Will jerking off hurt my testosterone and ability to be alpha?

fnordsnord · 2015-04-01T23:46:19+00:00

Ejaculation does not significantly impact your serum (blood) level of testosterone.

Like any other good thing, jacking off can cause you problems if you do too much of it. For example, your hand has both a tighter grip and can move faster than a vagina. You can, if you beat off enough, train yourself to prefer your hand to a girl.

But guys, especially young guys, NEED a sexual outlet. (If I'd tried to go nofap in my teens I'd have ended up humping the furniture.)

So, that said, how much is too much? Eh, it varies. For young guys, two or three times a week, maybe. For older dudes, less.

Better to spend that time and energy finding a willing woman.

What's BAD is porn. It messes with your brain.

midnightbean · 2015-04-02T01:16:30+00:00

From my personal experience, and it's a fucking weird one.. I was trying to fuck things in my room at 7 before I knew what sex was and that girls didn't have dicks too. I just knew I should fuck them.

Now I still have a high libido. Jerking off usually makes me want to jerk off more. When I've fucked a girl I can settle down and go for 2 weeks like an alpha like no other.. but after that I get so damn horny it's like I become a sex werewolf and all my sexy alpha ability turns into creepy perv dude who stares at asses for too long and imagines fucking everything.

That is what screws up my brain. My libido tells me to do whatever I can to fuck. The only real clarity of mind I get is after having real sex, and even better alpha clarity when it's unprotected. Part of that probably being the fears that come along with unprotected sex which gives you incredible abundance mentality and the sexual power from females is taken from them.. which attracts them to you more.

vandaalen · 2015-04-01T21:32:02+00:00

No. It's complete bro-science. As long as you don't jerk your dick to HD-porn 24/7 everything is fine. Ejaculation doesn't lower t-levels significantly.

The constant availability of porn on the internet combined with social withdrawl and mental problems like depression has the ability to lead to porn-addiction and that is what is harmful.

If you just beat your meat once a day to some type of porn you prefer, or even better just using your imagination, it's just part of a healthy sexuaylity. I even rubbed one out on a daily basis when I was living with women, since it's another kind of experience and pleasure to me than having sex.

anoobaccount · 2015-04-01T23:14:37+00:00

In my experience it does. Something about the chemicals in my brain just get all screwed up, and I'm much less alpha than normal. So I never whack it anymore, when I get horny I fuck my girlfriend. Sometimes multiple times in a day, and then I'm good for about a day.

FrankWG · 2015-04-02T10:57:05+00:00

The amount of retardedness in this thread is awesome.

Ejaculating hindering your ability to be "alpha"?
Tits getting tender after cumming because "estrogens"?
Balls and penis "knowing" if you are jerking off or fucking?

You people should teach in med school.

BiggestDickInTheRoom · 2015-04-02T00:11:46+00:00

No. Every study out there basically says that ejaculation doesn't hurt your test. There is one study that showed a spike in test levels 7 days after abstaining, but it wasn't all that high and went back to baseline pretty quick. That study may have been experimental noise too.

Not spanking your monkey will likely do something though: It will make you hornier. If you don't think you are horny enough, then wack off less. If you are plenty horny, then don't worry about it.

Some caveats. If all you do is whack off all day, then you might have a problem. Get a life. I mean that in a kind way. You should get a hobby that doesn't involve fondling your own meat stick. Don't get all religious about how stopping your pud thwacking magically gave you a life. It didn't. Doing shit that didn't involve stroking your salami did. You can still molest the monster as long as you have a life.

Finally, if you are feeling guilty or anxious about making sweet, sweet love to yourself, or watching videos of chicks blowing horses to get yourself off, then there's your problem. It's not the chick with the horse dick down her throat that is the root of your problems, it's the fucking fact that you feel guilty about spewing your load into your dirty gym sock while she did it. Don't get all mad at your bald avenger because he's expending his super powers of penetration on your hairy palm. Just kick back and let the juices flow, take a deep breath and sigh a sigh of sweet release, pat yourself on the back and go wash your hands. Getting all worked up about whether what you have done is "right" or not is what leads to all sorts of mental hangups. Plus it kills the whole purpose of milking the lizard which is to relax and go with the flow.

I once watched "The Matrix Revolutions" and didn't even cum. Now there's a video to feel guilty for watching. Don't listen to the broscience nofaptards. There is nothing admirable about having the most flaccid cock on the internet any more than there is anything admirable about having the biggest tissue pile, and stressing about it is WAY more damaging than anything to be gained.

charlesbukowksi · 2015-04-02T05:10:32+00:00

without question you're going to be full of progesterone, this is the hormone that pregnant women have in leaps and bounds.

oldredder · 2015-04-02T08:21:30+00:00

never.

If orgasm hurt your testosterone that would be self-defeating for evolution because sex is the same thing. Having sex a lot only improves your skill & increases your sex drive and your testicles don't care if it's a vagina or your hand. Can't tell the difference at the hormonal level.

while porn does screw with your brain

It really doesn't. If you can look at ads and not be compelled to buy shit they're selling, you can look at porn and have zero effect on your sex drive or anything else in your life.

ThePedanticF0x · 2015-04-02T09:36:27+00:00

Yes. If you over indulge then of course it will. By over masturbating you unknowingly train yourself neurologically to prefer porn over actual women, and your own sense of touch as opposed to female touch or vaginal stimulation.

There is a definite probability of selective impotence, that is that the male will desire an actual female, but fail to maintain arousal due to being neurologically conditioned to respond to porn and self stimulation. The male will have no clue why he can't keep it up.

The general consensus among the communities of men that discuss the matter of masturbation and its effects is that once every seven days is adequate. If you must masturbate then curb yourself to once a week, fantasize about and ogle as many women as you please but never touch yourself. Besides your once a week indulgence, never use any means of physical self stimulation, only allow external stimulation, that of an actual female, not a digital one.

This is the most effective method used to re-sensitize men to external stimulation. I'm not sure if this is accurate, but I've read that the excess sexual energy raises testosterone levels. Keep in mind that the majority of information on the physiological effects of masturbation is anecdotal, scientific studies on the matter is either scarce or inconclusive, so be realistic.

TheInkerman · 2015-04-02T10:26:24+00:00

What I'm asking is, will jerking off and reducing testosterone kill my game/alpha frame?

Yes and no.

This is purely anecdotal, but I (a 20 something fit-ish dude) tend to feel a whole bunch of downsides after I jack off. I tend to do so when I'm stressed out, so if I'm working on an essay or something, so I might do it a few nights in a row. What happens is I effectively feel myself losing my edge. I'm less competitive, less aware, certainly less lethargic, not as confident, etc. Nofap, at least in my case makes you feel a hell of a lot more alive.

Having said that, I don't go full Nofap. I pick a day of the week and that is my wank day (usually a Sunday so I build up my edge for the weekend). Once a week is fine for me, and I think other guys my age, if you're a teenager, you may need to do it more often.

krystyin · 2015-04-02T15:10:33+00:00

Your mind is the key. Try meditation instead - you will find that time spent in one are was better serviced by training your mind to connect with yourself. "Alpha" is understanding yourself and learning to to submit to your "weak" will - that voice that says take the "easy road". Work out and your mind will tell you to stop, Jerk off and your mind will tell you to go. Learn to control your innerself and share with others your experience. (my weakness is procrastination - which is why I am here now - the stronger me would be setting up plans for the weekend or going out for a run) Good Luck - and next time you think of it - stop and figure out what your "alpha" self would do.

FinallyRed · 2015-04-02T16:05:22+00:00

All I'll say is give abstinence from porn and masturbation a shot. Try to quit and if it's not an addiction, it shouldn't be too difficult right? If it makes you feel better, stick with it. If not, go back to jerking off. You don't need bro-science to tell you how you feel and you don't need guys getting way over-defensive about their sexual habits to validate yours.

aguy01 · 2015-04-02T00:54:44+00:00

NoPorn, jack off to imagination. I remember reading that studies have shown ejaculation effects your bodies ability to utilize test, not the total levels. Everyone knows jacking off before a work out reduces your energy. Limit your cumming to 1-2 times a week, no porn ever.

Title	Will jerking off hurt my testosterone and ability to be alpha?
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