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Can they not handle the truth?
[–]Kalepsis61 points62 points63 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Because the principles are often misinterpreted as men trying to force the societal re-subjugation of women, which is untrue.
And, let's be honest, a lot of alt-right men with questionable intelligence levels join the community after reading about others' awakening experiences and anger phases, and feel like they've been given a green light to fully unleash their deep-seated misogyny and sexism (as well as other abhorrent political views) into the sub.
Remember that TRP is not about hating women or projecting your personal beliefs onto the world, it's about accepting the reality of the world and adapting your sexual strategy to bring you success in your relationships, however you define them.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is right, and also the type of people who make up the online community tend to be those just discovering TRP, and they often have an angrier/misguided tone to their comments. TRP helped me grow up and put myself first - but it is not about being faux macho, a playboy, misogynist (hate even using that word since it’s lost meaning) etc.
[–]frick-a-frack3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is truth right here. There are so many “white power” types that flock to this sub. In their eyes, the black man and the Jew have been holding back their prowess with women. LOL Nothing screams beta more than pretending your problems will be fixed by screwing with another race.
So, one can’t help connect TRP to those fools.
[–]jackandjill220 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not only that. I think guys underestimate how fanatic the Blue feminist fever is right now. It's very powerful. We'll probably read about this in history books like the red scare. Anita Sarkeesian is broke now & at one time she was in the UN complaining about feminism. Gilette advertisments, GamerGate, MeToo. This is really serious.
[–]i-am-the-prize22 points23 points24 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
a few reasons come to mind. i'm a noob/newb, but i meta think sometimes when I'm exercising, and I was thinking about TRP and thought I'd share some of my notes:
0) TRP: reveals the AF/BB (alpha fucks / beta bucks) in Athol Kay to Rollo to others - the CC and whoring vs. epiphany and wall stages are drivers of womens' behavior, with Cheryl Sanbergs of ther world "proving us right".
1) it reveals the schism between what women say they find attractive (micro: ASD and, macro: what is socially acceptable and in the teen/vogue mags) and what truly turns them on (ie: evolutionary biology, "limbic'ly" per Rollo, et al; muscularity, jawline, alpha behavior and of often aggressive, dominating, penetrating rough and total sexual acts.)
2) TRP: the stats of branch swinging, divorce filings by gender, re-settling post divorce paint a very different picture than pop culture (ie: again Rollo's: "men are the true romatics painted as realists, and women the realists portrayed a the romantics). It reduces hypergamy and opportunism to very objective terms, which is uncomfortable to most "PC" and "if you're critical of women you must be a misogynist" . One thing I took away from the sidebar is: Womenz aren't evil, they're just wired that way. It helped with IDGAF and focusing on what I can control (my self and my feelings, thoughts, efforts and improvement). But that's not enough to soften the blow. The idea that they are actually wired "a specific way" to act "in specific ways" is very non pc and non snowflake and SJW where environment rules all, so we must be saying that they must be evil and have been made evil by the world (ie: patriarchy). I don't think so. I think they evolved to act as they do as it maximized their and their offspring's survival (see warbrides blogpost and chapter, huge eye opener). I don't hate them for it. I just feel I know them (and me) better which is good.
3) TRP: it draws attention to the SMV differences between men and women. women are told and love to quote "their sexual prime is past 40" and such - my wife said the same thing when she turned 43 (?) and joked wondering "if i'd be able to keep up with her as we aged" (yet hours later she rejeted my BP ass for sex, go figure). Check out a book called "a billion wicked thoughts" on internet search analysis of porn and sex on dogpile and other meta search sites. very revealing about both genders, definitely not RP author(s) but the content reinforces all we read/learn about in TRP. Point is, men age better than women, not only b/c we can look better and what makes us sexy isn't tied as tightly to exterior looks only, but also becuase what makes a woman sexy to a man is genetic markers for "being a good breeder" ie: fertility (neck sveltness, perk/ample tits, flat tummy, hip/waist ratio, stand-up ass, thin ankles, nice smile) all of those things can go to shit as they age. We can stay strong, fit, muscular, frame and game-ful as we age. The SMV graph(s) by rollo were eye opening. I wish i had seen them in my early 20's...
4) TRP: reinforces self importance, self respect, self improvement - the "de-pedastalization" of womenz is 'bad' for a woman's power over a man in a relationship.
- so it's a power shift (less power to womenz and older womenz to boot)
- so it's an awakening (NGAF about ho's riding the CC and why you shouldn't get butt hurt at various stages of your life vs. their)
- so it's a reinforcement about living your life, and being the prize. a quote from another post, sorry didn't write down the user i like and saved:
""Practice a "you are the prize" mentality. "Don't be a man who needs a woman, be a man a woman needs." You are the gatekeeper of your commitment, women prove themselves to you, not the other way around. You have something they want, they have something you can get anywhere else."
[–]DrExtra2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wise words my brother
[–]justlafleur1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Saving this comment, fantastic!
[–]RP_COGuy10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It exposes the big lie that has been pushed on modern society. Disney, romantic movies, commercials, etc all support this false reality. The whole nice guy living happily ever after with the girl of his dreams. That false reality enables women to have all the power, ride the CC until the wall, then hook a BB provider to watch the kids while she goes and fucks Chad at the yoga studio. It exposes how women actually work and how men can use that knowledge to get what we want. It's really about pulling back the curtain and revealing how the world works, which takes power away from women. Ultimately, it's all about power and control.
[–]Borsao668 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At no time is a man more persecuted, than should he speak the truth. - Lazarus Long
[–]redpilllogin2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because it goes against the gynocentric narrative of today.
[–]SoulRedemption2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
PC culture
[–]zxcvb78091 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women claiming false rape, buying fake positive pregnancy tests, creating false ultra sounds, using biased family courts to get child support (that is required to be paid but, how it is spent goes unchecked,) women claiming my body my choice (making the man liable if she chooses to keep yet, having no say in whether or not she can/can't abort and subsequently facing financial ruin for 18 years,) is the truth.
It doesn't sell as well as the white picket fence does.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know.. I know this steak doesn't exist. I know when I put it in my mouth; the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy, and delicious. After nine years.. you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss.
People just wanna enjoy their fake steak in peace. I would argue it's the people who bite through, only to feel their teeth clank against each other, who would be motivated to question whether the steak is real in the first place.
[–]bigdudecfc1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's a reason ppl say the truth hurts,breaking the image of someone reality or unplugging them so to speak is a double edged sword. You've taken their world and showed them how things really work and everything they've been told is a lie or at the very least fabricated to a system.
[–]7GreatOne110 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Obviously, no. Remember the sky is blue.
[–]The_Zero_Betas_Plan0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because so much of society has a lot invested in the Blue Pill narrative.
[–]McDrMuffinMan0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because femininity Uber alles.
Rollo talked about this on his 21 convention talk.
[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because outsiders form theur opinions on TRP based on what they hear about it frok others and not from actually reading TRP. Or sometimes someone reads something here, but It's sone down right deranged shit written by a dude in the anger phase or a racist.
There's not much of a filter here, so bad opinions and views get mixed in with good opinions and views.
[–]Granite_Pill0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's a lot of different reasons why it is demonized by different people on different levels/aspects, but fundamentally at the core of the issue: anything which reduces men and women's dependency on the State will be demonized and attacked.
Two books I recommend on this: Anatomy of the State by Murray Rothbard and The Road to Serfdom by F.A. Hayek.
[–]teveza110 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
[–]Differential42010 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The problem TRP has is the facts are getting muddled by legitimately misogynistic people. I would say about 10% - 15% of the posts on TRP subreddit are from alt right, MGTOW, or black pill individuals. Those guys would rather bash women for being who they are rather than accepting it. They are forever stuck in the anger phase. A lot of people see those posts and their initial reaction is probably justified.
[–]CasualtyOfHedonism0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Because it involves pua, which is cringey as fuck 99% of the time. Also it doesn’t benefit alpha males or females to expose hypergamy. Part of the alphas reproductive strategy is to reproduce with a female then leave her or be left so she goes off and pairs up with a beta male who will provide for her alpha child. Remember that in our brains sex is still known as the act of reproduction.
[–]disciplinedFreedom0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Is PUA really cringey? I doubt it. How is approaching women you find attractive cringey?
[–]1rad_dynamic5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
PUA is not about approaching. It's manipulation. TRP does not manipulate women. TRP makes better men, PUA falsely creates high quality men by remembering lines.
That is why you never see questions like "what exactly should I say to this women" getting much praise here. Instead apply the principles and you will know what to say.
[–]CasualtyOfHedonism0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Muy bien gracias
[–]CasualtyOfHedonism2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It’s the community, it reeks of desperation (pua not red pill) it’s comprised of guys who have never been good with women and want to learn quick and easy trick to have sex, mean while red pill is more about building a steady foundation so you can do these things with out “10 EASY LOFE HACKS TO FUCK ANY WOMAN”
[–]disciplinedFreedom0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There is some truth to what you’re saying. But there is a lot of good material from some guys. Models by Manson and Todd V are very red pilled and have a lot of useful material. Just approaching a bunch of women is not necessarily efficient. Knowing how to properly escalate, how to not be boring, when to get physical, push pull, etc are all part of game. I don’t think most of the community is looking for “10 easy hacks”. It takes a lot of time and work to actually become good. I’ve done pick up for a couple months and it’s improved my life in many other areas. I don’t think it’s as bad as you make it out to be
The post is about people’s view of things from the outside. I appreciate the recommendations btw.
What I’m saying if I wouldn’t go around telling girls I’m doing pua
[–]uwotm8910 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kid must think pua is all canned lines and magic tricks lol. I was going to reply to his comment, but I could tell he was a little turd from that sentence alone.
[–]TRPKiddo0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because it evens the playing field, and that wouldn’t be fair.
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