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[–]PositiveDude 115 points116 points117 points 15 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
"Everyone wonders how you judge them as much as you wonder how they judge you. They are so busy hoping they get your approval that they have no time to think about you in a bad way. They are no different."
[–]hanus_man33 24 points25 points26 points 15 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Upvote for quoting some reddit guy. And because it's true.
[–]ehbeeseedee32 points 15 years ago* [recovered] (16 children) | Copy Link
Not really. It's a sweeping overgeneralization that's not true at all because even if we are not consciously forming opinions of others, we are doing it subconsciously.
[–]PositiveDude 24 points25 points26 points 15 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
The nice thing about these quotes isn't that they are true (because they are not), it's that you remember them well as they make a good impression. They lead you in the right direction.
Your therapist isn't right either, because unless you are living alone in a forest it'll most probably be of somewhat great importance what others think of you. But that doesn't matter. The feeling it gives you matters, the feeling that tells you to just do what the heck you want.
/edit: BTW, I didn't downvote you, I don't downvote people.
[–]ehbeeseedee9 points 15 years ago* [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link
I don't mind the downvote, but you are right. Both sides are situational.
[–]PositiveDude 6 points7 points8 points 15 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
If only we could have a drink now. Why are you seeing a therapist anyway?
[–]The_Decoy 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have a feeling more than a few of us are currently in therapy. This sub-reddit is very helpful for confidence building techniques.
[–]villagePUA 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very true. I've found that seddit is an excellent complement to therapy.
[–]ehbeeseedee2 points 15 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
A better question is, why didn't I find a therapist before?
Everyone has problems. Everyone has psychological disorders. They might not be full-blown disorders - they could be lighter and smaller, but still symptoms of a disorder or a case that hasn't evolved into one yet. With that in mind, I think that everyone should have a therapist.
[–]D3l7a3ch0 19 points20 points21 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
nice try, therapist
[–]failedkarmawhore 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This opinion scares me.
I have therapists. They're friends I trust to push me on track when I go off the rails or to hear my problems and tell me they're crap.
[–]ehbeeseedee1 points 15 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
My opinion might scare you but it's absolutely true. What should be more scary is knowing that everyone on this planet holds some sort of psychological disorder. These people are the ones building our planet.
[–]failedkarmawhore 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jeez, I think you're a complete hypercondriac. Of course they do, because for the last forever psychology has been trying to classify humans and their behaviour. It's only when these people let their slight "disorder" rule them that anything starts to matter.
[–]Lead ModeratorThrowawayPUA 4 points5 points6 points 15 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, the original form of the quote "What you think of me is none of my business" is meant in the most literal sense. When you care so much about what people think of you, your thinking gets distorted. You start doing things because you think you can manipulate peoples' perceptions, rather than because you want to do them. You become inauthentic and non-congruent. And people start to dislike you just for that. Oops!
[–]PositiveDude 2 points3 points4 points 15 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, a friend (?) of mine is like that. Sad thing is that sometimes it works out for him, probably because he's a alpha to some people, uses seduct. techniques and is some kind of "interesting mistery" to some girls. Totally manipulative though, and gets his fair share of haters.
[–]SloppyJoMo -2 points-1 points0 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm on the edge of my seat here dude, is this guy a friend or not?!
Also, I'm not sure I understand the "seduct." abbreviation. Seems kinda unnecess.
[–]mrnothere 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you seem like kinda an assh.
[–]PositiveDude 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was looking for a good word and had a brainfart.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like the quote due to the fact that their opinions of you are their own secrets. You do not have a right to someone's secret unless they tell you. And because the golden rule dictates that I shouldn't try to find out others secrets(I don't want people knowing my secrets) I am obligated to respect their privacy.
TLDR: I'ts dickish to care about what others think of you because you are invading their privacy.
[–]mdoddr 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it can't be true because: People have formed opinions of others.
[–]just_some_redditor 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, I didn't say it...
[–]Lead ModeratorThrowawayPUA 4 points5 points6 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Another version of that, as seen on a bumper sticker:
"Don't worry about what people think. They seldom do."
[–]quartermann 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True if the people involved have low self esteem. But who are we kidding? Most people have a low self esteem!!
[–]Gazeekoo 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Everyone doesn't wonder how I judge them.
They might wonder how others judge them, but how I judge them? I'm pretty sure very very few people have ever wondered that.
[–]Edgar_Allan_Rich 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow, I really couldn't disagree more. I would, in fact, say its the exact opposite.
In my experience everyone is so busy judging that they forget that others are judging them. This is especially true when being approached by strangers.
Am I fucked in the head?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
everyone is so busy judging that they forget that others are judging them
What I believe is that other people are judging you on how their behavior towards you reflects on them. In a social hierarchy they have to know your position as well as their own. But they are primarily concerned with maintaining or improving their own status.
It is a complex thing but people judge others in order to further their own goals. They aren't thinking about you as much as they are thinking about how you affect them. When someone judges you poorly, what they really are thinking is "he makes me look bad" and not so much "he is bad".
[–]Edgar_Allan_Rich 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You just blew my mind.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Also if you're talking to strangers, any "negative" aspects people might think of you will either change or become completely irrelevant if you don't bring any notice to it.
[–]The_Decoy 17 points18 points19 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My theory is we get so hung up on how other people perceive us we loose our ability to be naturally outgoing. Our actions become unnatural and forced. Making genuine connection difficult. Really highlights the importance of inner game.
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[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 15 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
They already do. They just don't know it yet.
[–]GoodMusicTaste 9 points10 points11 points 15 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like something my mom would say
[–]ehbeeseedee7 points 15 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
Does that make it any less true?
[–]GoodMusicTaste 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You got a point.
Still, a oneliner doesn't make me care less about what others are thinking about me. In my mind, it's still REALLY important. Something fundamental has got to change before I'll stop caring.
[–]ehbeeseedee2 points 15 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I know exactly what you mean. You have to be really grounded in your belief before you can fully accept it.
[–]GoodMusicTaste 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I got a friend who lost literally everything and started from scratch. He's the only one who I know that basically doesn't give a shit whatsoever, and he's awesome. I think something similar has to happen to me. I have to know that it's possible "get up" from failing, and that's what I'm missing, because I've never really failed. I don't want to fail, though. I'm doing pretty good, and I want to continue doing that.
Man, I got to sort my shit out.
It makes it less true if its my mom. She is the most unrealistically positive person ever.
[–]nuckingFutz 2 points3 points4 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
also, chloroform and stockholm syndrome.
[–]edubation 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or they suck, and fuck them.
[–]Lead ModeratorThrowawayPUA 5 points6 points7 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Actually, he kind of mangled that quote. It's rather famous in the new age world, it's the title of a book by new age preacher Terry Cole Whittaker, "What You Think of Me is None of My Business." I like this book and I have the highest respect for Terry Cole Whittaker.
[–]ehbeeseedee2 points 15 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
she*
EDIT yes I #closed her, haha :)
[–]Lead ModeratorThrowawayPUA 6 points7 points8 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, I suppose I should mention that Terry Cole was a woman. She was notorious because at the height of her popularity in the late 80s, as her new age evangelism TV show was starting to break nationwide, she abandoned everything and ran off to Tahiti with a guy like 25 years younger than her.
I have the highest respect for Terry Cole Whittaker.
[–]fowleryo 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most people are so self conscious that they're incapable of dealing with criticism. It's not that we're worried about what others think for the sake of wanting to know... we're worried that they'll react to something we say or do and we won't be able to handle it.
[–]noughtagroos 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your therapist is right. We all have the inalienable right to form misconceptions about you. And we will, whether we want to or not, if we bother to think about you at all.
At first I was tempted to offer a few gems of wisdom, i.e., cliches, that I'd heard over the years. On reflection, let me offer this instead:
Let's assume for a moment that we all get our 15 minutes of fame. What if yours are the wrong 15 minutes?
Maybe 15 minutes that you spent on the can; or fapping; or losing your cool with a waitress and making an uncharacteristic, misogynist and/or racist comment to her; or having a colonoscopy; or screwing up your grandma's recipe for red velvet cake and causing all the kids at your son's birthday party to blow velvety chunks across the floor; or saying confession that one time when you finally came clean about your sexual experimentation in college; or choking in a little league pennant game and striking out every time at bat; or that time you had a huge pimple on your dick and were scared shitless that it was either the clap (even though you were still a virgin) or a new form of dick cancer with oozing tumors that cling to the side of your shaft like giant custard dumpling dingleberries.
This could happen to any one of us (except for the parts that could only happen to men). The point is, you can't control what people think of you. The best PR person in the world couldn't control it; at best, they might improve your reputation plus or minus 10 percent.
So why waste any energy worrying about it? Be who you were meant to be; be true to yourself. Your loved ones will know whether or not you're getting it done--though not even all of them, and none of them all of the time.
So do it right for your own sake. And if you watch your hygiene, no one will ever know you had zits on your dick.
[–]movenomore 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People are way too busy worrying about themselves to be worrying about whether or not you are worrying about whether they are worrying about if you try.
[–]howdoiupvote 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very interesting, never thought of it like that before.
[–]Kendar 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My dad got this quote at a therapist office, when I was a kid. He said it to me and it has stuck with my ever since.
[–]GanjaNinjah 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why can't I read Therapist right..... I keep thinking "The rapist".
Maybe all the weed and karate?
[–]itsokaytryagain212 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow! This is great. Seriously, I'm going to be keeping this in the back of my mind from now on.
[–]Edgar_Allan_Rich 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thats a life-changing concept right there.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I disagree with this. If we are talking about friends and colleagues. This strikes promoting lying and dishonesty.
[–]JayTS 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This strikes promoting lying and dishonesty.
Only if the only thing keeping you from lying is what other people think of you.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I heard this from Sean Stephenson in one of David DeAngelo's videos
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I thought this sounded familiar (particularly vis a vis seduction)! I think it was more like "What other people think of you is none of your goddamn business."
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