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yaimworkingonit · 2021-09-09T21:57:15+00:00

99.99% of the population don't study game. They don't read books, watch videos and post on forums and yet the world is still fucking. You've got information overload. My advice is ditch the books. Join a new sports club, a cooking class, a local public speaking group and start talking to people. Talk to the old lady at the checkout. Talk to your fellow students and you will figure this out. You may have read some conflicting information but there are some hard rules here. Don't seek validation. Don't let others dictate your happiness or success. Go your own way. Be your own man. Don't be a push over. Work on your body language. Be a fun person to be around. People like fun and kind people.

earsurgery9 · 2021-09-09T22:51:30+00:00

take a deep breath.

You're right in that there is a tonne of conflicting info. All of the dudes who write the books disagree with each other, as you have noticed .

That's because 'game' is basically bro science. It's just random dudes trying to market their own theories. Different things will work for different people because girls aren't robots. A handsome guy the same age as the girl might 'neg' her and then sleep with her and think it was the neg that done it when in fact he was just her type. A guy who wasn't her type and 3 decades older running the same lines would still get rejected. Everyones little theories are what has seemingly helped THEM.

In a way you need to be your own coach.

But you also need to realise that no matter how 'good' you are, it's just a numbers game and your 'game' is only going to very marginally effect your results.

Why do you think people are still getting laid everyday and most guys have never heard of 'game'. It just happens. Guys meet girls. If she's attracted to him (his looks and his vibe etc) then it just happens.

Your only goal really should be to approach lots of girls. Shoot your shot. Don't worry so much about method. Know that basically WHATEVER you do and say (within normal social etiquette) it is 'correct' game in at least one 'experts' eyes! (you could definitely find a PUA book that advocates the 'game' you just ran)

Guys tend to only get worse once they learn about qualification, disqualification, cold reads, negs, Pushpull, DHV lines etc etc. Coaches and stuff overcomplicate it because they need you to keep coming back for their courses, books and bootcamps. None of these guys are cassanovas who can bang who they want. They are lying to you. Their actual 'success rate' is very similar to any other guy on the street (IF he had the balls to actually approach girls)

This isn't black magic. It's just demonstrating that you aren't weird, can be fun, and are interested in the girl you are speaking too. Almost everything in PUA books are things that all normal people already know! But they read this stuff and then get in their head and overcompliacte it all and they go backwards.

MagnusRoundstone · 2021-09-09T21:09:19+00:00

You are way overthinking things. Be cool, be interested, talk to women, ask out anyone you are attracted to.

dreameater42 · 2021-09-10T00:13:15+00:00

the advice in here varies because some guys are trying to go for the guiness world record of most lays in a single day, while others just want to find a girlfriend. if you want the latter, better to just be yourself. if you dont meet many women because you dont go out, use dating apps.

keytarna · 2021-09-09T23:47:31+00:00

You’re drowning in information bro. Ditch the books, Reddit advice posts, YouTube game guides and whatever else and just get out there. Talk to women at work or in the coffee shop or wherever else. Just keep it causal and don’t overthink it. The best way to learn to talk to women is by practical experience and trial and error. You’ll figure it out. But step 1 - get the hell off this sub. It’s a goldmine of useless information that will only worsen you’re information overload.

kuramauzumaki3c · 2021-09-09T21:14:11+00:00

Bro you trynna do all of them at once, dice rn the situation and use what you think will work. If she is timid take it easy. If she is wild and spontaneous then try to match her. If it doesn't click move on. That simple, lying about who you are will make you miserable for life. Be your best and strive to better and you will find those who like you for who you are. Also hygiene and they way you speak can be a turnoff for some people but if that's preference which we all are entitled to. Do what you find attractive and soon you will meet people who share those criteria and interests

Calamity__Bane · 2021-09-09T23:09:46+00:00

The central issue you're running into is that you're stuck in the mindset of seduction being a science, when it's more like an art. All of this conflicting information resolves itself when you have enough experience to notice what advice applies to what situations, and there's no shortcut for that. You'll have to just go out and try things until you find an interpretation that works for your situation. Can't learn game out of a book.

Jackedhampster · 2021-09-10T03:22:01+00:00

How do u expect to get a girl if you never text them ? You’d be surprised how being straightforward is the only way

shaggy2gay · 2021-09-10T07:22:50+00:00

Look anyone who tries to boil game down to simple bromides doesn't know what they're talking about. Game advice is confusing because game is confusing, because women are confusing. You're wondering how to build a space shuttle in your back yard and you're pissed off that you have to learn a bunch of shit to do it. I relate, I share your frustration. There's no way out but through.

My advice is: ignore the opinions of almost everyone who hasn't staked their public reputation on teaching game. Of the remainder, assume that 75% of them are hacks and/or scammers. Find a couple of credible seeming guys to learn from and execute their advice during actual, real-world cold approaches. At enormous volume. Test and reflect.

This "just join a racquetball club and talk to elderly cashiers and the divine light of Pickup Truth will shine upon you" horseshit will get you nowhere.

dirag06 · 2021-09-10T09:40:20+00:00

Just be yourself bro

AelfredRex · 2021-09-10T11:26:03+00:00

I'll say this over and over and over.... get out there, dig on the ladies, and see who digs you back. That's all that you got to know. Just look for the women that are eyeing you up and smile at them. Don't try to force things, just let the adventure happen.

All these methods and theories and systems just make something that's incredibly simple far too complicated in order to make the writer sound clever, when they're obviously not. PUA is a joke. It's just collecting rejections, not making real connections.

RedEyeBlackEye1 · 2021-09-10T16:01:33+00:00

YOU DO THESE STEPS AND YOU SHOULD HAVE MORE HXES THWN EVER SHOWING INTEREST IN YOU, OP.

1) look good, be groomed, be on point with your outfit(no hobo shxt). Stubble, short beard, goatee, or chinstrap are all great Facial hair styles that get females attracted. Make sure it's trimmed to 4-6mm(sweet spot for aesthetics and attraction) and edge up the lines.

2) fix your posture and walk with masculine swagger. You should exude quiet, sexy, masculine confidence THAT DOESNT NEED TO GAF.

3) give her strong eye contact, smirk, and confidently flirt. WHEN SHE IS SHOWING RECEPTIVENESS...KINO HER.

4) MAKE SURE YOU LEAD ANY INTERACTION WITH YOUR CHARISMA...ALWAYS bc looks are good ONLY to get your foot in the door.

Good luck, homie

Dodechaedron · 2021-09-09T22:54:19+00:00

Women want to have sex with the big bad boy and have a family with the sweet hard working daddy. The full prize is that the latter fathers the children of the former. Their archetypal fantasy (endlessly exploited by the female-oriented erotic novels and movies) is to meet the dark & dangerous outlaw (oozing with testosterone), get ravished but make him fall in love with her and turn him into a sweet husband. All of these instincts happen periodically in a sequence cyclically ruled by the ovulation. The successful seducers exploit these patterns by adapting their persona to the moods of the day. This is, in a nutshell, the secret code to understand the apparently incomprehensible female psyche.

TheTruth221 · 2021-09-09T22:32:34+00:00

talk to them

s7612f · 2021-09-10T00:12:03+00:00

depends on the target. build everything you do around them (eg stepping away when necessary etcetc..), rather than following vague advice from the internet. ‘the art of seduction’ is a good start.

UnPoquitoSuerte · 2021-09-11T03:43:32+00:00

You need a base hit bro.

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