter far more often than the former. The consequences of ignoring all the glaring warning signs that a man is not interested in or capable of being a good father have largely been mitigated by welfare programs, the only real tool that single and responsible men have left is refusing to offer commitment or even the basest of attentions to a single mom, or ultimately risk being left holding the bill for another person's lack of responsibility.

And I say this as the son of a single mom and in the past a naive dumb-ass that gave single moms time that they later demonstrated that they did not deserve. Never again.

neveragoodtime · 2014-08-16T15:35:08+00:00

As a single dad, let me quickly explain the differences between dating a single dad and a single mother. For a single mother, you will never be number one, and she advertises this on her internet profile. For a single dad, you will just be another childish person he was put on this earth to take care of. Fathers are able to balance the responsibility of a relationship much better. I don't have to play favorites with my kids or my girlfriends, for some reason single moms just don't get that.

Also, since my ex married a single dad, I've watched how he's moved in to our former place, she already has him running errands for her like bringing the kids to my place. My son actually told me his mom said he didn't have to listen to this guy because "he wasn't the boss of the house." I couldn't believe, as much as I resented this guy, I had to tell my son, no you listen to him and follow his directions because he is an adult in the house. I don't care if he doesn't deserve my son's respect, I want my son to grow up as a respectful person, something his mom knows nothing about.

byronshadow · 2014-08-16T04:56:14+00:00

I always stress #2 to friends thinking of getting involved with a single mother. We have this cultural concept of the deadbeat dad vanishing into the night when his girlfriend tells him she's pregnant. In actuality many deadbeat dads randomly show up whenever they feel like playing at being a dad or fucking the mom.

RedBigMan · 2014-08-16T06:13:56+00:00

My issue is with #6...

The woman and her child always occupy #1 and #2 positions. So when you date a single mother you are automatically relegated to #3.

Most men can accept being #3 if the kid that is occupying the #1 or #2 position is their own though.

Lil_Dick_McFarts · 2014-08-18T22:18:41+00:00

That child support comment scares the shit out of me

jimmyjamm34 · 2014-08-16T13:12:57+00:00

fuckin shit.. it's "YOU'RE" NOT "YOUR"!

Exactly_what_I_think · 2014-08-16T01:20:14+00:00

They make good plates assuming limited/no #15. I don't have to worry about #1.

After the first bang they become a regularly scheduled plate. They don't have time for anything more then sex.

2014-08-16T14:56:01+00:00

Don't date single mums is great advice for the young guys here who might encounter some hot mummy in her 20s and think they can get in there and avoid the bullshit (they can't).

It's a different story when you're older. I'm in my 40s and despite improving I have to be realistic and say I'm not the kind of guy that's going to be macking the 20someting women. So I'm looking at women 30s and 40s, nearer my age.

And that's where it gets difficult. The older they are, the more likely that woman is to be a single mum, and by the time they're in their 40s you're looking not only at her having teenage children, but additional baggage. A childless woman over 35 is either infertile or has some other issue.

Maybe by the time a woman is in her 50s and her children have grown up and moved away it's not so bad, but obviously you would have to be into your old(er) women.

The point is despite the warnings and the overwhelming evidence that proves single mums are not really worth the bother unless your game is super-tight, some men will go for the gamble because either they have no/limited options, or the pull of the pussy is just too great.

Ideally a man would have nothing to do with a single mum, it's a slippery slope that starts off with the kids being in the background to full-on stand-in daddy with no viable escape route. But if your options are limited to single mums, make damn sure you can get out of there at any time, and make sure your frame is rock-solid, because it's going to take a battering.

edit: typos and relying too much on spellcheck.

ImALoneWolfBaby · 2014-08-16T05:38:31+00:00

Well I have actually considered it. Here is why, I want a kid but I don't want a baby. Adoption is hard especially as a single male so find a woman with a kid and there I go. Then again, my dogs are pretty much kids.

WingsnLV · 2014-08-16T06:34:46+00:00

This guy's grammatical errors negate any point he is trying to make.

doomsday290 · 2014-08-16T04:53:30+00:00

That number 10, dammit. Only that one is enough to convince me about not doing dating single mothers. I'm sure I'll miss the kids. That's the way I'm, I cannot help it.

VIIIMan · 2014-08-16T15:26:59+00:00

Keep in mind, that the older you get, the harder it gets to find a single women with no kids.

DazPatrick · 2014-08-16T04:25:47+00:00

I'm 26 seeing this one 40 year old. Kids are in late teens though. So far no trouble. Will post a field report if shit goes down

DistanceSkater · 2014-08-16T06:32:40+00:00

You guys on TRP blow me away...

How about don't fucking DATE anyone? Keep spinning them plates brahs, its the only way

Ohmyqueef · 2014-08-16T08:08:31+00:00

You know what's the weird shit? I've seen this sorta thing play out six times in high school, and it was all people i know dating girls with kids... In high school!!

2014-08-16T18:29:03+00:00

How many more of these don't date a single mother thread are y'all gonna post before you give it a rest?

iPCV · 2014-08-16T08:42:22+00:00

I have issues with just about every point that was made by the OP. In conclusion, it sounds like OP is just a bitch that isn't ready to deal with life. I am not even a father, I've only had to help raise younger siblings, and even so the things that are listed are things that any man should be able to deal with.

All I have to say for those of you guys who are dating those single moms. Yea, things aren't always smooth, but you are a man. Men deal with problems. If you are too much of a bitch to raise a child, worrying about your woman leaving you, not able to teach discipline, or pay an extra $10 for a kid's birthday cake... Then yes, you need not apply.

I thought TRP was all about the truth and being a man? Well, the truth is all relationships have problems and men would rather solve the problem than run away. Maybe I am misreading the whole thread and really, it's just a shit test and if you read it and all of a sudden you are afraid to date a woman because she has a kid then maybe that tells you something.

blue_27 · 2014-08-16T13:11:22+00:00

Yeah, my mom was a widow because my dad died of cancer. Fuck this bullshit forum post. I love my step-dad and he has been amazing to our family. If it wouldn't have been "worth the trouble" my little sister wouldn't have someone she can call daddy and he would still be thinking about killing himself living alone after his divorce. I liked this subreddit, but if this is how you nut jobs feel about marrying single women then I think I need to unsubscribe.

thetenman · 2014-08-16T14:05:31+00:00

Aside from the fact that it is some of the easiest NSA pussy going, there is no good reason to get mixed up with a single mother. If you decide to get involved with a single mother there are some simple rules to live by. 1. She should be one of many. This is true of all women but it goes doubly and triply for single mothers. 2. Delay meeting the child for as long as possible. This will make it difficult for you two to hang out, but that is only a problem if you are trying to get serious.

I am sure there are some other rules that others have, but these are mine.

Title	Never date a single mom, it ain't worth the trouble :)
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Date	August 16, 2014 12:58 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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