Steroids: worth it for increasing SMV?

JoeJackJohnson · 2016-10-11T20:10:12+00:00

Holy shit this question is loaded, and this is definitely NOT the sub for it. The answer will depend on fitness, age, health, lifestyle, and knowledge. Since you are asking this question to begin with, the answer is NO!!!!

Go ask in the steroid sub or weightroom sub, but be prepared to get your ass chewed.

sunkindonut149 · 2016-10-11T19:22:06+00:00

Are you already a physically fit athlete looking to go to the next level? If so, then running a cycle once in a while wouldn't be that bad if it's not over the top.

I would start by testing your T levels and doing a physiologic dose of TRT before using clen, tren or anything like that.

Are you an average guy who goes to the gym twice a week? I've had results with a caffeine based diet pill when I want to drop 10 lbs quick.

AceBenedict23 · 2016-10-11T21:58:18+00:00

Provided that your diet from calories in/vs out. Macros, BMR, TDEE etc is locked in. Provided that you know what you're doing in the gym, and have a solid foundation which it appears you do...I see no reason why not.

You're a grown man. If you make that decision, obviously do your due diligence. Get your PCT meds Clomid and Nolva on hand before you pin.

Get pre - mid, post bloods done to make sure you know your levels at all times.

Start with 500mg/week Test E/C. If you want, throw in a mild oral like Anavar or Winstrol. 8-10 weeks for the test and the last 4 weeks start the oral at 50mg/day to clean up and sharpen your gains to finish off. I suspect you will see excellent benefits from this.

Edit: Make sure you have Arimidex on hand as well for the test conversion. I came back because I didn't want you to end up with bitch tits on my advice.

blighter711 · 2016-10-11T20:06:14+00:00

30 y/o here. My Test levels are pretty low. I started a short cycle of 6weeks dbol... and test E I will be running for much longers, but probably just cruising on Test E for a long time. I have an AI on hand. Will get my blood checked periodically.

I am 6'4" and about 180 lbs. I am trying to get much bigger.

DenyinTheHolocaust · 2016-10-11T20:17:43+00:00

Nope.

Tiway22 · 2016-10-11T19:45:06+00:00

Nah man just work harder in the gym. Not worth the health risks

BlueWeakness · 2016-10-11T19:59:13+00:00

Age? Bf%? Years lifting? Diet? What's your workout schedule look like? Give me those and I can give you an honest answer if you're ready for a cycle or not.

The__Tren__Train · 2016-10-11T20:19:05+00:00

HardDeterminist · 2016-10-12T00:43:06+00:00

Whatever you do, get pre-cycle bloods.

ilovemagicmush · 2016-10-12T05:39:44+00:00

I've taken steroids for 3 years. The short answer is yes. The long answer is yes but don't start treading into new territory. There are tried&true methods. Stick to those and don't guinea pig yourself or you'll end up like me.

beginner_ · 2016-10-12T05:58:59+00:00

The answer is no. Yes, looks matter. Yes, being more defined, having abs will get you laid more often. And so forth. But 99% of that effect can be achieved through normal lifting. (Assumption: You have normal T levels, you aren't like 60+ or have some other illness).

Taking roids is just looking for the easy way to improve and it will probably be easier but with downsides and risks as you mentioned. Is it worth it? Only you can answer that for yourself. It's not worth it for me.

Still looks are not everything and you can absolutely over-do it as to look ridiculously big. Being defined (muscles + low body fat) is what you want. The bigger part of being a success is your confidence and you social skills. They go hand in hand and good social skills is crucial for a successful professional career (eg networking), much more important than actual skill in your area of employment.

Bulk_king11 · 2016-10-11T20:37:30+00:00

Definitely worth it. Ask people who have done steroids and are very knowledgeable on the topic. Not people who are brainwashed by society.

When you do a cycle. You will have to work and eat twice as much. It's no magic pill. You will need to bust your ass.

Not only that, genetics still play a huge part. A lot of people (mostly women) will say don't do it because it will make you look like a cloud. If everyone you know took steroids, and did it for years. They still would never look like Ronnie Coleman and half the people you associate with taking steroids.

Educate yourself and do a cycle of test. If you ask me. It's worth it. I know a lot of guys who take steroids. Eat like shit and barely work out. And you would never know they took steroids if they didn't tell you. It's no magic pill and takes hard work but a cycle of test doesn't have many health risks and is worth it if you put in the work.

Source. I'm on it now

Bulk_king11 · 2016-10-11T21:59:31+00:00

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Mr_ghostslayer · 2016-10-12T00:47:17+00:00

Bro you see this is a two edged sword, you can take steriods and still not get many girls or you can take steriods and fuck a whole lot. It really depends on your mentality, location and time management. Personally i did it and it was fucken worth it, i already had the red pill attitude just needed alittle bit of the physical, though i have always been an athlete i was never muscluar more skinny ripped until i made the jump. So if you do feel like you arent going where you have nothing to lose because wasted time is worse than wasted opportunity.

A good cycle would be test e, 250 a week for 10 weeks, Aromasin as an Ai, and hcg,clomid and nolva as pct, for all those out there alot my mates have fully recovered after this cycle, just make sure you get everything from a trusted source and your supoort supps are pharma grade you should have no issues.

Gl

Tough_Luv · 2016-10-12T15:08:26+00:00

I swallowed the pill shortly after getting on gear. Every single aspect of my life has dramatically improved.

If you are already in top shape, never miss a workout, have a good diet, intensely dedicated to your body, yes, hop on gear. Else no fucking way, you'll just break your dick.

I was 205 10% bf when I started, 230 < 10 now.

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-10-17T22:57:52+00:00

You dumb idiot. If you need a shortcut to get buffed you already felt the man-test. I know guys on juice and they are the weakest pansies around. I took the hardroad and naturally lifted for about 8 years until I joined the military as an operator. I've never been more confident in my ability.

Those juicers are still stuck in the gym trying to shrink their balls. You're a dumb weakling for even thinking about it.

2comment · 2016-10-11T22:07:59+00:00

I don't take them. But we all have different goals.

Realize there are long-term consequences for anything you put into your body. And if it's just for the short-term, what are you going to do about the gains you're gonna lose, assuming you're at you're natural peak already?

Shit to think about.

asktrpthrow123 · 2016-10-12T00:45:56+00:00

I guess this is personal preference, but if you've been lifting 4 years, shouldn't you already have a solid physique?

At a certain point I think maintaining would be ideal instead of going the whole bodybuilding route and looking like Ronnie Coleman. How would that increase your SMV exactly?

Personally don't see it worth it. Being in shape and near natty limit is a perfect physique to have in my eyes, maintaining that while increasing your SMV through style, career, other hobbies would be more useful at that point I think.

FrameWalker · 2016-10-11T19:58:01+00:00

You're gonna have to decide on your own. I'm be clean for a looong time. I think I'd first hire a trainer and a chef to get my macros and training to 100%. Them in would make sure I could afford all the extra drugs and monitoring.

The thing is that on steroids a beginner gains about 8lbs of muscle in 3 months with 0 lifting. Without steroids youbgain 0 lbs with 0 lifting. With training it becomes 12/4

CumForJesus · 2016-10-11T19:11:19+00:00

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