Marijuana and TRP?

1NV0K3R · 2015-08-12T13:38:53+00:00

I personally would try to stop.

Having smoked consistently myself for the past two years, I want to stop. It absolutely wrecks all motivation, makes trivial things entertaining, and fucks with diet. Also, despite what everyone says, I find it to be physically addicting, eg. if I don't smoke or can't "look forward" to smoking I get agitated, I'm less palatable, eating becomes difficult etc.

Every 1/4 I buy is always the last I'm going to buy I tell myself.

Get out while you can.

PS. Not to say you can't use it in moderation. I don't think it is inherently harmful, but if you do it all the time...

Red_Invictus · 2015-08-12T16:47:18+00:00

First of all, disregard any comments from users here who aren't at least well versed in the fact that many different strains of cannabis exist and have varying effects. IE: some weed actually makes you very energetic and focused (sativa).

The biggest point to drive home here, there is no RP stance on it whether it's right or wrong. There never is a "RP stance" on anything. RP asks you to evaluate the situation yourself, and come to a decision with logic and reason. The only thing RP has to do with this context or topic is that you have options and you end up assessing them.

In my opinion, it's perfectly fine in moderation, you mention that you have a difficult time saying no to your friend when you've got nothing better to do. I think you need better shit to be doing, rather than trying to give it up completely, use in moderation and be intelligent about substance use above all else.

TLDR: weeds fine, be real with yourself when it's a problem.

machimus · 2015-08-12T13:44:08+00:00

Hey, great question. While marijuana can be great for creativity, a lot of TRP requires you to think quickly, clearly, and logically, and to be proactive. In that regard it's safe to say it does hold you back. I also think I read that it lowers testosterone, but I can't find the source I was thinking of.

I don't think it's evil or anything, but lacking those things is a pretty big impairment, you dig?

redditarcm89 · 2015-08-12T13:46:52+00:00

Yes. Not necessarily in the way you mean, though.

Psychological addiction is more complex and intense than anyone who hasn't experienced it, and many who do, imagine it. It's also very common among enjoyable drugs. I've found being stoned isn't all that enjoyable, because it keeps me from doing any of the useful, enjoyable things I usually do, so I must resort back to time-sucks. It also has a detrimental effect on lung capacity.

Personally, I stick to occasional psychedelics and MDMA. They have fantastic pragmatic uses (MDMA to get closer with an LTR, or consider emotional problems I may encounter. Psychedelics to get a new perspective, and bring spirituality into my life). Weed may be a decent way to relax for some, but it's a setback/limitation you're placing on yourself if you use it.

MrEiffel · 2015-08-12T13:41:09+00:00

All drugs negatively affect your brain and your mindset.

Consuming them with strict discipline is ok, but the moment you start asking yourself these kinds of questions you already went way to far.

davevd · 2015-08-12T14:14:44+00:00

Everything in moderation including moderation. Some of the best thoughts and ideas I've ever had have been through the influence of Marajuana... but definitely not something to make a habit of.

not2close · 2015-08-12T13:42:34+00:00

Does drinking counteract TRP?

pennypuptech · 2015-08-12T14:53:50+00:00

I'm of the impression that if you can't moderate and accomplish the goals you have set yourself, it's time to take a step back.

I did once I finally realized the voice that was pressing at me. There's more out there, time for you to go get it.

Define moderation. If you can't stick to it, then it's time to quit.

nathanisfat · 2015-08-12T14:54:50+00:00

It's fine, quite possibly even good for you. Just treat being high like any other mentally-impared state (angry, tired, manic, etc.) and avoid making decisions more significant than what to have for dinner until you come down.

Merica911 · 2015-08-12T17:03:22+00:00

Okay, I think if you're using weed to escape from something then that's a problem. And I would never smoke during the daytime before work or a friend / family meet up.

Overall, weed isn't bad at all. A year ago my appendix ruptured and after I was on the strongest painkillers the world had to offer. I was still in pain after 2 weeks and I was popping them every 4 hours.. I was down to my last 2.. I would say I was depending on them. Then, I bought some weed and helped with the pain and I didn't need the painkillers. Weed actually helped me out.

huntersam13 · 2015-08-12T17:06:08+00:00

Marijuana helps you to think about issues in your life from a different perspective. It can be helpful and insightful. But as with everything else, dont let it become a detriment to your own progression as a man.

RealRational · 2015-08-12T17:23:37+00:00

It actually helped me get my life on track years back, since it cured my insomnia. I went from not sleeping for 1-3 days then crashing for 12-18 hours and not sleeping for days again, repeat, to waking up at like 7am every day even without an alarm clock. So, it saved me from horrid Insomnia that no prescription medicine could help with.

I'm even able to keep that sleeping pattern once I stop using it for up to 3 months.

Then I started using it for more than just falling asleep right before bed. When I went out, playing video games before it's late enough for bed. Basically using more of it. Keep in mind, this is tempered with the fact that I vape, I do not smoke. Healthier to begin with.

Basically, once my usage went up I started to notice a decline in motivation. It went from being easy to pop out of bed in the morning to being a struggle again. Actually getting work done during the day became a much greater struggle almost to the point of the terrible insomnia; though not quite THAT bad.

So, I dropped it back to weekends only. Sunday doesn't count cause I gotta wake up early the next day and be motivated. Currently I'm using over the counter sleeping pills to fall asleep during the week. But I can't do that forever, so I'm hoping once I've reduced my usage (I don't use it every Fri/Sat either) I can go back to 2-4 hits just to help me fall asleep before bed. If I can't rely on it for sleep anymore then I don't know what I'm gonna do, have to figure something else out.

I've stopped using it recreationally. Fuck's up motivation, makes me relentlessly horny, fucks up my diet. Not worth it just to feel really calm and floaty.

trancedj · 2015-08-12T18:49:18+00:00

I've smoked for about 25 years. I strictly only vape these days. Everything in moderation dude, but I can share this...

Negative aspects: Metal clarity suffers when I vape (where are my god damn car keys). Social situations are not as easy (makes me anti-social). Motivation can be affected. Can be expensive as fuck.

Here's some things I’ve noticed that can be considered "healthy": I've smoked before and got an instant erection. It enhances the senses - e.g. sex can be awesome while high. It's easier on your system than alcohol. Vaporizing prevents the munchies and thus ruining your diet. I've never tried it, but some dudes have told me that eating it and lifting is awesome - apparently it helps them focus on their muscles more.

Now I only vape after I've completed whatever it is that I need to get done that day. And I never do it before going out looking for girls. It takes away the edge I need to run proper game. Just my .2 - any questions feel free to ask.

teeelo · 2015-08-12T20:12:01+00:00

After about 3 days of not smoking weed you feel much better. That hunger to get stoned again vanishes and you go back to normal.

One of the easiest drugs to quit.

whiskyvillain · 2015-08-12T20:48:36+00:00

I say no to weed, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, or any other acutely psychoactive drug that has potential to damage my mind or body. I'm a bit extreme, but that's my recommendation.

jtrigueros123 · 2015-08-14T02:30:08+00:00

From my personal experience with pot, i can tell you that, if you let a substance control your life, instead of you controlling its consuption, you have a serious issue. I like pot, (a lot) but i completely understand that if i, for example, smoke it every day, i won't be able to achieve anything or do anything towards my goal, so my solution was, instead of quitting, i regulated my consuption to once every two weeks or so. And i think that, pot consumption is similar to eating disorders or alcoholism. Obesity, for instance, is a consequence of not controlling your food intake, and alcoholism is a consequence of not controlling your alcohol intake. So, just not give pot any chance to control your life, because, as you can see, almost any substance (legal or ilegal) can make you drift apart from the way towards your goal.

EscapedTheMatrix · 2015-08-14T10:08:00+00:00

Quitting weed had the same effect as NoFap for me. Increased mental clarity, increased energy, and moderated dopamine levels.

I have nothing against weed. I really enjoyed it during that time in my life and I'm totally fine with others enjoying it too. But it isn't for me anymore.

Plus, quitting weed just for the sake of quitting is an extraordinarily good exercise in mental discipline. I've found that consistently doing things you don't want to do and not doing things you do want to do is an incredibly effective way to increase your confidence, because it fosters a mindset of being in total control of yourself, your actions, and your environment. (If you're interested, check out this post I made on NoFap a while ago; I go into more detail on this subject.)

So to answer your question, yes quitting marijuana has improved my game and overall quality of life.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2015-08-12T16:22:23+00:00

The problem with pot is, for a lot of guys, they start out recreationally, and then pretty soon they're going home and smoking up after class every day, and then after a couple of months...it's 5 years later.

You have to decide if you personally function better on weed or off, and then stick to it. From this:

I feel that the years of casually getting high has taken a toll on my assertiveness and mental clarity.

It would seem that you need to give up weed. There's they boy's choice and the man's choice. You know which is which without me telling you.

abdada · 2015-08-12T13:36:18+00:00

I judge pot smokers in the same group as video gamers or Netflix addicts.

Basically, I see them as methods to enhance my wealth, not as friends and never as equals.

a_nus · 2015-08-12T14:35:47+00:00

Smoking weed in the long term prevents personal growth. It makes you stick to your comfort zone even more than you would sober. It decreases confidence and mental clarity.

That being said, I have nothing against smoking a few times per month. The trouble starts once it becomes a several times per week thing.

Title	Marijuana and TRP?
Author	btharmony
Upvotes	4
Comments	74
Date	August 12, 2015 1:34 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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