What are the main differences between TRP and r/seduction and r/mensrights?

Theophagist · 2013-12-01T03:42:07+00:00

You people have it all wrong, /r/mensrights has nothing to do with women. It has to do with the marginalization of men and boys in today's society. To compare it to that mutated marxist throwback we call feminism is absurd to say the very least.

There are people who want to make red-pill ideologies literally rape in the eyes of the law. Maybe you should be more interested in men's rights.

cabsarehere · 2013-11-30T18:07:18+00:00

r/seduction is full of pussy ass guys who just want the magic words to picking up girls without actually putting in any work or improving themselves

r/mensrights just complains about stupid double standards and the like. They are the feminists of men.

dont-YOLO-ragequit · 2013-11-30T20:07:35+00:00

OP, you now have to deliver by x-posting to all 3 subs and then x-post the top 3 comments to each subs. Or your answers will be biased.

Coz7 · 2013-11-30T19:21:12+00:00

It seems there's a lot of bias..

/r/seduction focuses on techniques
/r/mensrights focuses on defending on the wrong doing of women
/r/theredpill is about the mental aspect of dealing with women

There's a good and bad side to every one of those subs, even this one. Make an effort to be touched only by the good.

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GayLubeOil · 2013-11-30T21:26:09+00:00

/r/Men's Rights: Thinks that feminists actually want quality. They advocate measures that would promote equality in the workforce, marriage and intimate relations. The problem is that the only people who care are other people on men's rights.

/r/Seduction: focuses on approaching and seducing women. However absent from the discussion is the fact that the easiest way to attract women is to make yourself attractive to women.

/r/TheRedPill: Seeks to be an impartial assessment of female character however its tainted by the fact that much of its content is written post breakup/divorce. What makes RedPill such a vile place to women and betas is that redpill isn't realy concerned with political correctness and taboos mainly because speaking negatively of women is taboo in and of itself. Redpill is also harsh on men who fail to improve themselves.

/r/ Bluepill: Is a bunch of Feminists and Beta male trying to parody the content of theredpill. The problem is that its very difficult to write good satire if you are offended or are emotionally vulnerable state. Blue pill likes to alternate between angry, offended and pointing out typographical errors.

IllimitableMan · 2013-11-30T19:53:42+00:00

/r/seduction is for "game" /r/mensrights is a political movement and trp incorporates and acknowledges both of these things but is wider encompassing.

Trp predominantly is a value system among other things. People keep asking this question expecting an easily digestible single sentence definition but reclaiming a sense of masculinity among an increasingly effeminate stock of men cannot be so easily defined.

Trp is really about social games and intelligence, that's the applicative vocational side of it, people always say it in the context of women but demonstrating high value, vagueness and using push and pull works on anyone, trp looks at social dynamics and equips men with mental tools which are scarce in the wild but paramount to individual business and personal success.

The ugly side of trp is that it reminds you that you have it harder in life by nature of being male people won't just provide for you, however you gotta suck it up cuz its never changing.

Trp shatters feminist lies and propaganda which are counterproductive or otherwise simply bullshit.

Back on value, a huge core fundamental element to trp is that you must always value yourself more than the girl because if you don't she won't either. Idiomatically prescribed as "don't put the pussy on a pedestal. "

I'm on my phone travelling so apologies for typos I'll clear it up later.

Tastysalad101 · 2013-11-30T21:55:51+00:00

mensrights isn't anything at all like trp and seduction.

pcadrian · 2013-11-30T23:11:47+00:00

TRP is the real deal, that deals with inner game, which is what matters at the end of the day.

wrez · 2013-12-01T01:12:59+00:00

I'm a pretty regular poster on MensRights , mainly an irregular lurker on Seduction and a regular reader here on TRP.

I think in many ways that TRP has replaced Seduction as the go-to place for effective technique, what works and doesn't, and taking a realistic look at yourself (self improvement). Seduction seems overly female friendly these days and internally censored, being heavier on separating desperate guys from their cash kinda gimmicks.

What I like about TRP is the focus on theory on male/female social dynamics, differences in strategy, and the focus on improving our value inwardly and outwardly. I view TRP as the place that states and talks most openly about the things we have always known about our society, but in certain ways, were not consciously made aware, or due to groupthink, are not always able to talk about publicly.

MensRights is concerned with a few different topics such as anti-male laws, legal bias, anti-male discrimination, paternity rights, biased sentencing, etc. MensRights for the most part is extremely egalitarian and libertarian leaning. I believe MensRights is on the cusp of emergent thinking in society for the sake of sexual egalitarianism under the law & in regards to custody/paternity.

Although some would these two subs have contrary goals I don't believe that to be accurate due to a differing focus. There are some in MensRights that think RedPillers are misogynistic, but that may be due to their lack of awareness and understanding of the true roles we play.

All three of the above subs are frequent targets by SRS and their ilk's downvote brigades.

[deleted] · 2013-12-01T05:10:00+00:00

For me the largest distinguishing factor is that TRP doesn't pussy-foot around the subject in order to pander to the sensitivities of modern culture.

Some of the shit people say here really does come across as down-right sexist, but the bulk of it is true. It's too counter-culture to be critically examined by the mainstream, so you get slightly more watered down versions that are more easily consumed by the public.

Opioidus · 2013-12-01T05:43:42+00:00

I will never go back to r/mensrights after I received something like 90 downvotes for suggesting Feminism might have been wrong from the start, and it's evolution into what it is today has been the rational progress of what it was in the beginning not a perversion. They are beta, pussified men begging to get what they were promised by wiminz, ''if you respect and love and support us we will give you respect and love and support in return''.

But of course wiminz never deliver, and this is an unfair, unjust, unequal world were the sexes are in an endless war against each other, nobody will give a shit that if you act unmanly and cry wiminz will see you as an invisible faggot, and going online bitching about how sexually biased and judgmental wiminz really are isn't going to change your sexless, vegetable state in real life.

Of course almost everything they say about men's issues are true, but they have no idea how to change it, and their refusal to accept that the root of those legal and social problems and discrimination lies somewhere other than the courthouse, is just pathetic.

Pornography_saves_li · 2013-11-30T19:34:19+00:00

Because all three subs fall for the same bullshit 'divide and conquer' techniques, and all three are so convinced they are right, they refuse to even entertain the thought of communicating openly.

It's the same shit FemoMarxism has employed against men for a hundred years, and we still continue to fall for it. Posts like this are a troll post, hoping to get everyone smacking down the other two groups, so they can then be asked how they feel about how theredpill feels about them.

Jesus guys, can we stop falling for this shit?

SystemHalifax · 2013-11-30T20:52:11+00:00

TRP tells you that you need to improve as a person- and you achieve that by focusing on yourself. This is part of sexual strategy because as you become more confident at what you can do, you will be confident in your daily interactions with men and women.

M8_I_wil_fuk_u_up · 2013-12-01T05:27:05+00:00

Seduction is just purely seduction techniques, I'm not going to insult it because it shares a lot of material with TRP.

Mens Rights shares a lot of the same beliefs as TRP, yet they have this odd social prenuptial agreement that they still have to respect women no matter what. Like even if something about women is true, they must keep to the absolute facts.

TRP is just raw truth regardless whether it's completely insulting or not. Probably why TRP gets such a bad wrap from non-subscribers, it doesn't really sugar coat anything.

throwawaysimples · 2013-12-01T05:51:54+00:00

Although I can't link to it, I asked the same question in /r/mensrights and had (obviously) differing answers

[deleted] · 2013-12-01T08:01:28+00:00

God Tier: TRP, which - while ostensibly focused on interaction between the sexes - is really a wider ideology with a focus on radically embracing the truth, no matter what it is. Whether that is the fact women can behave badly or looking in the mirror and admitting you are out of shape, TRP encourages acceptance of the truth in all its forms, and further encourages making positive changes to correct what you don't like in your life.

Hard to Take Seriously Tier: Seddit, which I've never had respect for outside of having the balls to approach women. Campy one-liners, silly fashion advice, ridiculous terminology and acronyms. Singularly focused on picking up women with no appreciation for wider societal implications or self-improvement. Can only talk about Game and reads like redditor bedtime fantasies. Super edgy.

Abject Shit Tier: MensRights. Just a sad, sad place in general. Frustrated men who think internet women want to debate them over the merits of feminism. Not interested in self-improvement so much as bemoaning how mean women are. Full of soft men who love to talk about their feelings and agree with women who overtly despise them half the time. A true blue reddit beta festival.

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Not Really Sure What to Think Tier: TPB. Sure, it's full of irrational hatred for this sub and is no doubt swamped with limp-wristed SJW LGBTBBBQ gendercurioutransqueer polymorphic zoofriends, but - full disclosure - can occasionally deliver a knockout piece of satire that cracks me up. Also good at occasionally pointing out inconsistencies in TRP dogma such that they can be vetted and explained, or fixed altogether (goes back to the pursuit of objective truth). One should never hate one's enemies, especially when they're so forthright and obvious. And adorable.

Laughing_Jelly_Bean · 2013-11-30T19:19:25+00:00

All 3 want to distance themselves from the other two.

Title	What are the main differences between TRP and r/seduction and r/mensrights?
Author	throwawaysimples
Upvotes	33
Comments	40
Date	November 30, 2013 5:50 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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