Why does being such an asshole work?

tankrepititionpug · 2017-10-04T13:12:02+00:00

It goes something like this.

A young girl is mildly attractive and her mother, not wanting her to lose confidence in herself, assures her daily that she's beautiful and can have anything she wants. Her mother is also lucky enough to lock down her provider and spend his money. The young girl sees this and believes it to be normal.

At school all the girls tell her how nice it is that she's getting tits and old enough to wear a bra. The boys flirt with her on a scale worthy of the spectrum because neither sex has developed a good sense of sexual strategy.

High school comes along and now the boys have seen enough porn to know what she's packing under her low cut bra and tight skirt. Her land whale mother and feminist (enlightened!) teachers and all the women in TV shows and movies tell her boys are disgusting things that only think about sex and sex is something to be looked down upon.

However she can't but feel the tingles and the wanting for some warm flesh between her already fattening thighs. Around her is a crowd of loser orbiters begging for her attention since she's unknowingly denied them the only thing that interests them by her own social conditioning. Knowing that they'll do anything to have sex with her she chooses one and now realizes how easy it is to manipulate those with weak minds.

Fast forward to her senior year and she's probably already fucked the jock and accumulated a sizeable following of degenerate cucks whom all the validation and attention she could ever beg for is ready at a moments notice. All she has to do is post one slightly slutty picture and all the joys and girls flock and tell her she's "OMG so gorg❤️" and "we should chill sometime".

She heads into college believing she's God's gift to the earth and everyone would love to be her friend and she's so special she can wave her finger and get whatever she wants. And she does, for a time.

Then comes along that guy. You know, the one who doesn't give a shit about anyone, living life with a nihilistic attitude and doing what he wants. She of course tries to entangle him in her sticky web of validation in which the only way to make it through the sticky maze of traps and into the center is by careful planning and watching your step. She receives all sorts of validation by watching the masses play her game and the power that comes from being able to grant one lucky soul status enough to be allowed close to her. All on her timing and someone else's dime of course. This previously mentioned guy gas already figured out the way past the web. He cuts it down.

He takes a sword to it by refusing to acknowledge it exists and continuing on as if she's just another spider in the forest. He applies the same attitude to the web she's spent years of her life cultivating into a finely tuned work of deception and social minefields.

She's doesn't seem to understand why he isn't enraptured by her wily charms of hair twirling and tummy showing. She doesn't understand why he doesn't give her everything she asks for as soon as she asks. "Am I not special?! Am I not beautiful?! Am I not great?! Why doesn't he like me?! I'm liked by everyone! Wait why am I thinking about him so much?! Oh my god, friend, do I like him?! Is he great?! He must be great! He's so hot! Oh my God why am I thinking so much about him?!! I must love him. I'll do anything to get him."

And now he's won the game.

Renzotl56 · 2017-10-04T12:34:43+00:00

Not being an asshole completely. It's more of being selfish which is what is preached. Doing whatever you want and like and not giving a fuck what anyone thinks. It's considered being an asshole but in reality you're just being real in a world full of fakes.

dammit_redskins · 2017-10-04T16:02:11+00:00

Women often mistake kindness for weakness. Being an asshole leaves no room for misinterpretation.

_the_shape_ · 2017-10-04T12:15:56+00:00

For better or worse, an asshole activates a woman's feelz.

Run of the mill nice guys provide as much excitement as a dentist's waiting room - they don't feed the emotions of a woman like an asshole does.

AstuteBlackMan · 2017-10-04T09:07:05+00:00

We all want what we can't have.

A white girl who's dad told her not to date black guys is gonna start wanting to date black guys.

Essentially. If you tell someone they can't have it or imply they aren't worth it. They'll try and prove you wrong. Which plays into your hands.

Also women are attracted to confidence.

PracticedPrick · 2017-10-04T11:29:00+00:00

You’ve got a lot to learn.

First it’ll surprise you.

Then it’ll confuse you.

Then it’ll depress you.

Then you understand the utter amorality of it and use it to your advantage.

quicklogaccount · 2017-10-04T13:13:30+00:00

It works because the vast majority of chicks never had any contact with a decent balanced guy.
The non selfish assholes (let's face it, they ARE selfish assholes) they met are all manginas. They're DEAD scared of pussies and treat women as immaculate sexless angels because of that.
So when the chick bumps into a guy that treats her like a sexual being she gets crazy, even if he's a selfish idiot.

Be a "nice guy", talk properly, but don't flinch away from escalating for one single second, and you'll get these chicks dripping so much they might end up slipping.

hawkeaglejesus · 2017-10-04T15:03:32+00:00

For the sake of explanation, think of all interactions as just two things; respect and disrespect.

When you show respect to someone, they're usually equal or above you in whatever social hierarchy you're in, whether that's work, family, school, etc.

When you show disrespect to someone, they're usually lower than you in your social hierarchy.

By being an asshole (i.e. disrespectful) you're short circuiting hypergamy.

By disrespecting her you're making her feel as if she's below you, meaning you are above her, meaning her hypergamy tells her "YOU WANT THIS MAN"

It's the same reason being a respectful Beta doesn't work. By being respectful all the time you're subconsciously telling her that you see her as an equal or even above yourself (pedestal) and her hypergamy has no choice but to eliminate you as a desirable partner since you are, according to her feeeelingz, below her in social status.

Women do the same thing. They will disrespect betas and respect alphas as a way to signal to others where they stand within a social hierarchy.

PracticedPrick · 2017-10-04T13:27:17+00:00

An even more cynical analysis:

Women only do nice out of weakness. Then project this onto decent men.

Sometimes when I’m out I employ asshole game as a social experiment and it never fails.

To quote Rollo; “The neg hits you wouldn’t have dreamt of in your AFC days connect with a predictability that is almost depressing”

BestSC86 · 2017-10-04T13:41:01+00:00

Because contrary to most PUA material, alot of women are shitty at scoping out alphas, particularly younger women.

So they try to use cheat codes to ferret out what type of guy they are looking at.....

Those cheat codes work really well at disposing of beta weak ass pussies.....ie....the "nice guy".....who get discarded early in any interaction.

But where it fucks up is that many of those cheat codes are shared by the true alphas and asshole douchebags both....so girls get confused so it often takes some time before they can determine the difference. If you pay attention, most of these type relationships are very short and end in massive shits because girls really don't like being treated permanently in such a manner but they often to jump from asshole to asshole hoping that their cheat code will ultimately find them that alpha dude. So why it works is that being a beta nice guys gets you freaking rejected immediately while being an asshole gets at dudes past that initial stage to her giving the dude a chance...and as that time usually involves at the very least a fucking or two which is what most dudes care about anyway, asshole game is a fast track option.

Alphas are not assholes or even douchey to other people, they are in fact pretty magnanimous toward others but it is much easier for natural betas to project asshole as a short cut than it is to wait to be a true alpha. So, of course, what this means that if you run up on a very loud, douchey asshole, just realize that they are using the shortcut to fast track getting pussy.

I have no problem with that route....dudes gotta do what dudes gotta do. Just know that if you do hook a girl who stays long term putting up with asshole behavior run for the hills because that chick has issues with self esteem and drama.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2017-10-04T14:58:32+00:00

Think of "nice guys" as the male equivalent of "sluts"; they're nice to have around, but you're not going to wife one up.

Triadis3 · 2017-10-05T04:32:35+00:00

Women are really interested in tigers. They're strong, pretty, nice to pet, protectors, have an "I'm the king of all I see" vibe, dangerous, and great status symbols. To keep a tiger, though, it's convenient to train them to walk on a leash, not eat the occasional lamb, piss in the designated area, sleep in a cage, etc. Problem is, tigers don't like being caged or on a leash. This is against their nature. Some do get domesticated, though, even learn tricks. Slowly lose the edge that made them attractive in the first place. They become compliant little kitties. Women then realize all the excitement around owning a tiger has evaporated, because now they're walking down the street with an overgrown neutered housecat. Guess what? Then they begin the search for another tiger. Don't be a pussy. Stay tiger.

DatingCoach111 · 2017-10-04T12:25:36+00:00

Asshole-ism is expression of the self. Suppression (being a nice guy out of fear) is on the other side of the spectrum.

It's not the asshole part that women enjoy. It's the fearlessness that allows for it. We are attracted to and follow those who are not afraid to be who they are.

You can be more expressive by being more compassionate towards yourself. This is done by embracing every feeling in your body as it comes rather than suppressing it, and by embracing every facet of who you are. EFT focuses a lot on moving suppressed energy that's been stuck for years. It's almost magical.

Mudpielol · 2017-10-04T14:05:02+00:00

to keep it simple, the asshole has more chances of survival when shit hits the fan.

DarkInformation10 · 2017-10-04T19:59:20+00:00

It isn't necessarily being an asshole part The gets women wet, but rather the self-confidence, rock-hard frame and sense of mission that the man exhibits. Part of this results in him being labeled an "asshole" because they are not things that are pushed in mainstream media and society (i.e., "he is choosing the gym/studying over buying me gifts? Why can't I have a boyfriend like one of those Hallmark guys!?"). Just as how feminists want to believe that being a fat tub of lard is what will get a man to commit to him, society has gotten men to believe that being an orbiting cuck is what will allow him to bang girls.

HungarianMAGApede · 2017-10-04T10:26:59+00:00

because humans are flawed. Its just the way women are. Yeah it has to do with people who are assholes are often cocky, brave, honest, and interesting, and nice guys often filter what they say and repress things, but in the end I think it comes down to the flawed psychology of women.

ScarletScoundrel · 2017-10-04T13:56:41+00:00

Op, can you give some examples of the behaviors you're using?

EsteraMC · 2017-10-04T21:13:31+00:00

I'm a big asshole, but it does not work for me.

Title	Why does being such an asshole work?
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Date	October 4, 2017 7:12 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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