There are problems in the link between self-improvement and physical training in today's media.

MarbleWheels · 2024-05-07T21:40:22+00:00

Physical fitness is not enough for success but it's so extremely helpful that it's almost a prerequisite.

LateralThinker13 · 2024-05-08T01:50:36+00:00

Being fit doesn't guarantee success. But being a fat unfit slug virtually guarantees failure.

Crespius66 · 2024-05-07T23:32:29+00:00

I think what is meant is that the determination,discipline and will force required to obtain physical wellness (as in a great body) is hopefully going to splash other areas of life like saving those extra bucks,working that second job, risking it on that investment,etc. I agree,not everyone manages to get results,I know a guy or two who just go to work,get paid and hopes the chicks and fame and friends and great body will come by itself. One of them is a particularly successful professional, can't hit the gym after work, or do much else really.

hetero_gym_invite · 2024-05-08T01:28:13+00:00

I can't think of a more universally applicable symbol of self improvement and discipline. With getting money or girls you can get lucky and be successful without any effort. You can also put in a lot of effort and not see results. But with fitness it doesn't depend on anyone else and it's easily represented visually and analogies are apt for many situations in life.

Code-Icarus · 2024-05-07T21:27:30+00:00

I see your point but disagree a bit. The science backs up that idea that fitness is attributed to higher success. At the most basic level, being fit helps with releasing dopamine and having more available dopamine receptors. That means a fit person is more likely to succeed because they are just a happier person in general. I would even argue that it makes doing other hard stuff easier because you’re just generally happier.

Tieing back to this community, your average male on here is not fit, which is why it’s a usually a good starting point for men to focus on if they are trying to improve their life, including getting women. Reading, eating healthy, dressing better, improving your skills, and overall grind are of course important, but fitness should always prioritized.

funfacts_82 · 2024-05-08T07:41:57+00:00

The key is to not excell in one thing but rather be decent in many things. There is a reason why money, game, looks yields greater results when achieved in balance instead of excelling in only one of those.

Boosted_Arrow · 2024-05-08T10:45:04+00:00

"Just lift bro"

saltyboi-69 · 2024-05-08T08:26:11+00:00

Glad you pointed this out. What books do you recommend for better emotional wellbeing?

letsgetwizzyy · 2024-05-09T16:01:45+00:00

Looks, money, status, game, masculinity, and inner strength are aspects of life than men need to develop in order to become higher quality.

Physical fitness is one aspect of self development that men can enhance in order to make themselves for valuable and higher quality. While it is technically low hanging fruit -- and arguably one of the easiest aspect of one's life to improve -- self help gurus or life coaches tell men to start lifting weights because it is something in their direct control and because the traits required to develop a nice physique translate over into other aspects of men's life.

Getting jacked requires dieting which requires consistency and preventing garbage from eating your body. Additionally, it requires and teaches discipline because results are only achieved after literally doing the same thing for years at a time until you finally achieve your goals.

This translates to learning game (getting rejected repeatedly until you learn female nature better and figure out your style of approach), making better financial decisions because you (in theory) should be more inclined to save money as you were able to stick to a difficult diet for a considerable amount of time to achieve money, etc.

Status is developed as a consequence of developing expertise in areas and how you articulate yourself and your ideas to others. It is also a reflection of how you feel about yourself intrinsically, and having a nice physique has the potential to make you more confident in your interactions with others.

In essence, physical fitness and looks are ironically one aspects of one's life that men can most easily control despite what blackpill doomers convey. So, I disagree with your assessment, but totally understand what you mean.

In order to become an actual man of value you must become well rounded, and not just focus on fitness like many dudes do.

Vermillion-Rx · 2024-05-07T21:48:28+00:00

Great post but is there any more anecdote you can add to make this longer? Post is rather short, has sufficient quality as is but would have better quality with more anecdote or more points added to emphasize your points

Good starter post for your profile either way

PutridFlatulence · 2024-05-13T20:28:23+00:00

Here's a good video that just came out a few hours ago about the differences between perspectives of men and women. In the west, being a woman is almost like being low grade famous.

We men caused women to behave the way they do by giving them what is essentially unearned attention.

To stand out as a man, you need to be competent at one or more things that make you noticed. Of course, just because you can get women doesn't mean you will keep them. We all here understand female nature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEN6nz1DNg4

As has been mentioned in the comments here already, if you get extremely good at one thing to the point where you get noticed, you get a level of "fame" it totally changes your perspective, as it has done for this content creator as he passes half a million subscribers. Now imagine getting that attention for simply being born, and you have modern women.

Title	There are problems in the link between self-improvement and physical training in today's media.
Author	hayffel
Upvotes	96
Comments	27
Date	May 7, 2024 8:19 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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