Women are not the enemy

PedophilePriest · 2015-02-21T19:33:24+00:00

I think its important to understand that any meaningful relationship can only end in heartbreak or death for one or both partners.

Knowing that going into a relationship, that is the price of admission and you will never know when the bill comes due.

As long as you come to terms with that and find it an acceptable price I have no problems with a LTR.

flexiblehold · 2015-02-22T01:26:27+00:00

If women are the enemy you are effectively a misanthropist, and misanthropists overlook the role nature plays in the wickedness of human beings, the way our biology and evolutionary imperatives dictate our instincts and actions.

Our red pill takeaway should be that women are simply, on balance, as desirable and beautiful and wicked and ugly as nature herself, and like nature, both awe-inspiring and dangerous.

therellikofthenight · 2015-02-21T20:30:25+00:00

Women aren't the enemy. Women aren't even remotely a threat. I mostly either love women or don't care about having them around. And that's just the truth. The hordes of mentally damaged, woman-pedestalizing, SJW pussies are something else. It's all in how you handle it. I avoid these types of men, if they can even be considered that.

unrekt · 2015-02-21T19:46:47+00:00

I agree with you and all, but can we do without throwing MGTOW and the associated cost-benefit analysis in the same category with 'women-hating'? Just because an individual makes the decision to forego relationships (whether temporary or indefinite), does not mean they're 'missing the point'. Different strokes, different folks. Thanks.

Dev_on · 2015-02-21T20:36:13+00:00

There is no enemy, life isn't a movie.

Its man vs nature, and the villan could care less about your struggles.

arjuice · 2015-02-22T07:46:29+00:00

I really hate to use this word but there is actual miso-gyny (removing white knight troll search bait) in this thread.

I empathize with the haters and I laugh at them at the same time.

Women are like fluids, they take the shape of the container. Most women are primarily driven by emotion, not logic. Men are driven the opposite way. Biology dictates the Captain/First Mate dynamic and that's why shit worked well for a millennium. The genders are equal by way of value, not function.

Once feminism flew past the point of equality it actively destroyed the cultural container. Hence why shit tests/girl logic is almost systematic or somewhat predictable, women commit horrible acts motivated by self interest/narcissism/solipsism and why collectivism/welfare/state power has exploded in recent years. This is also why a lot of women are really fucking horrible women. The majority will succumb to the feels roller coaster.

If you can only see women in their entirety as enemies then you are constrained in your world view. Meet women in a country where masculinity is a virtue, welfare is fairly low, culture and family are strongly held values and the state has less power. You will quickly learn that most women aren't frigid cunts. They still require a masculine mate and leader regardless. Both men on an individual level and society form a woman's moral container. Women are like growing any plants; they require a good environment and individual attention. Finding wife material is possible (No fucking way I would get hitched in a Western country!) but extremely difficult because society is so toxic and incentivizes destructive behavior, not because women are born to be assholes.

That being said the majority of TRPers are stuck in places where the environment is hostile so fuck it, if you are dark triad treat the vapid ones like crap. I personally prefer to be assertive rather than a complete dick but I get it.

Just don't run around hating women. If you hate half the population of the planet your whole life you are going to have a bad time. This is the what the OP was trying to convey. In the LONG RUN it isn't always healthy for most men. If you can swing the bachelor life do it, just remember that choices have consequences you may not appreciate in the present.

GREF_ · 2015-02-22T01:28:27+00:00

if you truly believe that women are evil, that you should never risk being hurt (either emotionally or financially) by getting into an LTR, and that you're better off MGTOW...

You could go MGTOW, but here we promote endless plating.

SkorchZang · 2015-02-22T00:59:47+00:00

I'm at this ridiculous point where I truly believe that women are evil, and I fucking LIKE it.

Labore_Et_Constantia · Sun Feb 22 0:11:24 2015 UTC

Whimsical blue pilled way of thinking:

The gears of human progress have been greased by the blood of men.

Women vote in welfare states wherever they get votes

Women push for things like alimony, child support, unequal birth rights, having complete and total control of what is and isn't rape (meaning they define it based on feelings), quotas at universities/jobs

Women give white feathers to men

Women actively shame and hate low SMV men just for existing

Women aren't the enemy in the sense that IF men were collectively aware of how dark triad/self-serving they can be, they could easily tame them (as this section shows). Women ARE the enemy in the sense that in the current system, they have complete and total dominion over man via the state should they ever get tired of him (EVERY man is JUST a woman's word away from being ruined via false rape, false domestic assault charge or her divorcing you and stealing resources from you for the duration of your existence).

You can ignore all of the above and choose to say b-but, my relationship are better because I swallowed TRP and know how to control women!!!

Maybe your own personal relationships with them are better, but ALWAYS remember that you have the same proverbial guillotine hanging over your head if you live in a first world country where you're guilty until innocent as a man and where woman's word is gospel. Also don't gloss over the last 50 years of disgusting misandry propagated by women in an attempt to dominate man.

mygodimpathetic · 2015-02-22T04:13:43+00:00

Bingo. Thank you for writting this. I'd been meaning to post something like this. Not from experience, but to sort of better understand the ultimate goal of TRP. I think you hit the nail in the head:

This place is supposed to help you navigate the gender dynamics of this screwed up society, not complain about how women are monsters.

sigmayogi · 2015-02-21T23:45:55+00:00

Its the nature that is the enemy... if you want to go the enemy route. That love she feels for you will be gone in a second if her tingles disappear. I am exaggerating, but turning into a lovey dovey wimp will ruin your true love faster than a rogue meteor.

armenia4ever · 2015-02-23T16:11:22+00:00

I concur with the OP.

If I'm honest, I challenge the AWALT concept. In accommodation with unicorns, I suggest MOST women are like that.

As they say, men are the true romantics, and I do desire a LTR and eventual marriage growing old together kind of tale.

The RP makes you aware of just how hard that is. Even in a LTR, you have to be on your game. You can't let yourself go in anyway because you "landed" her, and if I'm honest, it is tiring.

Its like always having to watch your back.

I love women. I really do. I understand the anger phrase, but we must be wary of letting anger - no matter how justified - jade us to the point of being bitter people who self-destruct.

The RedPill is important for influencing your life. If you already a bitter person however, it can make you even more bitter.

Its like educating a hardened criminal. It just makes him a smarter criminal. It doesn't actually change who he is.

CapnDancyPants · 2015-02-25T00:25:41+00:00

Women lack the capacity to be amical or inimical.

jac99 · 2015-02-22T20:12:16+00:00

I personally believe MGTOW's are frustrated betas that have trouble landing pussy. I spent a good deal of time listening to them on youtube. They strike me as being aware of RP truths, but not able to employ them for success.

There are good women out there. I married one. LTR's and marriages are fucking wonderful with the right woman. I have a companion who loves to spend time with me, cooks for me, cleans for me, sucks my dick and fucks me whenever i want. She's a great mom and she's still hot at 40.

Trust me gentlemen the good women are out there. Yes AWALT still holds true. What you need to realize is that you can keep a woman good by doing your job as the man and being a leader that she can admire.

favours_of_the_moon · 2015-02-22T06:23:00+00:00

Most women don't HAVE that deeper level.

If they ever did, it has been indoctrinated out of them, in favor of the Female Ego Quantum Singularity.

asd1100 · 2015-02-22T11:05:18+00:00

I often find, however, that there is an overriding negativity towards women and long term relationships that doesn't make sense.

it very much does.

I'm almost 40, and there is very little in this life I've experienced as good as the feeling of making love to someone you truly care about.

honestly that says more about you than it says about women.

I'm talking about that deeper connection that comes from someone you're in love with.

That deeper connection comes to fill up a emptyness you have. It's a universal hormonal patch meant to fix you up and push you into dedicating your life to another's survival. It's literally chemistry.

That should be your goal

If you dedicate your life to a chemical payday, you should just do heroin, it might actually be cheaper in the long term.

if you truly believe that women are evil

that is a huge leap. IF anyone thinks they are evil they should just fuck off. But to believe that they are objects of projective emotions just as delusional, to believe that getting "high" of their presence is a positive thing is much more destructive.

that you should never risk being hurt (either emotionally or financially) by getting into an LTR

You don't need a LTR to love, you just need to love with abandon, to release your fear and outcome dependence and love women in the moment from the second you meet them to the second you say good bye. You can have a sex weekend just aas deep and as profound as a 10 year relationship, if you are emotionally open.

In that sense we are far from averse to risk or being hurt. We do the hard shit over and over, while a LTR fan does it once and then just milks the chick for the emotional high until she dries up, but he is so averse toward effort that he sticks to it, being gratefull for even the smalles of emotional validations that he gets.

This place is supposed to help you navigate the gender dynamics of this screwed up society,

That is why when we say LTR have no productive benefits, they are just emotional safe places you can do without. You should listen.

not complain about how women are monsters.

We don't either, they are just self-interested animals like all of us, just that within the context of modern society, they become monsters and men (that share your hedonistic, fearful mindset) become perfect victims, masochist that ruin themselves (and the woman they latch on to - teaching them cruelty has no consequence)

Doctor_Mayhem · 2015-02-22T04:13:46+00:00

Since I'm a bitter misanthrope, I'm here to tell you that, yes, women are the enemy and yes, women are monsters. So don't feel bad about hurting them.

Of course, I got a pretty good score on the Dark Triad test, so maybe I'm just an asshole.

Either way, it's fun to hurt women. For all the shit that modern girls put a man through, you better goddamn believe that I find it to be morally right to wreck them and their lives.

Sometimes, revenge is justice.

Zackcid · 2015-02-22T07:19:09+00:00

I hope this all didn't come to you just from meeting this one woman, committing to her, and then making love to her. You should've come to this conclusion a long time ago. (Assuming lifting, reading, socializing, and generally becoming a more actualized person.) It's impossible to hate women if you've truly walked "the path of TRP" to its fullest and become a Stronger version of yourself.

I admit, reading the first couple sentences of your post, it immediately reminded me of a love-struck bluepill (not saying you're one) who thinks he's found "the one" and starts talking like a hippie alluva sudden.

nzgs · 2015-02-22T15:46:29+00:00

Women are not the enemy at all and never have been. Leftism is the enemy, and while most feminists are female, the vast majority of its political enablers are bluepill males.

There do seem to be some guys who are on here just to vent bitterness at women though, which lowers of the whole tone of the place.

teeay · 2015-02-22T09:13:02+00:00

The thing is, I'm almost 40

Young whippersnapper!

there is very little in this life I've experienced as good as the feeling of making love to someone you truly care about.

You need to get out more then. Seriously, fucking someone you care about can be cool. But fucking someone you don't care as much about can also be cool. Caring about people can be cool on its own, because fucking and caring are good things that feel good (unless you're a sociopath, caring's not such fun then). So is runner's high, some drugs, exposure to beauty, an amazing meal, a spectacular piece of music or other art, the buzz of achieving a difficult goal, reflecting on a life spent in service of a worthwhile purpose... all the good things in life, essentially. (And some of the bad things ain't all bad, either. Pain can be quite... cleansing.. if done right). Evolution just made fucking feel really good so you'd pair-bond. Eventually you figure out you don't need or want that anymore and you can override and control it a bit, and then the other experiences are less attenuated by comparison. So there's some compensation for the sore knees and lowered energy, I guess.

when she whispers in your ear that she loves you... that feeling of being loved, the warmth that overcomes you, there's nothing like it.

I don't hate women (or men, for that matter), that would be a waste of time. But it's also a huge waste believing in magic love woo. Like /u/asd1100 says below, it's just chemistry. From my own experience I know how conditional and transient women's love for men can be. Why would I value it as highly as you seem to? Unless she's on a pedestal, her love is nice, but nothing special. And putting anyone on a pedestal is mental.

I'm talking about that deeper connection that comes from someone you're in love with.

"In love" does not exist, it's an illusion. I've been there, got the t-shirt and all, way more than once, and I'm here to tell you there is no such thing in reality. In lust, sure - that I can do, with a smile. "Love" in the sense of really caring about another's happiness and well-being, sure, that I can do, but for lots of people, not just women. But "in love" is just NRE, just chemicals. A fairy story whispered on the winds of existence by the only deity we get in this life. You can let it go and still be happy.

oldredder · 2015-02-22T11:00:06+00:00

I often find, however, that there is an overriding negativity towards women and long term relationships that doesn't make sense.

It makes perfect sense. The only way to come to a different conclusion is to be a serial-lottery winner where you just didn't meet women who mistreat men. Most of the mistreatment I've seen go to men other than me but regardless I've seen it so I can't un-see it.

you've missed the point. This place is supposed to help you navigate the gender dynamics of this screwed up society, not complain about how women are monsters.

No, you've missed the point. There is no navigation except warning signs & directions and saying what women really are & do is that navigation. You can't have one without the other.

The thing is, I'm almost 40, and there is very little in this life I've experienced as good as the feeling of making love to someone you truly care about.

I'm almost 40 and I can name a few things. 1) heroin 2) making money trading options 3) having a reliable, warm place to sleep. Spent some years homeless. You do that & you learn to really appreciate when it's over. For some it never will be.

4) honest, sensible conversation with no games, no drama. I can't get these things from a woman (ok: I did sometimes get heroin from a woman, I will be honest)

fap_the_pain_away · 2015-02-22T04:53:31+00:00

I hope a woman pokes holes in your condoms. Or falsely causes you of rape. Or leads you on sending strong signals only to leave at the last minute. Or spreads vicious rumors about you after you reject her.

Then maybe you will shut up about how we're friends. We're not. Men are supposed to dominate women, and if we dont, then we suffer.

"Enemy" is an acceptable word, though it borders on being too strong. "Adversary" might be better. Either way, be nice to them and let your guard down at your own peril.

The world is RED. Stop resisting. Stop negotiating. Accept it.

bitches_be_crazy86 · 2015-02-22T08:59:17+00:00

Women aren't evil. Women can be enjoyable. Just keep in mind that you're not there to make them happy, they aren't saints nor have morals. If they are with you it's either because A) they want something from you B) they find you attractive C) combination of the two. If you have none of those they won't be interested in you and from their perspective you might as well kill yourself.

You should put yourself in a situation where they are with you because they attracted to you and they want to. No strings attached just raw fucking. That's what women are for, no one wants to have a wife and build a relationship. If men could, they would fuck a new girl every day. Don't chase women, don't jump through hoops, don't get into relationships you don't give a fuck about.

If you put yourself in a situation where you do stuff to get some pussy you put yourself in a situation where you will fail.

SquareScrewdriver · 2015-02-22T16:52:39+00:00

I'm as old as you and I tell you three times. That feeling is a lie. It does not last. If chasing feelings is your goal you are going to be in for a rough time.

TheJohnDough · 2015-02-21T21:14:07+00:00

No one here ever said women are evil. You can't blame the scorpion for stinging the frog, its in his nature. It is actually widely accepted in TRP that women are not evil and we should not be angry at them, this is just what they do.

Jokoran · 2015-02-22T07:29:22+00:00

Women are just a force of nature. Like a wave. You don't fight the wave, you ride it.

Master1176 · 2015-02-23T04:58:36+00:00

I think it stems from something really depressing that we all learn when we take the red pill: That our women don't love us unconditionally. They don't love us the way we were told they would. They don't love it when we cry at the end of a movie - they love us when we do the things that Alpha males do. And so to some of us, that feels like they don't love us at all.

But I got over that, and I think I can help. While it's true that they don't love us the way we wanted, they do love us in their own way. And they don't just love us, they ADORE us. Have you ever looked into the loving eyes of your dog? Doesn't that look pretty similar to the eyes of your woman after you've made her come 5 times?

If you pick a bad woman, it's your own fault. If you look for a good woman and find one, and then later on she screws around on you or loses interest, that's your fault too. It's your responsibility as a man to show her the way. You've got to do your job. If you do your job correctly, your woman will adore you.

Women are beautiful creatures when you understand them. Their brains work the way that they do all because of the biological necessity to protect children. They are the mothers of all of us, and of our children.

Now that we understand them, we're free to respect them, and even love them.

WeCantHaveFun · 2015-02-22T04:42:03+00:00

Do you let him cum in your mouth? Do you enjoy it?

Really?

Title	Women are not the enemy
Author	_penseroso_
Upvotes	70
Comments	54
Date	February 21, 2015 7:25 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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