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What the hell makes somebody like this? A study of the ultimate blue pill.

ThetaleofVenne

February 17, 2015
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Title What the hell makes somebody like this? A study of the ultimate blue pill.
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ThetaleofVenne

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Date February 17, 2015 7:12 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–]tombreck2 23 points24 points25 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever had a crush on a girl and you've slowly been working up the courage to ask her out so you start talking to her for 30 minutes until some douchebag comes over and steals her away? That's TRP

[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"That guy is an asshole and that girl is just a stupid bitch, there are other girls out there just right for me."

... and then every girl will eventually end up on his "stupid bitch" list.

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[–]moodymela 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

People like that always remind me of the fox and sour grapes fable.

Also I briefly read his post history and he admits that he is autistic. Nothing to see here people. Move along.

[–]get_real_quick4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Did we really need to create a thread to hate on someone who is far away from getting it? So what? Let others wallow in their blindness. That's it. Hating on a beta for being a beta makes you....if you can't fill in the blanks here, you need to read the sidebar.

[–]dicklord_airplane3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

listen, the guy has some kind of facial deformity and said that he had surgery on his jaw some time ago, and he thinks that he lies somewhere on the autism spectrum. I remember seeing this guy supplicating on askwomen a while back, and it stuck with me because it's so sad. girls kept using him for his kindness and ditching him for his ugliness and awkwardness, and he just kept giving it because that's what girls told him to do.

the bleak reality for people like him is too much to take. he has little to gain from accepting the reality of the game because his potential was stunted from the start, but he can still take solace in 'just world' ideologies.

let this be a humbling experience. thank your lucky stars that you were born more gifted and with more opportunities than others.

Edit: OP, could you put in an edit about the poor guy's physical deformity? it's very relevant to how he ended up thinking like he did. people have been repulsed by the sight of him his entire life, and that would destroy anyone's self esteem.

[–]laith_wavy7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

The need for validation causes this especially from mammas boy who needs to do things to make women happy with him so he Can feel happy with himself

[–]RedRisingHood11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

This is a good point.

I don't think we should dwell on this guy, putting down a loser does nothing to pull yourself up so it's pointless, but there is a real problem with guys who are addicted to validation, literally addicted to words.

[–]aggitator 0 points0 points0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

So what? It is a good example. A good example of someone who spends his life trying to worship women just gets fucked up more by listening to them. doesnt drive, is fat ajd pathetic, self improvement is not listening to redpill and trying to change.

[–]throwaway16431 point2 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Well, obviously that guy has a wrong perspective of how the world works, but it's still bad taste kicking a guy who's already down. It's just tragic really.

Best to ignore people like this and focus on improving oneself; maybe someday he'll find happiness and realize how social interactions really work

[–]ThetaleofVenne[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

maybe someday he'll find happiness and realize how social interactions really work

We've been following him forever since he started posting online. If he hasn't fucking gotten it yet he never will. He's been doing this for fucking forever. We've basically given up trying to understand how he fucks up this bad.

[–]aggitator0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Its not really bad taste, ppl have to learn if they piss on us they get what they deserve.

[–]RedRisingHood0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

a good example of what not to do...

What to do 101:

Make sure your sense of self-esteem is based on real concrete things, not a hot air of ego and certainly not on an upvote from a bunch of feminists on the internet

[–]aggitator 0 points0 points0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Ok, ego. I get wat ur saying, but do u reslly thimk this guy gets validated? It says he thinks he is worthless but he has been reading some feminist bullshit in an attempt to learn and the first thing he picks up only burns him more.

[–]RedRisingHood1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe he is happy if a feminist tells him he is a good person and that he will find someone who loves him.

Does not mean the feminist actually gives one single fuck in reality

[–]aggitator0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Ur right, that is basically what i ws saying.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Ego investment. My girl's brother is exactly the same. Mid-20's, virgin, extremely beta. But prides himself on how he's not like a "douchebag gym-bro". Extremely opinionated, full of hate, but not at all receptive to anything resembling actionable advice.

Some people need to hold onto ideas that they attribute as being core to their identity, so much so that it holds them back from ever making progress. It's a highly common phenomenon.

Killing your ego is step 1 of taking the Red Pill.

[–]1nzgs1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes you hit the nail on the head with how they attach their identity to a certain image. I've also come across these types of beta slobs who hate guys who workout; they convince themselves that they are more intelligent than people who lift weights and it becomes part of their identity, as though if they improved their physiques and became real men they would be betraying their identity.

A lot of fat-acceptance people behave the same way; their weight becomes their identity and even if deep down they are desperate to lose weight, they are crippled by fear of losing their identity and becoming the person they hated for so long.

Deep down it's just cowardice and insecurity.

[–]ThetaleofVenne[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Here's the weird thing...according to him (and we've followed this guy for years he's a constant source of entertainment) he lifts. We even remember the first posts he made on bodybuilding.com when we posted his picture there and that's what got him into lifting and he's been posting about it ever since.

But if you listen to him tell it it just makes him hate himself more. It's so fucking weird.

[–]trp_angry_dwarf-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've seen those people "lift". Super light weight, max of 8 reps, 3 sets with 5 minutes 'rest' in between and they usually like to see how far the weight in the machine flies up to the stop blocks at the top of the rails. Like one of those sledgehammer strength testers at carnivals/circus slideshows.

They also like to snigger at me and my gymbros who are "vainly staring at themselves in the mirrors". Of course, we're usually going low and slow with big stacks on bars and run the possibility of injury if our stance/technique is off.

But fuck them. I'm there for me, not them.

[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see this attitude as VERY prevalent in the non-lifting population.

My roommate (who also lifts, now) went on about how he used to be like that, and viewed lifters as less intelligent.

Lifting is hard, it requires dedication, and it hurts (at least at first). If you don't get adequate sleep it will exhaust you.

But it leads to an amazing physical transformation.

[–]aggitator 0 points0 points0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Hang on, do u mean killing ur ego or reshaping it? Good speach, but im confused

[–]sigmayogi2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The snake around Shiva's neck is a representation of his ego - of which he has full control.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Kill it, as in, don't fixate yourself over any single idea. Be willing to let go of ideas that were once sacred to you. A big part of unplugging is recognizing that you were wrong about how inter-gender relations actually work.

If you want results, your best bet is to re-align your beliefs with what's objectively true, not what you wish was true.

[–]TekkomanKingz-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mid-20's, virgin, extremely beta.

Well there Bob I'd say this Man is a little too old to be pulling these kinds of shenanigans.

[–]SeekingAlpha-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Killing your ego is step 1 of taking the Red Pill.

Leaving aside the view that Taking The Red Pill is not constrained to a fixed set of steps, at what step would you place Killing Your Super-Ego?

This is a question I have been pondering lately and am curious as to how others perceive the concept.

One aspect that makes this introspection difficult is that many of our Egos are firmly intertwined with our Super Egos (think: I may place a certain value on my-self because I aim to act in accordance with principles of universal ethics).

[–]RedRisingHood4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe he wants pity sex from a feminist

[–]trp_angry_dwarf0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

shudder

I wouldn't piss on that even if it was on fire.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

White knight covert contract. "Look girls, I am protecting you! I will commit to you! Now please please please can we have sex?"

[–]ThetaleofVenne[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's the weird thing. He seems to rip on the red pill all the fucking time but he can't get laid for shit.

But at the same time he doesn't seem to care. He seems more interested in making a friend, or just finding someone who doesn't hate his autistic ass, it takes almost everything he fucking does. Just look through his posts fucking everything is about how to make a friend. It's..how do you live this long and fail so hard at absolute basic interaction?

[–]trp_angry_dwarf0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Autistics have a higher propensity for asexuality.

And they're 'odd' so making friends is harder than (dammit, there's a word for this) brain-normals.

Does he actually WANT to get laid? I don't want to corrupt myself reading his posts...

[–]Chiveronreddit1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

His latest comment submission says he's autistic soooo...

[–]soccerplusaviation1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why are we wasting our bandwidth on this guy?

[–]1kick61 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's hamsteriziation: attempting to transmute your deficiencies into positive traits. It's trying to make a choice that made you into the option that you willingly chose.

Ergo "it's not that no one wants to fuck me, it's that I choose to be a virgin rather than 'resort to that nasty red pill stuff' thus making me better."

There's a blog that better describes this phenomenon. If i can find it, I'll link it.

[–]2chainzFLEX4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Dude who the fuck cares, he is le neckbeard who spends his life online. Its not worth any amount of time to think about this. Fat bitch cant even drive lmao. Its a lost cause.

[–]Corndog_Enthusiast1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Come on dude, I see what you're saying, but I gotta remind you that some of us have risen from the very bottom, just like this guy is able to. Right now, you're correct; he ain't shit. He can completely change all of this though! He needs to find it within himself to become a real man, solve his problems, and quit relying on other people for his happiness. If we can do this, so can he. He's just so far gone that it'll be a real effort to have him swallow the red pill.

While I think there is truth to this post, I don't think we should call him out for this. He has his own opinion about us, and what should we care? If he wants to remain unsuccessful, then he can do that while we rise to the top 20%. We shouldn't give a single shit about what he says.

[–]trp_angry_dwarf0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

this guy is able to

Not everyone is. He might be able to crawl up from a 1 to a 4, but from the other info in this thread makes me think that (unfortunately) he's a write off

[–]Corndog_Enthusiast0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You may be right, but hey, it's a 400% improvement. Even though that's far in the bottom 80%, I'd still take that if I were him. Bangin 3's and 4's is better than Jill.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No beard at all. That's 10% of his problem right there.

[–]circlhat0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I surprise at all the comments here dismissing this as a simple case of "Trying to please others and weak", Rather than this guy is trying to survive (Personal safety) Being red pill means mainstream hates you. Being male means the mainstream hates you. Being white means the mainstream hates you.

Guys do not catch a break, with so many females leaders the first thing they do is demonized males. I was brought into a class called manners and was told, "TO buy a women dinner, open the door for her and expect nothing in return"

Hearing this at 5 years old fucks you up hard, add that too the fact unless you are alpha both man and woman feel they can treat you like shit.

Now no one believes the outsider, "If 3 are more people say you are wrong than its you not them" This is the golden rule, now you get 2 million women all saying the red pill is wrong. It takes a lot of balls to stand up too that without any reinforcement.

This is why men's right is so important, but most red pillers see it as a scene, "Hey we are the cool kids, we lift MRM is a bunch of pussies" Without the support we lead these men on a dark path.

I always knew something was wrong, but I was never bitter,angry, or unconfident, I was simply confused I don't know why so many man seek to admit something they didn't do

I never thought I was entitled to sex and never pushed for it, I thought if a girl said she liked me but wanted to wait on sex that a real man would comply.

Now here is the kicker, if I was a female I would get told to stand up for myself, but man get respect by letting people walk all over them in blue pill world.

I was told being nice doesn't entitle me to anything(Which I never thought it did), I was feeling used and cheated and lied too, something women will hear nothing of.

They can quickly caste you into a nerd/loser/gamer than its over at that point, you got natural alpha attacking you, other SJW attacking you.

He is all alone, no friends, no help, just his president telling him he is a violent piece of worthless shit. It has nothing too do with ego or pride it has to do with knowledge , as soon as I got knowledge I got laid the next fucking week.

It was that quick, went from no girls, too having a fucking field day, as I said I was already confident as fuck, fit and made good money, it didn't take much for me to get the ball rolling and all it took was saying no and walking away

[–]mygodimpathetic0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

as soon as I got knowledge I got laid the next fucking week.

I want to believe you. That fast, really? What did you do?

[–]circlhat0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

my entire issue was the close, I would ask permission to hold her hand, kiss her ect...

It was much worst than "Can I kiss you?" it was, "May I have your permission to kiss you me'lady?" while tipping my fedora hat

Most girls would be turned off and leave but never mean or rude, only had 1-2 girls that really tried to lie and use me.

The night I got laid was so surreal and so simple that I thought it would be better. I made a ad on craigslist in the romance section, use some simple PUA and actually got pretty good responses.

the 5-10's all ignored me , but I found myself a solid 4(chubby not fat), and in person she was easily 5, and if she actually comb her hair(Black girl no weave) she could of been a 6 at best.

I didn't really consider this my true test because it was too easy, she answered my email saying, "She was desperate and would take whatever she could get"

If a girl opens with that line you are going to get laid unless you seriously fuck it up. Which I almost did, I almost blew my chance with her, she was starring me in the eyes, and I kept talking trying to make conversation, something just popped in my head and said kiss her you idiot. I kiss her, fingered her and brought her back to a hotel and fucked her.

[–]thereddespair0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Basically he is a worthless person, in his own words.

[–]hippydippybs 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The feeling of pity and revulsion I feel for this person is the same feeling of pity and revulsion I felt for the homeless or destitute.

I WANT to reach out and help, I want to donate, make things better.

But then the telltale signs of mental illness, drug use, and sometimes, pure laziness appear, and the desire is extinguished.

[–]C00l_Guy0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I sure am a loser but at least I don't identify with a masculine self improvement movement

I... This guy is sick. Even the most pathetic posters here at least take responsibility that they need to improve.

[–]doublereignbeau0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What causes something like this?

He craves belonging. He has none and will do or say anything for some semblance of commonality. He is a coward that puts on a mask so that he has some kind of excuse to grasp at a shred of human interaction.

He is a corpse, not a man. Nothing can be learned from him.

[–]sigmayogi 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Mommy who hates men will do it. Imagine growing up in a single alpha widow mom household listening to how awful men are and how special and infallible women are. That or having a really passive beta dad. I've seen both scenarios play out in late twenties virgins.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Imagine growing up in a single alpha widow mom household listening to how awful men are and how special and infallible women are.

Don't need to imagine this, I had it.

Everything that men did was terrible. Everything that women did was because they were damaged by society or men.

I grew up thinking women were either fabulous or damaged by men, and men were awful. I eventually got enough ammunition to argue with my mother about it. Totally took her to town about it. Fought through the denial and obfuscation and won. Even my dad had to agree she does it.

I wish he'd had the balls or observation to present the other side of the coin during my formative years - my brother and me would have had vastly easier lives.

[–]sigmayogi 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Same here. Father was absent, busy drinking and being a playa. She took it out in her home tirades about men. When I confront her now - she says "but of course I didn't mean you!".

Majority of women can't reason or think. Its sad growing up and realizing just how dumb my mother is. How many of her life decisions are just first emotional reactions she had at the moment. A lot of dumb men are the same to be fair, but its almost entirely true for women.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

"Of course I didn't mean you.... ". Had this one before too (from a gf). You end up feeling like she doesn't see you as a man... which it turns out she didn't.

[–]darth_pravus0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People eventually take shape of their oppressors. This "man" is oppressed by women. They dominate him. He is taking their shape. He is becoming them to cope with his oppression. It's that simple.

Freedom flows through power. He has none. He will never be free. Never.

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