Possible negative correlation between alpha personality attributes and intelligence?

comefromspace · 2014-05-30T04:32:12+00:00

"The trouble with the world is that the idiots are cocksure, and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell

bohemian_fappsody · 2014-05-30T06:09:42+00:00

Me no understand.

maderail · 2014-05-30T05:26:04+00:00

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surgeon_general · 2014-05-30T07:03:03+00:00

What most intelligent (or rather, guys who believe they are very intelligent) forget is that there is more to intelligence than just academia and information-retention. For example, you have to be intelligent in a way to play sports at a pro / D1 level. Some meathead jock who you might think is a moron because he has a 2.4 gpa with business as his major... well, he's been practicing making quick, intense real-time decisions for several hours a day for the past 10 years. You see a dude chucking a football, in reality it's a guy rapidly synthesizing massive amounts of information in front of him and making a tough judgment call about who to pass to, how to get himself time to set up for a big throw, where to move to not get sacked, etc. You cannot be braindead and do that.

There is also emotional intelligence. Social intelligence - spend some time in sales and see who hustles the smartest. It's not the most intelligent people, it's the people who have this intuitive type of social perception that often "nerds" lack.

Women ARE attracted to intelligence insofar as they are attracted to resources (and your intelligence signals that you are a good candidate to acquire resources). They are attracted to nerdy intelligence, good decision making, stability, secure life plans and incomes, and all the things we associate with smart guys. They are not attracted, however, in the way you want them to be. They are attracted to this type of intelligence in the "hey, let's hold off on sex and use this guy as a meal plan (beta bucks)".

Since we presumably want to be in the alpha fucks role - and we do still want to keep our mental intelligence primed so we can go hard in our careers - it's very simple. Let go of your inhibitions, be OK being the dumb, fun guy, and let your SMV / status speak for your intellect. For example, I dress well, speak well, and have social tact/ charm. That is ALREADY speaking to my intelligence; she knows I'm not a moron because I have already communicated that I "get it". So any further trying to impress her with my intelligence is just going to slide me into the beta bucks role in her mind. Have fun, have retarded answers for her shit tests, lower the quality filter for what you say, be loud and unworried about coming across as "dumb". This actually communicates your social and emotional intelligence; you are showing that you know what she came to the club for. She came to switch off her brain and get retarded, and what does she find, an attractive guy who is already there. You are already at the party she is trying to get to.

It's the old school PU / sales technique of going first. You are in your head thinking and thinking, she gets in her head thinking, no sex. You switch your mind off and get into a good social, fun vibe... she gets into that vibe and her mind (read: her anti-slut defense) is no longer as switched on.

bonekeeper · 2014-05-30T05:04:57+00:00

Confirmed: It is harder to write an implementation of a radix tree in a whiteboard when your get distracted by a new vein in your jacked up forearm!

TheD_ · 2014-05-30T08:02:35+00:00

I think intelligence being inversely correlated to success with women is, boys who are intelligent, are expected by their parents to be massively approval seeking (good grades) in school. You spent your entire childhood, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week trying to seek the approval of adults and the authority structure of school. Naturally, this pattern carries over into the adult world.

xx3345 · 2014-05-30T05:13:01+00:00

I'ts not about being feminine or masculine or "alpha". It's about biological traits in any given population. There are women who are like intellectual/nerdy guys. They are just the minority of the population.

This isn't about 'effeminacy' this is about higher intelligent men tend to engage the world as a rational place. The best nerds I know their "beta" traits are usually a godsend because they can disconnect themselves from the drama, what makes them "beta" is simply because the male sex drive is so god damn powerful. Our "beta" traits when we are not starving for affection/being lonely are extremely powerful in all sorts of situations.

Being kind, generous, "soft", is only a negative where most of the population does not work according to those traits (aka your modus operandi for existing in the world).

It's not that being kind/soft is weak, it's largely that no one knows how to raise sensitive intelligent kids. So sensitive kids are prone to not developing because the group doesn't share their characteristics.

I think of my own parents and am horrified at just how many soft hearted intellectual boys are being raised by clueless people.

It's not that having a soft heart is a weakness, it's that it's a weakness only in a given context without understanding.

Medikamina · 2014-05-30T07:54:49+00:00

I'd say it makes a lot of sense and it's something I've come across before. I mean, take the typical shy guy with self-esteem issues. Some serious (over) analysis goes into that thinking, weight up everything, pros and cons of everything... imagining and running through EVERY scenario that could possibly come out of a simple interaction. Intelligent people are also much more likely recognise their deficits and blow them out of proportion 'damn it I got x and y wrong whilst at the in the exam/at the hospital today' instead of noticing the other 98 questions they got right. Breeds insecurity and confidence issues.

Less intelligent people tend not to 'think' about consequences as much, they often tend to be a little more selfish. They probably spend less time in books and more time with friends getting drunk in their teenage years.

Gross oversimplification, absolutely. There are a hell of a lot more things going through my head right now in relation to this, but have to run.

2014-05-30T03:14:46+00:00

Stable economic conditions show increased intelligence in a population. The stable economic conditions also foster feminism.

They are two trends that become entwined in eras of stability, which means that those in unstable economic influences have lower education and intelligence plus lower exposure to feminism.

It isn't that masculinity produces stupid people, it's feminism has a greater effeminate influence on intelligent populations.

thebears1986 · 2014-05-30T03:26:39+00:00

The guys with alpha personality typically self-select themselves out of software right from the gate or within a few years.

3 of my EE friends never turned on a power supply after college. They went directly into IT sales positions. A few went into various fields within finance or management/technical consulting. A bunch did the 2-4 years as an engineer then went to business school. A few went to law school and do M&A, IP, litigation, etc.

What you are seeing is a field often populated by beta type people and introverts. The ones who stay as W-2 employees typically don't like risk and do like the idea of a steady paycheck so you get what you have at your company. Most of my friends who did stay as engineers now operate as self-employed consultants. They make more money and their own destiny. Some people just can't work for the man.

That's where the alpha types went.

FortunateBum · 2014-05-30T03:06:16+00:00

I agree that there is definitely some correlation between effeminancy and intelligence.

The classic intellectual is meek, unassuming, laid back, beard, pipe, smoking jacket, unaggressive, soft spoken.

Sometimes I think thinking itself makes you more effeminate somehow. I don't know.

I also think nerdy effeminate guys are way horny. Probably hornier than jocks even. Why this is, I got no idea.

I know the scientific evidence shows that women are absolutely not attracted to intelligence. I don't think they're turned off by it, I just don't think they care.

What this all means, I have no idea.

VincentPrice · 2014-05-30T05:31:21+00:00

There's a known negative correlation between intelligence and fertility. Not sure how that applies to your theory, but maybe its a sexual selection thing.

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exit_sandman · 2014-05-30T09:16:49+00:00

Crippling overspecialization.

Intelligence fosters a lifestyle that's more education-oriented (because that's what one is good at, and, probably more important, better at than most others), meaning that you read instead of doing sports or hanging out. In turn, while one is getting better and better at scientifically relevant skills, one's phyiscal and social skills atropy to some extent - probably also because of the lack of the time to do something about it (during my time at MENSA, one of the most-often heard complaints from the members was that they wished they had more time for their interests).

Apart from that, since intelligence is one's (perceived) greatest asset, one also tends to overanalyze things, especially the other sex, which not only leads to lots of brainfucking and hesitation, but is another problem in itself - as The Rational Male has put it: You can't negotiate (aka rationalize) genuine desire.

cooltrip · 2014-05-30T09:22:02+00:00

I somehow agree.

For some natural reason (perhaps some evolutionary reason), the man with the best physique won't have the best intelligence, and the man with the best intelligence won't have the best physique.

Feminists, tho, like women in general, will prefer the man with the best physique.

jsl2837 · 2014-05-30T11:47:39+00:00

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What is this?

Subtletorious · 2014-05-30T07:09:35+00:00

Wild-arsed speculation: It could be your testosterone levels are being cranked up.

Testosterone causes the mind to be focused - "Must kill buffalo!" "Must fuck woman!" If your job requires "multi-tasking" or non-linear problem solving the increased goal-orientated focus could be a problem.

Maybe wear one-sie pajamas, drink soy milk and watch more Ellen.

throwawaymydrugs · 2014-05-30T12:58:51+00:00

From my own experience (personal and observed), I would agree.

I have always been in the top of my class intelligence wise, and definitely suffered socially for it pre-college. I.e., before I learned how to really override the analytical nature and let loose (hint, mindfulness meditation).

Recently however, I've noticed another correlation that I think might be relevant to this. I started lifting heavy 8 months ago, and have now packed on some decent muscle. The stronger I get, and the more testosterone my body produces seems to be dumbing me down. I have noticed a definite (albeit slight) decrease in my mental capacity and a change in interests - but I am happier overall, and I am still fully capable of high caliber work.

I work in a hard science field, and agree wholeheartedly with your statements about the presence of betas. I recently began work in a new lab where the majority of people are female, and their shit-testing is so easy to spot and pass because they are just surrounded by more effeminate men.

2014-05-30T04:03:24+00:00

I think intelligence is heavily connected to adolescence or childhood. Its the pleasure in curiosity and growth itself, rather than growth for sexual and romantic validation, which is never sidetracked with sexual nuances of relationships. Men don't traditionally compete intellectually with women and this makes the energy expenditure of chasing or keeping the typical woman cause intellectual loss.

BustinAllKindsOfNuts · 2014-05-30T07:57:18+00:00

An example of this phenomenon would be Russell Brand. I encourage you to view his interviews with lady journalists on YouTube.

PaulRivers10 · 2014-05-30T09:03:20+00:00

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wall-of-meth · 2014-05-30T15:02:34+00:00

You see a lot of douches around. And no, they aren't high value (using his instead of "alpha"), they are assholes and often completely clueless what they want in life besides driving their BMW. So, there are many stupid assholes out there.

Those, who are high value, won't be found without taking a closer look. A lot of people seem high value but are vapor behind their usual phrases. Also, you can see a big part of how high of value a person is by looking at their social circle. Those who you call "alphas" - but are stupid - probably have stupid friends, so they aren't high value, they just seem like being it.

Here on /r/theredpill you still see some people who think they know all of it, yet write the stupidest comments because of being narrow minded.

Nevertheless, the majority of people on this subreddit who post/comment have analytical capabilites and use them. Also, by what they write, they seem to very well understand what TRP and being high value is about. They seem high value and clever.

You probably see a lot of people tryharding and boasting with themselves, banging girls left and right, but they aren't neccessarily high value. High value means having an overall fullfilled life and then you don't need to boast or drive the pimped BMW, you show by example (in your actions) what real value is.

Real "alphas" aren't common and there is a high chance the people you think are "alphas" just are tryhards or warm words.

To the fact that you either perform good at job or working out, but not both at the same time:

You need to focus on yourself more outside of activites. Maybe learn how to meditate to learn focusing.

Another thing, I want to add:

These stupid people don't know what caring and planning is, so they don't care about anything. Not even for themselves in fact. They decide in right that second what they want, they don't decide based on principles. They basically are programmed to get nowhere in life since they don't know what they want unless it's right in front of them.

TL;DR: Read it. Stupid people who seem "alpha", aren't "alpha". High value people are clever.

rico_montoya · 2014-05-30T04:35:10+00:00

It seems that an alpha personality is almost always accompanied by a lack of intelligence or more specifically analytical skills

Depends on what your definition of Alpha is

noblepaladin · 2014-05-30T04:00:30+00:00

I disagree. The software industry does attract a lot of betas, mainly because it is a high paying field that is very friendly to loners. You don't have to deal with clients like lawyers, consultants, or bankers do. You don't have to deal with patients like doctors do. So it attracts intelligent people with low social skills. The more socially intelligent people often avoid programming because it is such lone wolf type of profession. If you go to Wall Street and you'll find intelligent sharks that all graduated from the top schools with top GPAs. People with social skills and the same intellect as the best programmers make more money in other professions.

I used to think like you did, because I was a programmer too before I switched professions. People also tend to date within the same profession or within periphery professions. If you take a trip to the financial or business district of a large city like New York or Boston, you'll see very well dressed and groomed men and women. Since that is where they spend most of their time, it is no surprise that is where they find their potential partners. One thing that I don't like about the programming profession is that it is too casual, which I think actually leads to a downward spiral in many life skills. If you are in a field where everybody is fit, well groomed, and wearing tailored clothes, it will put tremendous pressure on you to up your game. Programmers will argue that it is stupid and it has nothing to do with work productivity, and they may be right in that aspect, but it is not a bad thing to be forced to operate at a higher standard.

Also, like you, I used to have trouble switching my brain from social mode to logic mode. If I am thinking hard and people start talking to me, I will only give one word answers and mumbles. If I am being very sociable, I cannot get back into logic mode very quickly. It took 5-10 minutes to switch over. Also, because it took so much concentration to be sociable and to be alpha, my mind is preoccupied and cannot think about difficult problems. However, with practice, I became better at doing two things at once.

Finally, unintelligent people are typically extremely beta. You probably just don't know enough of them. People here often adopt the Hollywood portrayal of dumb or poor people. For example, the alpha big muscular black gangbanger stereotype. That is not what dumb or poor or black people actually look like in real life.

jerryandjerrysizzler · 2014-05-30T04:24:04+00:00

There are really different types of intelligences. The alpha tends to have a greater degree of social intelligence while maybe lacking the attention to detail possessed by the beta intellectual.

However, it's difficult to say definitively because plenty of alpha roles - say, military professional - just don't have the luxury of the beta theoretician who's able to pour over all the factors in immense detail and devote his entire career to a few issues.

I would just reiterate the different types of intelligence involved. The alpha emanates leadership, and implicit in leadership is being decisive which means cutting off the deliberation at some point.

2014-05-30T09:42:43+00:00

Being Alpha doesn't make you dumb, it is more likely that dumb people just come across as more alpha because they do their own thing and don't give a fuck.

circlhat · 2014-05-30T14:00:46+00:00

Time and time again I have noticed that whenever I start to workout more, increase my risk tolerance and intentionally force myself to become more alpha... my job performance goes down.

This absolutely makes no sense what so ever. Exercise gives me more energy and clears my mind .

It seems that an alpha personality is almost always accompanied by a lack of intelligence or more specifically analytical skills.

Programmers study and follow instructions, I'm a programmer so when I approached women I studied blue pill beliefs, if I had of found alpha beliefs I would of studied that.

My Beta and BP Traits were taught and learned, When i was 10 I was alpha as fuck, I would talk to women with balls of steel. As I got older, and watch more TV I became more BP

IllimitableMan · 2014-05-30T15:11:53+00:00

Anecdotal: knew a guy who was dim as fuck, I'm talking really dim, would not understand a lot of sarcasm/puns/concepts, he was just slow in terms of wit and academics. You'd pick it up if you spoke to him. Was undoubtedly left of the bell curve. Guy used to slay the pussy and had an abundance of confidence. He was not especially good looking either. If a chick rejected him he'd just make a joke at her expense, laugh, and walk off. Often times that was enough to get the chick to change her mind and they'd end up banging. If he got rejected once he'd try again later, often chicks just want to fuck your audacity, I think he got a lot of lays by continuing to flirt at a later date post-rejection. Unlike smarter guys, he had no sense of pride when it came to women, he would fuck hot chicks, ugly chicks and not get too bothered when chicks rejected him. He banged A LOT OF chicks. Think he even got himself a few curable STIs, lucky guy.

By the time he had hit 18 he was in the early double digits for lays which is way above what most guys are managing. While we all sit on internet forums theorising and coming up with philosophy to explain female behaviour and learning in the process, there are plenty of dumb guys who "just get it" and are naturals as a result. He didn't have a particularly hairy face either (couldn't grow a beard or moustache) so that seems to rule out being High T. If you asked him how he got girls he wouldn't have the awareness and intelligence to articulate it to you, "he just did it."

Since reading TRP I retrospectively deduced he had built-in abundance mentality + amused mastery. When bitches did reject him (and it happened a lot) he'd just look for new ones online/offline. The guy was pretty dedicated to getting laid, and no he's never read PUA/manosphere shit. Was always one of those guys who had "too many friends" on his social media. He was neither rich nor good looking either, just extremely social and audacious. We don't keep in touch anymore, now tinders out he's probably slaying it tenfold.

sagarsash · 2014-05-30T08:18:01+00:00

I wouldn't agree totally with this.

I think the specific group you identified, ie the typical "nerd" stereotype, will always be beta. It's just part of their persona.

However, not all clever people are nerds. I'm a medical student and there are quite a few alpha guys around here, probably because med school admissions demands much more than just academics. And of course, we all know that girls fall for doctors every time.

HumanSockPuppet · 2014-05-30T15:32:42+00:00

First, define intelligence.

From what I've observed, if a person is "effective in their environment", people describe them as intelligent. A man using a rock to open a coconut. Or using a ballpoint pen to get inside of a locked computer case when the key is missing.

From this perspective, a man who dials back his need for intellectual commentary and analysis in the interest of not alienating people would be more "effective" than one who feels the need to show off and loses allies in the process.

jacks1000 · 2014-05-30T16:06:23+00:00

It seems that an alpha personality is almost always accompanied by a lack of intelligence or more specifically analytical skills. I have yet to meet someone who possessed high degree of both of these attributes at the same time.

Many of the most intelligent people I have met have been confident with "alpha" personalities. They have often been physically attractive as well. There is a correlation between intelligence and beauty.

I have noticed that virtually every ugly, shy nerd in high school believes themselves to be some undiscovered genius that will one day "win" over the "dumb jocks" due to their supposed intellectual advantages.

It's usually just wishful thinking on their part.

pauly_pants · 2014-05-30T16:15:43+00:00

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vengefully_yours · 2014-05-30T16:20:18+00:00

I don't know, its an interesting question. Having been tested as well as having multiple technical fields come quite easily to me, I know I am well above average and the mean, getting into the thinner end of the bell curve. Yet I am not one you would look at and assume high intellect, as I look like a power lifter with no neck. Many alpha traits come naturally to me and I had to be taught the hard way in the military to be more beta with females.

I'm not the geek or nerd and I have no passion for coding, though I can program CNC machines and learn languages easily. Perhaps its how my intellect can refine processes, fit dissimilar systems together with coherence, and take from widely disparate subjects to improve the process, that makes me able to pick up girls, lead, lift heavy shit, and also comprehend complex systems, ideas, and theories.

Maybe its simply your paradigm that to be smart, you have to be a certain way, geeky and shit with women, with few or no alpha traits. Perhaps its something different in our minds that let's me be somewhat of a jock and a brain nearly seamlessly. It could be the interest levels required aren't there, but the biological drive is still present, so you haven't acquired the knowledge of how to fit it all together.

You could be well above my IQ in some areas, its not an easy thing to test and different minds see widely varied things in the same picture, so we don't see the same way. I might be higher in some aspects that fit better with women due to experience in my life. Eg. If I had grown up in a different environment where physical labor wasn't required on a daily basis, in the middle of nowhere over 20 miles from the nearest females, with computers at my disposal, I may have been shit with women as well.

How much is nature v nurture? What effects do environment and situations have on development? Humans adapt to where they live, but something like intellect is more or less inherent rather than learned, you don't lose it without head trauma. It might be that if your environment requires you learn people skills early, you don't learn to fit them together well, also if you are never in a leadership role you might never develop that aspect of human interactions. I had no choice in learning that as well as self reliance and spatial skills, it was forced on me at an early age. Without a control group or at least knowing most of the unknowns, its unlikely we will ever discover if there is a correlation between intellect and alpha traits.

You would have to find very intelligent alphas, and I learned long ago to hide that part of myself to fit in with society and not get my ass kicked. I cant possibly be that unique, so I am either a blithering idiot, shit with women and deluding myself, or there are others not too dissimilar from me who are also hiding it to fit in with their proletarian environment.

psychologyprofessor · 2014-05-30T19:39:05+00:00

I think OP could benefit from reading the book Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking

It helped me understand my own introversion. There is nothing wrong with being introverted. I think you can be introverted and Alpha. What you can't be is shy and Alpha. Shyness is the fear of social situations. Being introverted does not mean you are shy. Being introverted means fundamentally that your brain is more "sensitive". By sensitive I mean you are more likely to be emotionally moved by beautiful music, a well turned phrase or perhaps elegant coding as a programing. Quieter activities are more rewarding to you than some boisterous alpha idiot.

I've been told by a number of woman that "when you talk intelligently it's sexy"

My responses in the past have been: "Well, I am adorable" or "I know, I think talk words good" or "I'm smarter than my brain"

When a woman is my intellectual equal it immediately raises her attractiveness in my book. Birds of feather flock together. MIT found that college freshman couples that scored similarly on college entrance exams where more likely to still be together as college seniors. More here: http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/brain-and-cognitive-sciences/9-00-introduction-to-psychology-fall-2004/lecture-notes/14-social-exchange-romantic-economics/

tl;dr Being an introverted programmer doesn't mean you can't be alpha. Intelligence is sexy.

comefromspace · 2014-05-30T20:53:49+00:00

What you observe as 'less alpha' is probably the result of years and introversion and relative social isolation, which correlates with high intelligence. What these guys lacked is more camaraderie which would help them build confidence. I don't buy your personal anecdote at all , though, "acting alpha" does not take a toll at intelligence , quite the opposite probably, usually job performance goes up with physical exercise and increased testosterone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_giftedness

knitro · 2014-05-30T21:16:32+00:00

Here's the problem - you've conflated analytical ability with intelligence. They're related but not how you think.

A hallmark of messed up relationships or chances with a girl (in my own experience) is overanalysis - Why did she text that, why did she cancel, why did she say one thing but do another, who was that one friend she was talking to when I showed up, etc.

You think that unlocking the answers to these sorts of things will be enlightening, but really these are all manifestations of insecurity and are not attractive.

It's not that 'alphas' aren't intelligent, per se - it's that in intergender relationships they turn off or turn down that desire to get to the very bottom of everything - you don't need to 'solve the girl'. That analytical bend that is very necessary in other aspects of life, namely work or school, doesn't serve you as well in dating. It's a hard thing to do and only comes with time and experience.

For me personally, the biggest thing was realizing the flippant, frivolous nature of meeting and dating girls meant that I really should not sweat the small stuff - so much of it is out of your control. There's a million reasons it doesn't work out or does, and only a small percentage have anything do with you. Enjoy the ride, stay true to yourself and things tend to work out.

PaulRivers10 · 2014-05-31T00:43:41+00:00

Lots of good responses, I think some of it is that women are attracted to power and competence in a man - that they can understand and respect.

Women are more social than men, so they know and understand social power and competence. Plus it's something they've been doing since they were small children, before hormones even hit (being social, trying to read social signals, etc). Understanding social power - something they're very attuned to, and something that's important to them. It's something they understand very well, and respect.

But programming - unless they're working in programming, they don't understand it. They don't know the idiots from the geniuses. It's not important to them either - it's part not of their everyday lives. They have no idea who has status in your group, who has social status, who's good at it - it's a complete mystery to them.

It's like - have you heard that in Japan (I believe) that women used to wear wraps around their feet to keep their feet unusually small, and this was considered very attractive to men?

It's like one of those girls came up to you and started flirting with you. You don't even know what that means. The symbols of attractiveness and such - they're not the same in your world as they are in hers. If you were a Japanese man from where she's from, you'd probably be very turned on. But - you're not. It's meaningless noise to you.

A pushup bra and boobs to you - daaaaaaaamn. But put the japanese guy from that girls time period in front of a girl with that, and he doesn't know how to interpet that. He might just think it's weird.

Even as a programmer, I've often been fooled into thinking other programmers were smart about programming - until I worked directly with them and realized they weren't. A woman who doesn't work in programming really cannot tell the difference. Your impressive skills just don't register for her, because she doesn't know the difference between a genius and an idiot, so her emotions ignore the whole thing.

2014-05-30T09:37:05+00:00

I work in a high skilled blue collar industry filled with guys divorced three times over and who were that one jock in highschool who "got all the girls". The few ugly females in my workplace bring out the beta in all of them, and I notice it now that I've taken the red pill...

r/TheRedPill seems to have the belief that only a guy, in every way like James Bond, gets the girls... I have met hundreds of girls that the fictional James Bond would take a bullet for, and not one guy who represented 1/4th of that fictional characters traits... I don't know what this means, but I'm sure everyone has thought "what is that girl doing with him?" to every degree of that statement, post redpill included...

As for your work ethic hitting the wall, mine improves as I try to improve myself, it's like getting more gears working... maybe you're lacking focus? Do you think girls judge you on your position? Or maybe you hate your job? Figure that shit out... It's weird...

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