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[–]CompetitionFair7686 82 points83 points84 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
You need to make statements, assume things about her, make observations, share anecdotes, make witty or humorous comments on what she is saying, tease her on what she does and says, mess with her, be kind of a troll or jester, joke around, make open ended questions rather than close ended questions, give your opinions about what you are talking, say how things make you feel, share stories,…
[–]precizs 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
the thing is, i’m pretty good at that in person, but over text my personality just disappears. i feel bad for the girls who text me before meeting me, that’s how bad i am. im talking to another girl right now and i don’t want to go down the same past i do most of the time. im trying to put myself out there, but im worried i’ll be received wrong
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is where a lot of men go wrong.
The phone isn't for getting to know someone. It's for making plans and, once you're in a relationship/have had sex a few times and like each other, it'll become more natural.
But you really don't want to be trying to give away the farm via text. Creates too many problems for you and by not texting excessively, it gives the girl time to think about you. As you can probably tell, a lot of guys do this -- and a lot of guys don't have the kind of success they want.
[–]Oh_Debussy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I suffer from this too.. once it gets to texts I lose my humour and personality. I think it’s a confidence thing and expecting texts to be the same as in person convos but they just can’t
[–]precizs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
lmao, just got dry with another girl because i have no idea what to say. at least i know someone else suffers from this, i just don’t wanna look desperate by continuing a dying conversation
[–]EsCastle 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just ask questions and it should flow from there
[–]simple_human 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What the guy said before, stop trying to get to know them through text. Make plans and an off the cusp joke, that’s it. Get to know them in person, women like confidence, it shows confidence when you’re straight to the point. Although women like texting, so you need to ask yourself, do you want to be one of their girlfriends or do you want to be the guy that takes them home?
[–]dopef123 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That sucks. I'm very good at texting and get upset when girls don't text much. It goes both ways.
[–]RambaRedd 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Remember, the point of texting is to escalate to the date. You really don't have to work so hard here. Eventually when you get to know her more in person, you can do more over text.
[–]Renshato 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
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[+]billoverbeck00 -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
Idk about that we’re talking about losses here, you think Tyson and Muhammad Ali would still be considered the greatest if they lost more fights than they won?
[–]vroomvroomski 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Dating is not boxing, we are trying to get the number 1 prize, not collect as many wins as we can.
I've lost wayyy more fights than I've won, but the fights I have one have been the best experiences of my life, and have given me the confidence to look for my number 1 prize
[–]TheZimboKing 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You do know some people are trying to collect many wins eh
[–]vroomvroomski 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But even then their record doesn't matter, just the total number of wins
[–]TheZimboKing 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Aah I had missed a lot of the context.did a little back reading...you are right
[–]LearnDifferenceBot 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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Are you saying he should try to become one of the greatest technical daters in the world? Think about what you're saying lmao
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"You'll get better over time"
Do you have a when? Bet you don't
[–]norwegiandoggo 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
You try something, you fail, you learn, then you adjust your approach next time based on what you learned. This is the standard model of learning.
Is this model not working for you? If so, where does it go wrong?
[–]precizs 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
it goes wrong when i ask the girl a question and she gives an answer that i can’t play off of. i’ll normally just reply “damn”. i don’t want to look desperate
[–]norwegiandoggo 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
What kind of answer?
You can only learn this stuff in small bits and pieces. You hone your skills over years
[–]precizs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
i’m 16 now so i have time. i’ve always been shy and the only girls i talk to are the ones that hit me up first
[–]JacobSanchez257 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Think about it like this bro. Your young and full of potential. Fuck up now and you’ll be a beast when your 18.
[–]cormacru999 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're only 16 & can't figure out why you're struggling? Most men don't know what they are doing then. lol I lost my virginity at 17.
[–]cormacru999 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Focus on life dude, date when you have something to offer a partner, when you know what you want in life, you shouldn't even be worrying about this so much.
[–]lazercrazy3 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Damn. Ur only 16? Ur life hasn’t even started yet bro.
[–]precizs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
and i already want it to end
[–]lazercrazy3 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t man. Honestly, if I were you I wouldn’t focus on girls. Focus more on your education and career path. It will pay so much dividends in the future.
I thought so...I was like that or worse at 16 too...now at 28, which is almost twice your age, creating interesting conversations and flirting with strangers is second nature.
Your best years are still ahead of you.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
What do you learn tho? There's no way to tell whether you're going in the right direction.
[–]norwegiandoggo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Of course there is. If you get bad results you are going in the wrong direction. If you get good results you're going in the right direction
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
What are good results and bad results?
[–]norwegiandoggo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
That's based on your own dating goals. Reaching your goals is good. Failing to reach your dating goals is bad. Which dating goals you choose is up to you
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How can I tell which flirting is and isn't making someone attracted to me?
[–]norwegiandoggo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I recommend you get dating goals you can measure and observe. You cannot know if someone is attracted to you since that would require you to have the magical ability to read minds.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is some r/selfawarewolves type shit.
I can't read minds. I'm not a mind reader.
I can't just magically tell whether I'm getting closer to getting laid, like you seem to think I can.
Hooking up is good. Not hooking up is bad.
I'm not sure how to tell whether a conversation gets me closer to hooking up.
[–]norwegiandoggo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You usually cannot tell from a conversation. But you can usually tell from things like
Makes sense?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Makes sense!
Except maybe it won't happen. This is how I escalate and I've gotten rejected at each of those steps several times.
And as for hooking up, you just ask someone to come over, I'm sure?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop caring. Stop chasing.
[–]ricagraca 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lost 20 headaches, good job
[–]cormacru999 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its weird that you know what you're doing wrong but somehow aren't sure what to do. Stop doing the things you clearly know isn't working. Secondly, start looking at what women say they are looking for, what they don't like, etc. Women all over the internet write blogs, essays, articles, post videos, etc. Pay attention to that & adopt good practices.
[–]precizs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
thanks
[–]womenareuseless69 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Game isn’t real….. stop believing in this propaganda bullshit.
[–]Antique_Fish8518 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
precizs you are targeting the wrong group of girls then
[–]Contango6969 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Good. Shoot for 100 in the next few months
i’m probably going to kill myself by then
[–]thomasvector 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This won't apply to a lot of people because everyone's body is different, but I find smoking weed before talking helps lol, as long as you don't get too high. Women get bored if they don't feel you're interested and women have way more choices than men due to guys being more thirstier a lot of the time. It takes some time to be able to read the room, but you'll get there.
[–]precizs 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i get super paranoid and ask them weird shit when i’m high, lol
[–]thomasvector 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol, well then scratch that idea.
[–]jayfoxpox 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
After a decent text Convo I like to move it to a phone conversation, keep it chill and entertaining. That has worked quite well where I got invited straight to their home! Maybe I got lucky but it worked 3 times with them being the ones to intiate the invite also . Phone conversation provide the opportunity to create a connection with very low investment from both sides . If I can't get a good conversation going then I probably wouldn't want to date them anyways.
that’s really smart m, i’ll try that with the girl i’m talking to now
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[–]precizs 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i’m not using a dating app though, just snapchat and instagram. so i must be doing something right for these girls to hmu
[–]SantoSturmio 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
@OP you're only 16 you got enough time to learn so keep it calm
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[–]SantoSturmio 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]BettyBuilds 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Really, you never owned the 20 girls so you could not loose them. 🤷🏻♀️
Sucks though. I have been single for 6 months and only dated five times. Only one person I've met more than twice and it's just sex, nothing serious.
It is not a matter of numbers, it is meeting the right person. However cliché it is, join a club with folks who have similar interests and values. If not finding a partner, you'll at least have fun.
i wish i could, i just don’t have the time. if you include school and job, i work 50 hour work weeks. i’m physically and mentally drained constantly, i have little time to put myself out there.
[–]RambaRedd 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Gotta work on your banter man. Think about some of the coolest men you know in real life and in media and emulate their techniques. You shouldn't be interrogating women, asking more than 2 questions at a time. Actually listen to what she's saying and try to honestly relate to her. If you can't, say that too. And sprinkle in some jokes and flirtation.
At least you're getting #s and choosing signals from women. Most men aren't even getting that believe it or not
i do need to stop asking a lot of questions, which i’m doing with the girl i’m talking to currently, but i want her to like me for me, not because i imitate someone she would like if that makes sense
Definitely man. I'm not saying to 100% become these people. What I'm saying is to emulate their styles of speech. Trying to be someone else is not the same as emulating their techniques. Artists do it all the time and make hits
[–]daddysgotanew 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There’s no such thing as “game”
You lost 20 women because they all had better options than you
Hard truth
[–]precizs -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
well looks like i give up then.
[–]daddysgotanew 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t give up but realize as a non-Chad your results are going to be abysmal. You’ll have to contact 100 women just to get a 6 that will have sex with you.
Haha...
It's not like girls instantly know who is better than who.
Game is how you display value and that matters. How much it matters is what is up for debate.
[–]humptyone 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You might try talking to a friend. Get her thoughts. Theres not really any place to LEARN GAME . I e heard from girls that most guys dont pay attention in them. The guys wants the attention, just are slow returning it
[–]PondScum420 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sometimes “giving up” is the best thing you can do because then you stop “trying” to have game and act more natural
Read books, watch a wide variety of movies (repeat and quote snarky remarks, come-backs, exaggerations etc) and learn to banter, even with boys.
Above all, go out and learn and do shit. The more you expose yourself to the world, the more you can talk about interestingly. And I bet you are still young, so you will get good with age.
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