What made you Red Pill?

rod_of_ram · 2015-05-08T08:59:33+00:00

What made ME redpill?, I got fed up with being that "nice guy" that everyone (including family) turned to if they needed their shit work done and then turn around and insult me (always indirectly). I got tired of being played by women, opening my heart and getting taken advantage of. Naturaly I'm 6'3 dark skin fellow built like a fucking spartan without putting effort into working out, very athletic, I mean this shit runs heavy on my dad side of the family. I'm very easy to talk to, great sense of humor, the nine yards socially, but I didn't have that "killer instinct" that allowed me to slay pussy or go after what I wanted like I should, Since swallowing theredpill, I've been doing alot of introspective thinking is to why I didn't have this killer instinct.......

This isn't a woe is me type post, so suck my ass! I've realized that my mom(single mother of two) had alot to do with it. Being a servant boy to her will, always being told to treat women with respect and basically putting hoes before myself, being that yes man that every girl dreams of. The end result? Lack of respect, being seen as a big pussy in the eyes of my peers, no self-respect, no confidence. My sister nor my cousins gave me the respect that I showed them.

When I realized my mom was an alpha widow, everything became so fucking clear. The brute that has been tamed within me has finally broken the chains and it is on a full rampage, in that moment of clarity I went into monk mode, putting REAL effort at the gym, cut my drinking and smoking, reading more, started saying NO more often, being assertive, getting back to the hobbies I loved, and since I started understanding frame and how it works......It's been a wrap, being stoic is so fucking natural to me I didn't even realize it. I went from being this lovely teddy bear black guy, to this cock slanging god that doesn't give a fuck about how others preceive me. It's so beautiful, it's like the world is my bitch that begs me to stick in any hole I want.

I love this sub.

mojo_juju · 2015-05-08T06:18:40+00:00

Growing up with a deceitful sister who was known in our family growing up as a liar. She started feuds with other female family members (cousins, aunts). I saw how she would betray people, while speaking about the importance of loyalty.

A manipulative, emotionally impulsive mother. Just 2 years ago, she asked me to move some boxes for her. I had forgotten, and when I saw her next she demanded i do it that instant. I told her I needed a 3 hour extension. She stormed off and sent me a text about how I am a bad son. I responded by telling her that she is immature and acting childish. The next day she apologized.

This last bit was after I found TRP and made the decision to call all women on all bullshit.

Grew up in a household of absentee father, in a female dominated immediate family and Extended family. Also in school as a boy I noticed that girls and women received special support and boys/men were excluded from certain things ("female only" activities/hours/clubs, etc) and didn't see the same for men. Began to realize that while feminism claimed an interest in equality, in practice, it was very much unfair and oppressive to boys and men.

I thank my college buddy/weed dealer for introducing me to this sub about 3 yrs ago. Thanks T!

[deleted] · 2015-05-08T16:42:10+00:00

Wow, what a perfect question to ask. If anything I'm the poster child of what it's like to be a BB. The other side of the coin is my journey is such a long one I could spend the entirety of my life crushing it every single second and I would still be behind the 8 ball due to just about 30 years of heavy, heavy Beta Conditioning.

What made me Red Pill? I don't want it, it's not sexy, its not exciting, it's not a rebirth. I simply NEED it, I'll die without it.

I need it like you need air, like Whitney Houston needs crack.

I was a product of a single mother in a 3rd world communist country that put her own life in jeopardy to swing from branch to branch at the expense of everyone around her. After 5-7 abortions, the only reason I was even born was because she ended up going to jail, pregnant with me, which she turned the others into toilet babies without the blink of an eye. I have always been unwanted, even before I was born

I am the product of a generational, fanatical religious household: Old Testament Christian:Pentecostal from a third world country, and I came to the United States when I was 5. My Grandfather was a minister his entire life.

In my country at the time, being a bastard child was the equivalent of non existence. My mother convinced one of her older providers I was his son, some 45 year old guy, his name is on my birth certificate, I was baptized catholic, ironically. He was Italian, he was the provider, among others.

After coming to the U.S. The King of single mothers went to work to stack the card up against me from the beginning, every guy she dated was bad, and the asshole, and she cried and she was sad. I was the emotional punching bag, I got to learn first hand what a "good guy" is and what a "bad guy is" I learned from a very young age the blue print for never making a girl cry, how to make her happy and I made it a point not to be like my father who i never met, or portray any of the qualities ANY male had that upset my mother, because they were all bad and she was just this unfortunate soul that happened to attract dipshit after dipshit after dipshit simply because she was a prize that people abused.

Year went by, a product in the making. One foot on the gas and one foot on the break. Middle school passed me by, i was nice to every girl imaginable, I surgically mimicked everything I was taught, and I surgically avoided anything to do with girl out of fear I would hurt them. Sex became taboo.. I saw men kissing my mother:tears, i knew she was having sex: tears. I knew they argued=bad. Every male interaction with women was reinforced to me as one day I will do this to others women, if i don't control myself. It has been a deep rooted fear I couldn't understand, probably for the majority of my life, addmitantly, I'm unraveling now.

So, I was afraid to ask girls out, I was afraid to kiss them, I was afraid to do anything with. This fear carried me girlfriendless, and experiencless, and through high school unfucked, through Junior College, unfucked. I didn't lose my virginity until I was 21. However, I was aware of sex a desperately wanted it and all the bits that come with it probably since the start of middle school.

As an adult it got worse. I started having sexual experiences, but i held deep emotional illusions, fears, and constructs that made me not enjoy them in the least bit, everything was vanilla and it still is to a degree. My first sexual penetration experience is the foundation of nightmares that i have to this day when i am with women for the first time, 9 years later.

The entirety of my sexual escapades for the past 9 years has been with 7 women: 3 relationships, 1 one night stand, 1 FWB, 2 girls i was dating. However, the 9 years have more than half sexless, even if you combine all 7 women because i have been single for more than my sexual experiences, fucked up right?

You would cringe at the stories I have had with interactions with women as far as relationships go, the stories of getting cheated on, the things i did because i didnt want to be that envisioned guy who hurt my mom.

Now as a full blown adult I look back on my life and sum up how well I did. Guess what, My mom was a fallen angel and not the good kind. When Lucifer fell, this bitch came down right after he did and probably started bossing him around. Hell was probably a cool place before she got there.

As I got older both sides of the coin came out. I heard about how she guilted money out of men. I couldn't remember her ever being single, i couldnt remember her ever holding a job down for more than a year, I heard stories from those men directly, like Ron, out of guilt, cutting her a check for $17,000 for NO REASON. i coundn't understand why we bounced around from new yor to california, to washingtong, to florida, back to california, I lived and breathe don withdrawl slips in school. Never stayed in a place longer than 6 months, I have no childhood friends, i was always isolated and alone.

The times she had jobs, I was literally left outside those said jobs..."Go play" I was left alone while she "worked" almost every other night being 7 8 9 years old alone and scared till 2 or 3 in the morning.

I was just a living breathing piece of furniture that she just had to make sure didn't die now. since she couldn't finish the job all those years ago.

I got heavily rewarded for shutting up. I have been self sufficient since i was little. doing laundry, doing my homework, getting myself to school, not being a bother, and tending to her emotions.

My reward was recognition. Good by, you're such a great kid.

So again, I look back at my life and ask myself, is this what you had planned for yourself? How awake were you? why do these things in your life keep happening?

I recently read the story of the three monk each dipping their fingers in the bat of vinegar and all three portray different facial expressions, with the last one smiling.

Ive experienced the first two already, most of my life. Life has not been good to me. However, i am at the point of the third gentleman with the smile. Yeah life is unfair, life is this way.

Time was wasted, but i am awake now. I am still Beta in a million way and I KNOW all my behaviors and my thought processes, but its another thing to rip things out of your genetic makeup and introduce wild, polar opposite theories, EVEN if they are the truth.... That.... to me is unplugging. The hard truths of reality doesnt just want to make me throw up and cry a bit like Neo did.... Im sick on a cellular level my friends.

So what do i do now? Well, for the first time in my life, I am genuinely happy. Past is past and I care not the least bit about it and my entire focus is to deconstruct myself, brick by brick and be my own man, do whatever the fuck my little blackened heart desires. You see guys, I need this, I'm fucked up and in a bad way. I don't need it for the women, i don't need it for the six pack. I need it because I fought to be here, unwanted or not im here and you're in my fucking way now. i have shit to do.

That's why.

Redpillthriller · 2015-05-08T04:25:59+00:00

I grew up in a rural area. Lots of old school hard working farmers, my grandad was an ex army hard ass farmer who taught me the value of hard work and friendship between men.

EnzoBlankz · 2015-05-08T09:19:32+00:00

my relationships in high school where epic fails makes me cringe just thinking about them. had an ex tell me I was too nice I cried when she broke up with me over the phone (she didn't even care lol) and my older brother walked in on me crying smh. I was super omega/beta when it came to girls but I also suffered from social anxiety and other things played a role. I also got cheated on by another ex, I was angry/confused so I did some research found this and everything clicked.

TL;DR being nice gets you nowhere

Di-onysos · 2015-05-08T06:19:01+00:00

I read the Gervais Principle and had my mind blown, it fit so well into my experiences and it vocalized my thoughts perfectly. Then later I followed a link somewhere to /r/alreadyred discussion on powertalk, where everyone was gushing over how great gervais principle was and I thought "damn, these guys have good taste". Read more of the sub and liked it. So funnily enough I was alreadyred before being redpill.

I've always considered myself more "clear-eyed" than most on what drives people to act the way they do and it was refreshing to find other people with same views.

koolaidman456 · 2015-05-08T06:23:48+00:00

I was a loser all my life (still am in many respects). Kissless virgin until I was 21 and popped my cherry with some rando I met at a bar while in college. I never had any success with women, always super nervous around them, that old song and dance. I started reading seduction/pickup material a few years back, some link brought me here, been lurking ever since. Still don't have much success with women, but I've improved by leaps and bounds in most other areas of my life. I've been lifting regularly for the last year, I'm back in school (after partying my way out of a full ride scholarship to a well respected public university), I have a decent job for someone with only a high school diploma, started saving for retirement, and I've really been focusing on reading both fiction and nonfiction books. So for a 24 year old, I feel like I'm doing alright.

thredditsowaway · 2015-05-08T12:09:08+00:00

Failure.

Even mediocre success would have encouraged me to be even more beta. Complete and total failure on the subject of gender identity and relationships is what turned me to TRP. I think I speak for a number of others when I say that... don't resent your failure.

scramtek · 2015-05-08T10:52:20+00:00

My mother. Dealing with the seemingly inherent narcissism that all women display was one indication. Trying to find solace from my mother sealed the deal. AWALT was imprinted upon me from a very young age.

49ered · 2015-05-08T07:27:07+00:00

I was never really the late bloomer, lost my virginity at around 15 years of age to this cute blonde and grew up as a member of the popular crowd in high school and eventually in college. At some point, I used to think girls were sympathetic and innocent but I learned they weren't. In high school I had classmates (to an extent friends) that were nerdy and never took up athletics, I played on the football and baseball team while some of my classmates were the guys that didn't care for athletics. Over the years I saw how these girls who were nice to me talked so much shit about these guys and how everyone treated them. I could walk to school without having to worry about being picked on while these guys were laughed at by girls, bullied, and never taken seriously.

Even though I never hated those guys, I didn't want anything to do with them and I kinda felt guilty for it. When college rolled around, the same game played out, girls would talk shit about anyone that wasn't an athlete, a frat boy, or some party animal. What I saw was that unless a guy was sexually appealing and had status, girls treated him like shit. The frat boy could make sexist jokes and get away with it while the nerdy engineering kid who did the same thing was called a sexist pig for it. I saw how shallow people were and how everyone treated low value males.

One day I read the "Red Pill Antibiotic Nuke" on the sidebar and I keep thinking back to my life, you could say that after college I had days when I had a lot of time on my hands. The entire post clicked for me, I saw how the scenario had played out in my life over and over again and I had answers. I knew why some of those kids in high school got bullied and why girls treated most guys on campus like shit. For some reason, it made me realize how lucky I was growing up but at the same time it eased my worries and gave me perspective. I didn't feel as guilty for being the guy who wouldn't fight bullies in high school, for some reason I felt alright with the fact that some of the guys who I played football or baseball with that were my teammates bullied kids that they perceived as weak. I wish it never happened but it did and I don't feel as guilty for being the guy that never white knighted some helpless dude that was being bullied.

Looks like the red pill made me learn why it sucks so bad to be a low value male in society.

UrsusG · 2015-05-08T12:22:09+00:00

Age, experience with women, observation, reading (especially Dawkins, The Selfish Gene) and piecing it all together. I was about 30 when I finally accepted how 'relationships' work.

Shitty thing is, I had suspected it all along through my twenties, but I was actively rejecting the ideas. At 30, I no longer could reject them and stay intellectually honest with myself.

When I found this reddit (and then Rollo, Heartiste, Misandry Bubble, etc) there wasn't really anything new just all the stuff I already knew put together, plus a few neat acronyms.

Forty_Deuce · 2015-05-08T20:09:29+00:00

Short answer. Bullshit. A lot of bullshit that I got tired of dealing with.

Stythe · 2015-05-09T03:21:41+00:00

For me it was giving up myself and focusing only on my LTR who continually used me and manipulated me for 9 months. After spending my credit, savings, losing my job, borrowing money and isolating myself from friends and family for her, she breaks up with me in rehab for her drug addiction and left me to clean up all the debt.

I had a mental breakdown and tried to get her back, eventually realizing that when I contacted her she was distant and timid but "sweet" and when I didn't she called me screaming about whatever excuse she had.

Eventually I sent her a no contact message stating I would let her know when I want to speak again. Despite her telling me not to contact her, she ignored my feelings, contacted me, got ignored, flipped out and left me numerous messages then said she's done with me for good. All this occured over a 7 month period and her ignoring my wishes was the point I finally realized how little I mattered to her.

During this time I'd also begun to notice similar feelings about other friends holding me back or using me, especially female friends and realized it was myself, all along, who hadn't been understanding my potential. Around this point I found TRP and it clicked with so much about what I'd been feeling and much of what I'd learned during my last 10 years. Most of it I understood and I'm currently in the process of changing my entire life to make it about me.

Cutting and distancing friends and, avoid pointless activities like partying, gaming, etc and focusing more on improving myself is immensely satisfying and now that I understand all this, there's no way to go back, even if I wanted to.

It's nice to finally understand how the world works. It really makes life so much better. I have confidence like never before and while many people have always seen me as a very capable person, I now see people looking to me as a leader in many regards. I intend to live up to that.

BlatantTRPThrowaway · 2015-05-08T09:14:48+00:00

The catalyst was that I wanted to avoid the old mistakes I made with my awful ex while pursuing my new relationship. But perhaps the biggest reason why I went from mere occasional-lurker to full-on fan was actually my phase when I mercilessly mocked TRP.

I had for the longest time in my life believed that you were just a bunch of meathead losers trying to overcompensate for small dicks and blind lady hate via the gym and breaking hearts. Sometimes the younger posters and anger phase sufferers prove these points, but overall, I was wrong to believe this.

Then the Elliot Rodger incident happened, and I saw modern-day feminism for what it truly was: women constantly devaluing the lives of men, and trying to find the easiest scapegoat to hamster away real problems. In other words, they wanted to say Red pill was to blame for the shootings.

I did my research, and it became clear that the only honest answer was this: Not only was Red Pill "not" to blame for any shooting; it teaches a philosophy that prevents mindless violence in exchange for self-improvement, growth, and stoicism. I became more and more curious, and the more I read, the more everything began to click.

adderallballs · 2015-05-08T11:28:16+00:00

It was very recently, when I realised it was impossible to improve myself to the point where my ex-LTR would deem me a "good man". I was sick of feeding that sort of narcissistic behavior and instead decided to take a step back and acknowledge that all women are simply children to be handled and coddled. I started reading redpill theory and understood the fundamentals of the female mindset and realised that I knew all along how women really were.

I decided to improve myself for myself, stopped looking over my shoulder to see if I was "good enough" or "nice enough" and instead decided to simply be myself. I have a long way to go to consider myself truly redpill but the journey is exhilarating nonetheless. I love this place.

Maaahoney · 2015-05-08T11:32:12+00:00

Around the age of 30 I realized I'd never fallen in love. The time I came close, I was obsessed and seeing this chick that lived with a coke dealer and had her rent paid by a 40 year old married man. My mom did not like her one bit. Anyways, after the 3rd person smacked some sense into me I said to myself, this isn't love it's lust (she had a banging italian body). And besides, not marriage material.
So then I said, I'm 30, no sign of marriage in sight, where did I go wrong? After a good few years of analysis and finding TRP and going through the stages, I came to terms with the fact that I allowed myself to fall for a narrative that I saw in the media. And that no one was going to help me get anywhere in life.

hrm0894 · 2015-05-08T12:12:21+00:00

Gf broke up with me 6 years ago and I was heart broken until I came across TRP just last year. Read the sidebar and everything started to make sense.

[deleted] · 2015-05-08T12:21:41+00:00

I dated a feminist. Before I met her I had stumbled into a CTish lifestyle. I was spinning 3 plates, killing it in school, well dressed, lots of friends, and fit. But I didn't know or think about this, I just did ignorant to my actions and that led me to dating the feminist. She seemed great when we met, smart, attractive, financially successful, rational. But after 2 years of dating a feminist I was a BB broken shell of the man I used to be. Obviously that was my own fault, I made the decision to date her and let myself go, but she played a big role in that. The thing I realized was her actions never were about equality, it was about gaining power, building subservience, and forcing me to pay for the discretions of my forefathers. I was always paying back a millennia of debt (in her eyes), not living in an equal relationship. Everything was framed in the context of sexism. The dishes need to be done, "you need to do then otherwise our relationship is sexist." Shit needs to be repaired around the house, "well I don't know how to fix it, can you do it?" And on and on and on it went. Well I woke up to the bullshit, dumped her, and was left to pick up the pieces of my life. I found the red pill a few months later and it's been amazing ever since. There is no faster way to swallow the pill than dating a feminist.

FocalBox · 2015-05-08T13:09:56+00:00

I don't think I have it necessarily "luckier" than any of you, but I never started off beta. I grew up quite spoiled, and had always had a strong sense of direction in life. This allows me to make decisions that have a certain framework and actions that have a purpose. That and I had a sister younger than me that I disciplined even until today.

But when I was younger, I was abusive, selfish, and very one track minded. I was the bully of the year in my primary school (I'd make fun of classmates), and unfortunately while girls were drawn to me, a lot of people talked behind my back and I wouldn't be invited to parties. I was suspended once in primary school but I was not mature enough to understand the lesson then.

Then in secondary school I was suspended for bullying. I also had a history of talking in class, not paying attention, getting into fights, stealing. After this suspension I realised nobody likes me -- my "friends" fear me, girls are turned on, sure, but I never knew to escalate and shit. people also talked behind my back. At the age of sixteen, this drove me to depression (I think it was clinical). I got fat, I stopped talking to people ... Holy fucking shit I can't even look people in the eye.

But this also forced me to focus on my studies -- I was close to being kicked out of school after all. And I'm thankful that this taught me to become an alpha, but one who's respectable. One who isn't an asshole. I got into med school and lost that weight last year, and upon learning PUA I have no trouble getting girls now. I have ways to go but I have never been in better shape, better control of my life, and more confident before. I'm the man that has his shit together at the young age of nineteen, and i have much to learn and discover from you brothers, and have much to develop as a person!

awakenedmale · 2015-05-08T14:17:54+00:00

My stbx wife's betrayal of our marriage vows.

Transmigratory · 2015-05-08T14:44:47+00:00

I was in the PUA scene around 2 years ago. Saw Roosh's stuff, didn't pay much attention to other aspects apart from the game parts. Then the Elliot Rodger stuff happened, which eventually led me to Aurini, which led me to TRP and manosphere, which led me to Return of Kings, which eventually led me to here.

Basically what made me TRP? I had a misanthropic view on things to begin with. Didn't fit in with other places which were riddled with SJW logic, but upon coming here, I resonated with the more honest look at things. Not the sugarcoating of SJWing everywhere else.

coffee_and_lumber · 2015-05-08T15:25:59+00:00

Not entirely sure what the ultimate trigger was to get me here, but looking back, I can see that even at my most miserable beta-ness, I've always had a good handful of alpha traits going on. Some of it was real, some maybe born out of delusion. Still got me laid I guess.

I think it was the pattern of having enough charm, looks and posture to effortlessly attract women into my space, but not enough substance to keep them at all happy about it. Women have told me I exude sexual energy, and indeed, I've always fucked them like a caveman. However every single other thing about me was weak, flimsy or plain fucked up. Too clingy, with Disney/romantic beliefs. Lots of orbiting. Lazy, not persistent or determined enough with my goals. It's been a strange dichotomy. I've always been a bit of that classic "sigma" (if that's even a real thing) and perhaps that crunchy shell/nougaty center is a hallmark of that. At any rate, that stuff creates a pattern of disgusted women and me not being very happy with my level of power and control over my life. So of course, that feeling, and the desire to change sent me seeking new wisdom.

Finding the concept of The Red Pill shed light on every single dark corner of my being and is helping me move very quickly toward hardening up my inside along with my outside. It has changed my life literally from Day 1. I confidently feel no longer like "a guy". Instead, I am a fucking man.

Washedupoaf · 2015-05-08T16:08:26+00:00

I'm here because I was in a long relationship (4.5 years) and the woman I thought I was gonna marry, who I was busting my ass to build a career and a future to share in decided she needed to "find herself" but didn't have the courage, respect, or maybe even desire to break it off with me. So I had to. Been sorting that shit out since. Hell some of me still wants to think she isn't blowing a bunch of dudes and she will come back to me. . . But A-motherfucking-WALT. I started the relationship as alpha (unaware obviously) and allowed myself to be beta-fied completely, and was wondering why she peaced. Fuck looking back I was a willful and enthusiastic beta bux provider, and in return for my love and support I got "it's not you it's me" after 4.5 years.

Long story even longer, I fucking love this sub because its like getting your ass dragged kicking and screaming out of the cave to see the world as it is. It is also excellent to be reinforced to be a better man, and to put myself first. The sidebar should be mandatory reading for every male turning 15, shit in a perfect world it would be.

pimmieboy66 · 2015-05-08T21:02:04+00:00

there was a girl in my class which was a good friend of mine. in the beginning of the schoolyear she was always asking when we could hang out, when i was ill called me everyday to make sure i was allright and when i arrived at school she stopped with whatever she was doing to come and give me a hug. gradually during the year, she became more distant. i was wondering why. i started to chase her, i was the one to ask her to hang out, and most of the time she told me she was busy.

then out of nowhere i found the trp reddit. everything clicked. in class, i was the one that was turned to her, she was sitting straight when in conversations. i was constantly complimenting her, literally building her pedestal while she stood on it. did it make me feel any better? hell no.

then one day i decided to try out some red pill wisdoms. i was stoïc in class. i jokingly made fun of her. i didn't give her any attention in class. none. meanwhile i got straight 10/10's on tests, even though i'm known as the laziest fucker who barely gets 6/10's normally. i didn't tell anyone how much better than them i was and acted as if it was perfectly normal.

after a week or so, when i was sitting next to her, she started playfully poking me and asking me what was up with me for the last week. i told her "i don't know". she told me she didn't like me being "moody" as she phrased it. but thanks to TRP, i knew what was up. don't listen to what girls/women say, look at what they do. so i didn't change my behavior and she was pretty much all over me. the old days started returning. when i was ill, the second day i got a call "if she could come over and care for me". most people would've said yes, but she had a boyfriend and i wasn't particularly needy for sex at the time so i said nah im busy.

she's now my plate, she's dumped her bf and i generally dont give a shit. TRP saved my schoolyear. thanks TRP.

oldredder · 2015-05-08T23:48:01+00:00

I had instant and near-total rejection of bullshit since age 5. It took all the way to age 20 to fully encompass how much bullshit is around me and its true sources, which is women's attitudes, government indoctrination in schools and feminism & a few similarly patterned culture/counter-culture nonsense waves. That was almost 20 years ago.

Comprehending the over-all pattern and the numerous sources of concentrated bullshit is what made me red pill.

Many years after that is when reddit itself came into existence and the subreddit here which is just a small part of the red pill. Nation-states, trade, war, economics, is the core of the red pill and the chain-reactions on a tribal & personal level, like feminism or divorce laws or expectations women have of men & voice about each other, are simply side-effects at the end of the chain.

DrMungMung · 2015-05-09T15:25:40+00:00

Started in highschool for me.. .I watched all my guy friends suddenly start doing stupid things for girls in hopes that they'd get a girlfriend.

I was working at the university bookstore at the time and hanging out with 19 -24 year old women taught me some very red pill lessons just talking with these women.... I learned they start banging as many dudes as they can until they find a guy that they actually say "Is husband material.. beacuse he's taking such and such courses to get such and such degree" then they'd make these guys wait for sex.. .even though the same women would be taking home randoms ( sometimes two at a time ) almost every night for years.

Chocotop · 2015-05-09T17:28:54+00:00

My moment that led to becoming red pill can be summed up in two words: twin flame. I fucking cringe so bad when I used to be spiritual.

Long story short, thought I found the girl who was my soul mate....SEVERE oneitis.

BeerCanThick · 2015-05-09T22:32:08+00:00

My parent's first marriage was a disaster where my mother mindfucked and financially killed my father.

That put me leaning towards it.

However, my brother's marriage made me red pill. I know it sounds creepy to say, but there was a point where I probably could have dated her but she wound up with my brother instead. Before she got marred to my brother, I was super jealous of him and probably would have sawed off a limb to trade places with him. However, his wife turned into a fat frumpy bitch (easily gained 40+ pounds when she was 100ish), has him working 50 to 60 hours a week, cut him off from me and the rest of his old friends, and is basically grinding him down the same way my mother ground down my father.

nipplymax · 2015-05-10T12:15:39+00:00

In second grade a small group of children in my city were put into a program for intelligent kids, and honestly they reared us all up to be alpha. This made it relatively easy to swallow the pill later on.

After a series of terrible relationships, due to my BPD, which causes emotional instability in romantic relationships. I got heavy into Buddhism and spent two years isolated and just working on me.

Shortly after I began noticing positive changes, I found out about the manosphere. I don't agree with 100% of everything that every redpill blogger posts (any more than I listen to a psuedointellectual hippies take on Buddhism), but many of the concepts helped me overcome my issues. Holding frame became an important and tangible thing.

BlackHeart89 · 2015-05-11T14:18:26+00:00

What turned me redpill?

Its been slipping in throughout the years since at least 9th grade. I knew women were the same as men as far as trustworthiness. What I didn't know is how deceitful they can be and how quick they were to change their feelings. Lead to some heartbreak at 14.

After that, I started being skeptical of every chick I dated. But still giving them benefit of the doubt until they did something to show that I shouldn't trust them.

After this, I was placed in the friendzone quite a bit. I took note of the trend after a while. I didn't think women disliked the nice guy. Rather I observed that they were MUCH MORE interested in those who were more outspoken, "cool", players, etc. The players/cool guys got better pussy than the jocs and thugs. So did the wannabe thugs who had money (parents). I also took note that the women I showed the least interest in, were more interested in me. There was one incident where one chick who I wanted to fuck, but refrained from fucking due to a friend reeeeally liking her, tried to damn near rape me.

After all this, I started dating the only chick I ever wanted to marry. Shit started to go sour once she started stressing out about money. Less sex, started hanging out less, stubbornness, her going out of town more, making reckless financial decisions, etc. That taught me how important money was to a relationship. It also taught me that women, no matter how awesome and reasonable they are, making stupid fucking decisions when upset. And I learned that once they get realize that you are their's, they will start slacking in all departments.

Sometime after me and her broke up, I begin testing all my theories with different women and her. Bingo. My findings were correct. I loss weight, started a workout routine, started picking up on my social skills, started going out more, and bam. She started following my lead and became happier and wanted to fuck more (still not a couple). She KNEW I was dating other people at this point. I could tell she didn't like it. So I minimized how much I told her. But she still KNEW what the deal was.

Other women fell in line. I put about half as much effort into them as a I did with past relationships. It always went well. This being single shit makes it hard for me to imagine being in a monogamous relationship ever again without getting aggravated or exhausted at the mere thought of it. And this is all without even perfecting my approach game!

I'm not the most alpha motherfucker out there. But I'm definitely RP.

wtf_hell · 2015-05-09T09:46:57+00:00

Watching someone I was very close to get cheated on by his newlywed wife with some beta WoW player. Then watching her claim "abuse" and trash his reputation. Then watching her string him along with possible reconciliation. Then watching her pry alimony out of him, only to tell him that she had been cheating on him the whole time (which would have nullified the alimony). Then, finally, after the divorce itself, watching her claim that she didn't get her alimony and was getting "notifications" that she could never produce, and then filing (successfully) for a restraining order when he demanded evidence.

All of this in a year and a half. I saw how she wrecked him, and then he recovered from being beta by her manipulation. That was enough for me. I saw the bullshit she put him through for money and how she used the court system to do it. Thank god they didn't have children.

Title	What made you Red Pill?
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	28
Comments	40
Date	May 8, 2015 3:58 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3597q4/what_made_you_red_pill/
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