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Some guys name a program "bro". White knights emerge to save women from masculine words.

trpArtVandelay

January 27, 2014
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Title Some guys name a program "bro". White knights emerge to save women from masculine words.
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trpArtVandelay

Upvotes 48
Comments 60
Date January 27, 2014 5:42 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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[–]phasetwenty29 points30 points31 points 12 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

It's too practical to be called anything else. It's a complement to the man program, which displays manual pages. bro is easily remembered because of the bro/man male association. It also conveys an informal, friendly tone simply in its name.

It's like the tiniest possible thing you could politicize.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself26 points27 points28 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Why don't we have WOmanuals? Patriarchy strikes again! /s

[–]attaxx 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

womynuals

FTFY

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're right. Forgot to typecast my privilege,

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Upvoting for CS humor.

[–]Notinjuschillin0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Wo: Latin word for from. Woman = from man.

[–]ReturnThroughAether0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nope. Latin "femina" is where we derive female, but it looks like "woman" is from Old English.

[–]autowikibot0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's the linked section Etymology from Wikipedia article Woman :


The spelling of woman in English has progressed over the past millennium from wīfmann to wīmmann to wumman, and finally, the modern spelling woman. In Old English, wīfmann meant "female human", whereas wēr meant "male human". Mann or monn had a gender-neutral meaning of "human", corresponding to Modern English "person" or "someone", however subsequent to the Norman Conquest, man began to be used more in reference to "male human", and by the late 1200s had begun to eclipse usage of the older term wēr. The medial labial consonants f and m in wīfmann coalesced into the modern form "woman", while the initial element, which meant "female", underwent semantic narrowing to the sense of a married woman ("wife"). It is a popular misconception that the term "woman" is etymologically connected with "womb", which is from a separate Old English word, wambe meaning "stomach" (of male or female). Nevertheless, such a false derivation of "woman" has appeared in print.

A very common Indo-European root for woman, *gwen-, is the source of modern English "queen" (Old English cwēn had primarily meant woman, highborn or not; this is still the case in Danish, with the modern spelling kvinde, as well as in Swedish kvinna). The word gynaecology is also derived from the Ancient Greek cognate γυνή gynē, woman. Other English words traceable to the same Indo-European root include banshee "fairy woman" (from Irish bean "woman" and sí "fairy") and zenana (from Persian زن zan).

The Latin fēmina, whence ... (Truncated at 1500 characters)


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[–]allinonebot0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's the linked section Etymology from Wikipedia article Woman :


The spelling of woman in English has progressed over the past millennium from wīfmann to wīmmann to wumman, and finally, the modern spelling woman. In Old English, wīfmann meant "female human", whereas wēr meant "male human". Mann or monn had a gender-neutral meaning of "human", corresponding to Modern English "person" or "someone", however subsequent to the Norman Conquest, man began to be used more in reference to "male human", and by the late 1200s had begun to eclipse usage of the older term wēr. The medial labial consonants f and m in wīfmann coalesced into the modern form "woman", while the initial element, which meant "female", underwent semantic narrowing to the sense of a married woman ("wife"). It is a popular misconception that the term "woman" is etymologically connected with "womb", which is from a separate Old English word, wambe meaning "stomach" (of male or female). Nevertheless, such a false derivation of "woman" has appeared in print.

A very common Indo-European root for woman, *gwen-, is the source of modern English "queen" (Old English cwēn had primarily meant woman, highborn or not; this is still the case in Danish, with the modern spelling kvinde, as well as in Swedish kvinna). The word gynaecology is also derived from the Ancient Greek cognate γυνή gynē, woman. Other English words traceable to the same Indo-European root include banshee "fairy woman" (from Irish bean "woman" and sí "fairy") and zenana (from Persian زن zan).

The Latin fēmina, whence ... (Truncated at 1500 characters)


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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Troubleshoot your privilege.

[–]santaincarnate2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Because it's not the operating system's job to educate you, shitlord.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I feel raped just reading your comment, asshole. Where's my free money?

[–]12FAM0US9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's like the tiniest possible thing you could politicize.

/r/srsmicroaggressions

[–]attaxx 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

oh god that exists.

[–]trpArtVandelay[S] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sweet jesus, I thought that was a parody at first.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All comments are to be in good faith. If it's posted here, it's a microaggression. No second-guessing or "I don't think this is that bad."

From the sidebar. Remember, no second-guessing! If it feels like a microaggression, it is a microaggression.

[–]DavidTIntellectual0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love how SJWs claim to hate STEM... yet also feel an acute need to police it.

[–]Space_Ninja26 points27 points28 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

love playing Cards Against Humanity, and still find this name highly problematic

There's that word again.

[–]Human_v221 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"I have an uncomfortable reaction to your use of the word and after logical inspection can find no sound reason for it. I am unwilling to question my feelings thus there must be a problem with the word, I just don't know what it is."

[–]Endevour 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the word they use for everything they just don't like, but can't make any solid arguments against without seeming like douches.

[–]trpArtVandelay[S] 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it's funny that they use "playing cards against humanity" like it's some sort of defense against being absurdly over sensitive. Nope dude, you still have your balls trapped in your purse no matter how edgy you think a card game makes you.

[–]DavidTIntellectual1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a massive SJW shibboleth, right there.

[–]Spartacus321 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually used to use that word before I reddited. I stopped after I saw that it's a buzz word now.

[–]deirox 25 points25 points25 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't understand why women view male-dominated industries as something bad, something that needs to be fixed.

"We need more women in programming."

OK, but why?

[–]trpArtVandelay[S] 27 points28 points29 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Because programming is a huge thorn in feminisms side. We have a community that will bend over backwards for women, yet hardly any women want to work in the industry, despite the fact that it pays well and has good benefits. I mean you see these white knights falling over themselves to welcome women, but why don't the women appear?

The feminist explanation is that, since obviously women and men are intellectual peers (of course), it must be that men are keeping women out. The rational explanation is that most women just don't give a shit about programming or anything mathematical or mechanical. You can realize that part by, you know, just talking with women. And the notion that they're "socialized" out of it is bullshit. If you've ever been in a programming class with a woman (especially an attractive one), you'll notice that they have a LOT of support. If anything, it's the number of beta clingers that probably drives them away.

There aren't a lot of women programmers because most women just aren't interested. It doesn't matter that it's a good profession, they just do not give a fuck. But since that contradicts the feminist narrative, obviously a bunch of nerds are bullying women away from it. Gotta stop using the word "bro" because it makes people feel "excluded"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think its more to do with the fact that women's brains don't really work the way programmers brain's work. Their not object orientated-problem solving-efficiency maximising-hunting etc. etc.

[–]acedeucetrey14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Just as logical as: "We need more women in jail."

[–]dominotw0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

" If one were to look downward to the bottom of society instead, one finds mostly men there too. Who’s in prison, all over the world, as criminals or political prisoners? The population on Death Row has never approached 51% female. Who’s homeless? Again, mostly men. Whom does society use for bad or dangerous jobs? US Department of Labor statistics report that 93% of the people killed on the job are men. Likewise, who gets killed in battle? Even in today’s American army, which has made much of integrating the sexes and putting women into combat, the risks aren’t equal. This year we passed the milestone of 3,000 deaths in Iraq, and of those, 2,938 were men, 62 were women."

http://denisdutton.com/baumeister.htm

[–]Abbrevi88 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They never seem to want more women in construction for some reason.

[–]myotheraccountisa9119 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Or coal miners or janitors or bouncers or security guards or ..........

[–]12FAM0US7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

or infantry

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because they can understand the disparity in physical strength but can't wrap their hampster around the fact that men have better logical processing and different interests in life as well.

[–]MightyCrotch0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but why?

A question I've wondered myself... IMHO it's about power. Code is law in the digital world.

There's a reason there's no "Men Learning Early Childhood Education" or "Male Nurse Club" ... or even "Ladies Learning Oil Rigs", or "Girl Boilermakers" ... there's no power to be had there. Code on the other hand is a huge enabler -- feminists see it being dominated by men (who are naturally drawn to it) and that's a problem for them.

[+]benczi-6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's simple really, it's much more fun to work with a few girls in the room, than only guys.

[–]tehwankingwalruses6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is my only gripe about HN. 1/3 recognize the stupidity. 1/3 are weak men who tip toe around this shit like its SRSMEN. The other 1/3 are just hardcore white knights.

[–]trpArtVandelay[S] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is,in their zeal to be "not reddit" and a place for "serious discussion" they pretty much outlawed humor. And frankly the only way to deal with the srs style brigade is to make fun of them, because nobody in their right mind should dignify their viewpoint.

[–]PrisonerOfLife12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

bro curl

curl bro

I like this guy.

[–]lemon_snowCone 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

bro man is a personal fav

[+]redditpro420-10 points-9 points-8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

uh, curl is a utility for getting the html headers from a webpage

[–][deleted] 7 points7 points7 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]whatever612 points13 points14 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Just because other programmers are bitches does not mean you have to be or are going to become one.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP can put you in charge of those programmers in a matter of months if you play your cards right.

[–]trpArtVandelay[S] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Programming is great. Don't worry about the stereotypes, not everyone is beta bux there.

[–]imarcink2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is a great profession. I recommend, as long as you don't mind perpetual learning and thinking all day long. Aside from the constant puzzle solving nature of writing software, there can be a lot of tedious practises like code reviews and graphing things.

I usually suggest learning to code and trying to work it in to your existing life as a way of automating parts of your jobs and increasing your employability. Automating a bunch of the tedious tasks in your office, or analyzing sales data or whatever.

The stereotype of the beta programmers is probably rather accurate. Most of the great programmers I know spend a lot of their spare time working on the things they would otherwise get paid for on top of their regular jobs, certainly when they were younger and other guys were out doing traditional stuff.

[–]dominotw1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't worry there aren't any actual women to white knight in the profession. I've been a programmer for more that 10 years and only once I worked with a female colleague.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Please join us! Don't be intimidated by these people.

Feminist activists pick fights about things no one else cares about. As a result, they'll inevitably feel stronger than everyone about their issue du jour, and their viewpoint will inevitably be over-represented in any given discussion. And wherever there is male success, they will try to invade. You can't run away from them forever.

But you know what? You shouldn't be running away from them. Do not let bullies control what you do.

At the very least, you should ignore them and continue improving yourself. Ideally, you'll stand up for yourself (and for other men) when they try to beat you down.

[–]phasetwenty1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This event is a blip in the radar of problems in this industry. Don't let it bother you. It's a very lucrative profession, doubly so if you can get yourself to one of the tech hubs.

[–]rapreaper1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Name a program with a word that is more "welcoming" to women and they don't complain about: oh using such words alienates men and is not all inclusive. Instead, they'll say: "Glad to see women being included and shown in a better light you go bro!"

Pussies that's what they are. Retards are everywhere.

[–]redpilldude1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The locker-room atmosphere that stuff like this creates is a huge barrier to entry for a lot of people, women especially, who infer that on top of all the technically difficult stuff that everyone has to learn to be CS types, they'll also have to deal with a constant barrage of "you're not our kind" flung at them by the in-group.

LOL. "Bro" is looker-room talk now? Where the fuck do these white knights live?

When I was in high school, we used to talk about which girls we'd like to fuck in the ass in the locker room. Wtf do guys talk about in the locker-room now?

[–]da-way1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

OP, please add flair. It helps with framing your submission and helps with signal/noise ratio.

Thank you

[–]trpArtVandelay[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Added.

[–]wheyproteinisolate1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

what I would say: If you like the bro project, please help out. If you for some reason find the command "bro" to be incompatible with your political beliefs, you are free to fork the project (which is open source btw) and create a gender-neutral command, whatever. However, what is stupid, inane, and an archetype of "death by committee" is to argue about the name of the command before we've even started working on the project. We don't need anyone working on this who cares more about politics than functionality..

[–]ReturnThroughAether0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It is a joke, by men, about men, in regards to programming. To reiterate: a joke, regarding programming, written by men, that completely disregards women.

TIL a joke needs to incorporate every sex/race/gender/creed/ethnicity/headmate or else it's not acceptable.

[–]boydeer3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

a rabbi, a priest, and a construction worker walk into a bar.

WHAT ABOUT WOMEN?!!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TIL that jokes need to be politically correct and serious.

[–]pro_skub0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, well it's HN. There's a reason I never read HN comments and stick to the links, which sometimes are interesting.

[–]Knight_of_autumn0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

This part here

It's difficult for me to see how you read my post as suggesting that the awesome women I know (or women in general) are emotionally fragile. I really tried to go out of my way to avoid giving that impression; that's why I called them "unflappable", among many other things.

has me in stitches. The whole time reading this, I am reminded of this kid I know who is a digital design major who treats every woman he meets like some sort of goddess or some shit. I have trouble visualizing this guy here without seeing him on all fours, kissing the womens' feet with every other word.

Interestingly enough, this very issue is mentioned in Getting To Yes - a damn good book about negotiation if you have not read it - where the author mentions the problem in South Africa where the government officials appointed a committee (all white members at the time because blacks were not allowed in government) to amend the laws of the country to give the black population more rights. And in the process, they angered the very people they were trying to benefit because it just looks terrible when you try to tell someone "you are not being treated fairly! Here, let me speak on your behalf to the offenders and make sure that they treat you better from now on.

You are just making the people look like they are incapable of taking care of themselves and that they need you to be taken seriously.

[–]trpArtVandelay[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That dude's posts made me sad. Clearly he meant well, but he's so plugged in that it seems almost hopeless.

[–]lixaxil1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

RP stuff aside. That program is pretty damn useful.

[–]FakUYoloSweg69Pls-2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does this mean I can't name my school projects niggershit.docx

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