I’m going to write this up because with the new influx of people I think it’s worth seeing a textbook “by the points” example of RP in action. Notes are in bold.
Me: 40+, Tall, Bulky (I lift), have a pooch on my belly. I wear cargo pants (usually stained), printed Ts (usually gaming/guns/snark as the print), and boots. My presentation is 75% rugged/25% rakish. I am 90% MGTOW, I give zero fucks, and when I go to the bar I’m there to drink beer, watch Hockey, and have good conversation. I live in a college town. Background on who I am is to get you to understand my strengths and my weaknesses. My strength is rock solid frame and that I give zero fucks. My weakness is that I give zero fucks. I’m sure that if I changed my presentation towards refined and started visiting main campus bars other than dive bars I’d pull them in left and right… but I don’t care.
Setting: Dive bar off college strip. It’s actually a great place. There are a number of groups which regularly hang out there on the night I visit, and the frats/sororities don’t know about the place. I know the groups and get along with them. I hang out with two groups on a very regular basis even though technically I am a member of neither of them. They don’t cross much due to timing (one group is early, one group is later). Personally, I’m on a 4 month dry spell due to not trying; I hadn’t found any girl I cared to pursue.
Players: Everyone is in the late group. Girl is “Sarah”; guy who brought her to the group is “Steve”; another guy who got involved is “Chuck”.
Night 1: Group is outside chatting/smoking while I’m inside watching hockey. I go outside during intermission and see Sarah who is new to the group. That voice in my head tells me “Her” and I decide to listen to it. So what is goal #1? Make sure she notices me and build a beginning level of attraction. As I sit down at the table Steve introduces me “Hey Sarah, this is Demonspawn, he’s a nice guy.” I reply “Don’t insult me like that.” Steve laughs, another guy at the table shouts out “He’s an asshole.” To which I reply “Damn straight.” Demonstrate social dominance at the start. I nod to Sarah and then turn to talk to a guy about the game. Smoke is finished, I return to the game. The priority is me and my wants. I do what I want to do.
Second intermission is another smokebreak. People have moved around a bit and she’s sitting towards the walking aisle, but the table is full. I set down my beer between her and someone. She asks me if I want a chair. I reply that I’m just out here for the intermission. She asks what game I’m watching. It ends up she’s a Hockey fan as well which I then use to build rapport. We talk about team standings, trends, etc. until my smoke is done, and then I head back inside. Find anything to connect. It doesn’t matter how big or small it is.
Game over, my team won. I head back outside smiling to find out that the temperature has dropped significantly. I pull a chair to the table at an open spot which happens to be next to Sarah, set down my beer in front of the chair, and head to my truck to grab my emergency coat. It’s older than me, it’s ugly, it’s got blood stains left and right on it, and none of that really matters. A man is ready for whatever happens. This is not typical RP stuff, but I’ve gotten many compliments from women on that aspect of me. Sarah comments on blood on coat. I reply that I had a really bad period. She laughs. Mystery is good. Obvious bullshit answer leaves mystery open. Also, humor always helps. I’m talking to everyone at the table. Chuck showed up sometime during the third period and is talking to only her. Do not make her the focus. Include everyone, especially other women. About five minutes pass and someone has loaned her a pair of gloves (I later figure out it is Steve). As she’s putting them on, I say “Ooh, those look warm” and hold out my hand to her. She holds my hand in her gloved hands and I smoke with the free hand while continuing to engage everyone in conversation. Early minor kino. Dominance via expecting compliance. At this point I decide to intentionally talk to her less. At some point I pull my hand out to light my next smoke and then give my hand back to her. Half way thru that smoke she asks me, “Aren’t you warm yet?” I reply, “Are your hands tired?” I swear she makes a meep sound and doesn’t protest. Continued dominance frame.
Eventually most people leave (30-ish minutes) and it’s Chuck, Sarah, and me left at the table. When I notice it’s the three of us, I decide I’m leaving after I finish my smoke. I announce I’m paying my bill and head in. Sarah and Chuck chat for a bit and Sarah leaves while Chuck heads inside. Chuck blathers to me about my tactic not working as well as it should have, which basically let me knows that he got her number. Zero fucks because I’m playing long game. If I was planning on taking her home that night I would have played differently.
Night 2, a week later: It’s colder so the group is inside. I wore my regular coat to the bar (black leather, worn, a lot nicer than emergency coat). Steve shows up rather early and hangs with me and early group. He talks about Sarah to me mentions she said I was “being a guy” by having her hold my hand, but he said he replied that I’m actually a real stand up type of guy. He then mentions that he’s been on a few dates with her. I wish him luck (honestly) because this guy is one who is always a friend to some girl. I then mention to him that if he wants her to tell her rather than allow himself to get frendzoned. I will mention now that I don’t consider Steve in my inner circle, but I do consider him a friend. As such I change my end point target because, well… he’s right: I am a stand up guy with a particular moral code. On the other hand: he asserted my dominance in the social circle by standing up for me.
I’m gonna be light on details because I did drink more than usual this night and memory is slightly fuzzy. On the other side, not remembering if I’ve told her things confirms that she is not the center of my universe ;) Just don’t get shitfaced and do stupid shit.
First important point: I’m watching fucking Hockey! Much of the conversation was done with me looking at the screen while talking. I put myself first.
An interesting conversation I remember of that night was that somehow we got onto the topic of pressure points/pain compliance. Sarah makes mention that she’d like to know, so I demonstrate a few different points (shoulders/lower neck) on her with light pressure. Kino is kino. On the other hand, they don’t work on her. Someone makes mention so I demonstrate again on him, he obviously feels it. Don’t make her the center. The pressure points not working on her ends up to be to my advantage as now I get to try more on her. Nothing works, so I ask her to trust me. I’ve been presented as a stand up guy, play to that strength. I end up trying upper solar plexus and sternum (read: just outside and just inside her boobs) on her and again to no effect. Oh well. Advanced Kino is better than kino.
Also during this night I did most of my judgment play. For example, for some reason we started guessing Sara’s age. I guessed 24. She asked, “Why 24?” “Because 24 is the oldest I’ll date.” Another instance was making a semi-obscure reference to a band and acting disappointed in her when she didn’t get the reference (everyone else at the table got it). I am evaluating her for fitness rather than her evaluating me. I am the prize, not her.
At some point in this night a particularly feminist member of the late group shows up (non-regular) and we have our usual debates… while I’m still watching hockey. I am unemotional during the back and forth, making several points, obviously watching the game even through the conversation (when strong scoring chance happens I tense up and stop talking for a split second). Demonstrate confidence (lack of emotion during a politically controversial conversation). Demonstrate mastery (ability to have a deep convo while obviously doing something else).
Later in the night I ask Sarah to go out for a smoke with me. She doesn’t smoke. One part changing location, one part easy compliance. I smoke standing while she’s sitting and we’re chating about whatever. She mentions that I’m tall. I point a finger to have her stand up, which she does. More compliance I make some mention of that she’s still shorter than me so everything is good. As I’m finishing my smoke she asks herself out loud, “Why do I do what he tells me to do?” She realizes she’s asked this out loud and looks at me. I don’t reply. I finish my smoke, head back in, open the door for her, and guide her through the door with a hand at the small of her back. Do not underestimate the strength of this subtle power play. I am leading her and reinforcing the idea that she does what I tell/want her to do.
Chuck and I are the late late people as usual, Sarah has already left. I mention to him that I “feel sorry for Steve because Sarah is mine.” I didn’t find out till later, but this quote made it back to her. She asked me if I really said it. I said I did. She replied that saying such a thing was conceited, but a massive turn on because of how confident it was. Be unapologetic about being yourself. Have confidence. If you’re a beginner: fake it till you make it.
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