Do not Talk about The Red Pill: A Lesson Learned

Docbear64 · 2016-05-25T00:48:01+00:00

"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. "

It's the best quote for things like this , the thing is we have a society of programmed individuals who believe the world is supposed to work a certain way . I get the desire to want to educate and help a buddy out but the vast majority of people around you are members and believers in the system in place. to challenge that system doesn't make you look like a wise educator but an evil anomaly to them . Lesson learned .

2comment · 2016-05-25T06:24:12+00:00

When you talk about the red pill, only talk about the tenets, not the actual label. The knowledge is mostly old, the name is new. Don't give it a label - that doesn't give them anything concrete to google and pin on you. Couch the lessons in a humorous way or funny story they won't reject or deny and dole it out piece by piece, slowly, over time.

That gives you plenty of time to guage how they take it.

You can't undo a lifetime of brainwashing by going "Yo, TRP" and expect good results. Especially from a generation that googles and takes any of the top 3 results as some type of gospel (my top 3 are this sub and 2 mainstream hit pieces).

JohnKwando · 2016-05-25T02:20:25+00:00

time to reevaluate your "close" friend to see if he makes he cut

fnordsnord · 2016-05-25T03:31:51+00:00

Do we never say 'Do not talk about Red Pill?"

Is that not written ANYWHERE?

For Christ's sake.

egoisenemy · 2016-05-25T05:57:48+00:00

Your friend is a fuckboy, gossiping bitch. No real friend would pull this effeminate bullshit like that by not saying it to your face.

rafay_M · 2016-05-25T06:32:53+00:00

George Orwell wrote about it his marvellous essays once. I love Orwell so I'm gonna quote a bit that's relevent. Its this one: https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

Meaningless words. In certain kinds of writing, particularly in art criticism and literary criticism, it is normal to come across long passages which are almost completely lacking in meaning.† Words like romantic, plastic, values, human, dead, sentimental, natural, vitality, as used in art criticism, are strictly meaningless, in the sense that they not only do not point to any discoverable object, but are hardly ever expected to do so by the reader. When one critic writes, "The outstanding feature of Mr. X's work is its living quality," while another writes, "The immediately striking thing about Mr. X's work is its peculiar deadness," the reader accepts this as a simple difference of opinion. If words like black and white were involved, instead of the jargon words dead and living, he would see at once that language was being used in an improper way. Many political words are similarly abused. The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies "something not desirable." The words democracy, socialism, freedom, patriotic, realistic, justice have each of them several different meanings which cannot be reconciled with one another. In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using that word if it were tied down to any one meaning. Words of this kind are often used in a consciously dishonest way. That is, the person who uses them has his own private definition, but allows his hearer to think he means something quite different. Statements like Marshal Pétain was a true patriot, The Soviet press is the freest in the world, The Catholic Church is opposed to persecution, are almost always made with intent to deceive. Other words used in variable meanings, in most cases more or less dishonestly, are: class, totalitarian, science, progressive, reactionary, bourgeois, equality.

Lesson is: Don't buy into their buzzwords like "misogynist". Seeing men and women for what they are does not make you a woman hater.

This is a standard shit test. Face it like you would any other. They're using social unacceptability to shame you for something that shouldn't be shamed.

When you're done with dealing with it (Through A&A, or any of the other five methods, see TRP sidebar), tone it down and ask them seriously what, if anything, the two of you believe differently about women. There is nothing. You just don't sugarcoat it.

Everyone agrees with TRP. They just do it plausibly deniably and without the polemics. If I don't mention the sub, women nod to everything I say about them that I learned through TRP. They use phrases like "sooo true" or "mindblowing" all the time, because I don't do it in a way that insults them, but in a way that explains them to themselves .

DatNatroGuy · 2016-05-25T04:42:01+00:00

It's not worth it. Let them find their own path and let their problems be their own.

I told my old roommate I had lived with about it very subtly and eventually showed him the sub. He is very unsuccessful getting laid and a huge pussy. I tried taking him under my wing so to speak, even though he is twice my age.

Seems like he's picking it up and then... he goes and marries some ugly ho he met after a month of dating.

Don't be my old roommate.

SigmaPUA_111 · 2016-05-25T07:29:06+00:00

I dunno, sometimes it goes both ways. I can either get mad or just hold frame and own my position. I think it only matters more at a place of work.

Now they're convinced that I am a misogynist.

Outside of work, this has never been proven to be a bad thing for one's dating life. As soon as a dude tells a beautiful woman: "Watch out for that guy," she's almost always going to be interested in that guy. Believe it. Being called a misogynist only really means you're prone to catching shit from feminists and low-end women you don't want to date anyway.

I used to be more scared about using the term "red pill" but it can be applied to far more than women, sex, and dating.

herewehoagain · 2016-05-25T05:24:53+00:00

Most dudes nowadays are pathetic, limp wristed, back stabbing faggots. You, like most, learned rule #1 the hard way.

TheRedStoic · 2016-05-25T20:23:36+00:00

Don't share it directly with anyone who hasn't already discovered it themselves. (and is into it).

My three best friends are RP. We all found it around the same time, largely by accident. It clicked and we started discussing it. Anyone else wait until they want help them send them something that could easily be passed off as comedy and contains no RP terminology. They'll find it from there. If they don't, they didn't want it enough.

Shit I send out the book of pook pretty much weekly to some poor shlub.

generallyok · 2016-05-26T13:45:55+00:00

hint: YOU ARE A MISOGYNIST.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2016-05-25T11:49:54+00:00

The first rule of Fight Club.....

Thizzlebot · 2016-05-25T05:42:40+00:00

It's fight club you don't directly talk about it. You can mention the ideas if you want but even that's pushing it sometimes. I talk to a lot of people about red pill principles and everyone is very receptive.

jackandjill22 · 2016-05-26T03:28:26+00:00

You've never been betrayed before.

HueHue08 · 2016-05-30T08:22:01+00:00

The TRP is misogynist.

deville05 · 2016-05-25T05:16:40+00:00

I onky talk about it with a guy at work i know. Even then i never mentioned any "cult" like underground subculture. I guaged him over months n only shared some wisdom and articles (the text n not the links) if and when they pertained to his situation. I never say it out of a need to confide in someone

ronsoness · 2016-05-25T10:44:07+00:00

you can talk about it to a friend, but you just need to share certain ideas bit by bit. for example, sharing the idea that cave women were naturally attracted to masculine men, and that biology has not changed even in the present.

if however you go and say "it's a community that swallows red pills like in the matrix in an effort to regain masculine culture in a society where men are being ruined by feminism," then you'll appear like a radical.

also, the guy has a big mouth. that is the real lesson learned. don't ever tell this friend anything you don't want others to hear about.

hailhailhailandkill · 2016-05-25T14:03:29+00:00

It's all about perception.

People may have a bad impression of TRP (including "TRP celebs" individually). Referring IRL thus, may make them disdain your following words.

Mentioning and basing the claim on TRP also makes you look like a copycat in their eyes. Kind of repulsive dogma to them and portrays you as a wannabe.

Internalizing TRP content without mentioning its name while talking will keep their guards down. Rule 1 fellaz!

Perception! As a quoting copycat or as a confident man.

0_fox_are_given · 2016-05-25T11:24:38+00:00

If he can out you on something like this. There's no way you can trust this dude. He's fake as fuck. Re-evaluate your 'friends'

Nigbones · 2016-05-25T11:40:59+00:00

If he uses the term misogynist unironically, he's most likely a bluepilled idiot.

IVIaskerade · 2016-05-25T12:01:48+00:00

This isn't really a question but I felt like I needed to get this out there.

That's because you're an insufferable pleb who knows that he should be keeping his mouth shut but isn't disciplined enough to.

djbarroso85 · 2016-05-25T08:45:13+00:00

Okay, lesson learned. Burn these bridges man, and start over.

I just introduced a friend to TRP by getting him into some pussy that he hadn't been able to get into before now.

That was his introduction. Show the person the magic, then tell them how it works if they ask. Otherwise, let them believe you are an alpha male god.

KumonRoguing · 2016-05-25T11:30:03+00:00

I got drunk one night by the fire and some deep conversations ensued between me and my bros. I brought up TRP and most of my friends accepted it, thank Odin. I can only imagine how South it could go.

hva_vet · 2016-05-25T12:50:45+00:00

You probably stumbled upon RedPill through your own research. Something led you here. When you found RedPill it must have stood out as the absolute truth and you were able to see this and and use it to better yourself. You cannot lead someone else to this type of knowledge. They have to find it for themselves just like you did; or not at all.

returnofthemackX · 2016-05-25T07:40:07+00:00

You are fucking stupid

niczar · 2016-05-25T12:35:18+00:00

So fucking what? Just the other day I was hanging out with a bunch of young leftist artists and I told them I was very sexist. With a smile. They thought it was absolutely hilarious.

BenOfMahogany · 2016-05-25T14:37:34+00:00

Hey honestly, why still bother with this group of friends if they're brainwashed?

Title	Do not Talk about The Red Pill: A Lesson Learned
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Date	May 25, 2016 12:40 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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