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[–]emptyform67 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link
Using the differences between masculinity and femininity to become the best version of yourself and get what you want in a feminized society.
[–]pounds_not_dollars 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you that was brilliant. I have been on this subreddit for about a month and I've realized I don't really understand the general ideology in the words put in the sidebar.
[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was going to write a sentence responsive to this post, saw this comment, and didn't have to bother. People might debate silly nuances and word things this way or that, but the core idea is right there above.
[–]Modified_Hackware 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yeah that pretty much nails it. TRP is much bigger than just trying to fuck women. It applies throughout all life and centers on you the individual.
Since I believe TRP centers on the individual I will submit my own definition as I see it.
[–]kroww 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
if you read the sideline: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
Sexual strategy. TRP is not bigger than just trying to fuck women, that's what it is. You can better yourself all you want and you still won't be able to fuck women if you don't listen.
[–]Modified_Hackware 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think it is a self-evident truth that TRP is actually not all about sexual strategy.
I can think outside the confines of what a sidebar tells me to think.
Following dogmatic process is what I would perceive as the antithesis of TRP - rationale and logic is applied to the world as it is. Not the world we are told it is.
[–]kroww 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You can think outside it all you want, that's what you're supposed to do, but TRP is in itself just a way of unplugging yourself from the fantasy that you are taught in terms of love. Making it a more broader subject makes people not worry about not getting laid, even if they are bettering themselves, which then defeats the purpose. Its basically the feel-good bullshit type of problem.
[–]Modified_Hackware 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm not sure if English is your first language (not that there is anything overtly wrong with it if it is) - I just find your choice of words interesting.
makes people not worry about not getting laid, even if they are bettering themselves, which then defeats the purpose.
My understanding on this particular take is that TRP philosophy is to entirely stop worrying about getting laid.
As I read it's about self improvement that brings about a largely important secondary effect that women are naturally attracted to you.
I think that if what you assert is true, then the clear distinction made between the seduction and pua subs compared to here wouldn't be as strong as they are.
So, to promote the discussion (Upvotes to you)- what do you think separates TRP from Seddit?
Edit: My formatting is shit.
[–]kroww 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea, you are right about the not worrying about getting laid, but you still have to keep it in mind. For example, I was very into "self improvement" type of stuff, I had many talents and whatever over other people, and guess what, they were getting laid and not me. Red pill isn't like seddit particularity because of the feel good bs thing, we (hopefully) try to look at the world as what it is, so instead of making up stuff to pick up women, or motivating other people, we just tell you how women actually work. Then you do what is necessary, if we are just about self improvement we would be called self improvement pill or something. I mean sure you can attract some girls with just self improvement, but to get the 9/10's you need game and understanding of women as well. That's were we cannot let people just sink into "self improvement feel good bs" cause then they will never get what they deserve.
[–]AbsoluteAltitude -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Touche sir
[–]mrpoopistan 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Own your fucking life.
[–]Atleticomadrid 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Becoming the best man you can be though self autualization based on the fact that women and men are different.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seek internal rather than external validation through self-improvement and use the resulting confidence to maintain a strong frame.
It's more complicated than that, but understanding this is essential to developing a RP mindset.
[–]throwaway1643 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why men and women act the way they do in the dating game, understood in the framework of biological and evolutionary ideas.
[–]phasetwenty 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What men and women really want from each other is not what you've been told.
[–]Senior Contributorwhiskey_bearfist 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
oversimplifying trp leads to moderate and vague misrepresentations. its a disservice to someone truly interested, and laziness from those who don't want to make an effort.
however, there are key tenets you can look at.
[–]UnpluggedMaestro 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Alpha fux beta bux.
[–]drrrrrr 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The red pill is the conscious choice to reject the collective fantasy around you in favor of a search for objective reality.
If I got one more sentence, I would say that TRP is taking this search all the way down the rabbit hole and being willing to go very deep into the inner-workings of traditionally shunned topics, such as sex, religion, power, gender, law, etc.
[–]Memento_Mori_Comitis -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In all dimensions of life: To thine own self be true.
[–]RedSunBlue -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
OR
Read the sidebar.
[–]pounds_not_dollars 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I read the side bar I don't understand it in the way it is written. A lot of the content doesn't point towards what the sidebar represents too.
[–]zezozio 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of the content doesn't point towards what the sidebar represents too.
That's mostly because TRP has been going to shit and feel-good stuff lately, because it IS a bitter pill to swallow and the theory gets newbies so troubled by what it says they don't know how to lurk properly.
That said, I still think TRP is more than getting laid, even if it's a desirable side effect.
I'd say : Here is Reality. If you want to feel like a Man, draw the consequences and act accordingly.
[–]Modified_Hackware -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Using the tools I have to make the best me.
[–]1FloranHunter -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I kind of like this. A little misleading but I think it contrasts well with the BP perspective:
Be yourself: here's how.
[–]diamened -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Be a man.
[–]HappyJerk -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women are attracted to dominant, high value men who draw strict boundaries for behavior
[–]ilike2partyhowaboutu -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Take the pill, wake up and improve.
[–]1Zackcid -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Self-actualization, control in life, and happiness.
[–]blackd0ts -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Self-actualization of true male nature.
[–]etherael -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Human mating is a marketplace, accept it and act accordingly.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Your testosterone is your friend and should be utilized like the amazing tool it is, it shouldn't be demonized or repressed.
[–]Senior Contributorwhiskey_bearfist 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
true, but not really descriptive of redpill at large.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're probably right, but I think it could mean different things to different people. I sort of picked up on a lot of redpill truths before even discovering redpill, but the thing that /r/redpill solidified in my mind was that women (the kind of women you want) DO like typically masculine men, with masculine body types.
The thing that allows men to be MEN (and fully embrace masculinity) is testosterone.
For example, the more I work out, the more testosterone my body uses and produces. The more testosterone I produce, the more attractive and "alpha" I can become.
For me, my testosterone is the key to all of it. It's the thing that makes men MEN.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Self Actualization and finding things you can reach mastery in, and also setting boundaries with men and women with the side effect of all this resulting in getting women.
[–]Raav -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I live for myself.
[–]zezozio 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
About 2000 years ago, a guy (Hillel the Elder) wrote:
If I am not for myself, who will be? And when I am for myself, what am 'I'? And if not now, when?
If I am not for myself, who will be?
And when I am for myself, what am 'I'?
And if not now, when?
You may have heard of him : he also invented the golden rule.
[–]niceguy_gone_cad -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
See things the way they really are.
[–]Elchinodetuvida -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Like Walter White said "Never give up control. Live life on your own terms"
[–]RejectionEquality-2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Women have no value beyond their pussies.
[–]1Zackcid -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lifting weights ALL DAY!!!
:D
[–]heist_of_saint_graft -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Whatever she thinks doesn't matter."
[–]MahlerNinth -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Own and control your own fitness, assets, sexual behavior and strategies, and everything else in your life, and don't let those decisions be guided by popular prejudices or social norms.
[–]FortunateBum -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ascertain the true nature of women and use that to your personal advantage.
[–]Kyrzar -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm going to look like an ass, but at least I'm right!
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