Contents
- Preface/General Info
- High School Years
- College Years
- Post breakups
- Seduction
Preface:
I wanted to give back to the community some things that I have learned from my experiences growing up. I hope newbies in seddit can learn from my mistakes and the more advanced people here can relate with my successes. This post will have a wide range of things to offer and I hope there is something everyone can take away from my experiences.
General Info About myself:
- Turning 23 YO at end of month
- White
- 6’1, 191 lbs (been lifting for 6 years), good looking
- Work in technology consulting role making 75k + ~15-20k bonus in a city
- I’ve always wanted the best for myself, besides losing my virginity the women I’ve been with are HB7+.
High school years:
I grew up in affluent area in NE and went to all guys high school, I was raised mostly by my Mom. My Dad was never home due to work. I never had any trouble getting anything I really wanted besides women in my starting high school years. I grew up as a popular kid in a good social circle but was always known as the “quiet” and “shy” kid. I played a lot of video games, mostly online with friends in my high school group though. I also played some sports at a fairly high level and was considered by some D3 schools to pursue those sports so I was generally athletic and in good shape. Despite having success in most things, I still felt insecure about myself because I wasn’t getting any women. In comes my best friends Dad at the time who was this single, 45 YO, running a successful business and dating smokeshows only a couple years older than us. He gets me and my friend in the gym. Luckily I had my friend to help keep me motivated, having the male camaraderie to help support me in a positive way I found to be important. As a result of this I was always in a lot better shape than people my age heading into my college years. I noticed significant boosts to my confidence and respect during this time as well.
Key Takeaways from this:
- Grew up in a female oriented household, naturally trained to be a “provider” type
- Lifting was important to helping me build confidence and social status
- Having a like minded male support structure is something that can help build you up in many different aspects of your life
College years:
Freshman Year/Sophomore year:
I end up leaving the north east and going to college in the south. Here I start to flourish a bit and come into my own. I end up joining a top fraternity. I would say I got laid relatively infrequently that year, between school and pledging I was very busy. Sophomore year begins and I spend the first semester being a classic frat douche(this was the part of my college career where I fucked the most girls), looking retrospectively at this fact it makes a lot of sense to me now(treat girls like classic frat douche would, display myself as higher value to them, I get laid). Then towards the end of the year I end up having this weird relationship with a girl named Kathy. I developed oneitis for this girl Kathy, I constantly wanted to be around her and to make her happy. I was also talking to two other girls on the side, but I really wanted to be exclusive with Kathy. Although I wanted that Kathy didn’t and she would go around hooking up with/having sex with other dudes every once and awhile and I would find myself hurt and trying to please her more. She always said she that is like a “guy” and wouldn’t want to settle down(women like and enjoy sex, especially during these low stress college years where they are figuring out their life). Now despite how angry and frustrated Kathy made me, those two other girls I was “talking to” on the side who I treated like garbage wanted my attention even that much more. Going out of there way a lot to invite me over or send me flirty texts/snapchats, at the time this didn’t make sense to me. I wanted Kathy to treat me the way these other two girls were treating me. Knowing what I know now it makes sense. Kathy ended up transferring. I spent my summer slaving away at an internship in a city as a 19 YO, had sex with a couple girls that summer.
Key takeaways from this:
- I “suffocated” Kathy’s attraction to me due my constant neediness of being around her/talking to her
- Girls are sexual creatures and enjoy sex
- If your investment in a women < theirs in you, you then display a higher value, their attraction for you increases
- Social status is important. I had many options of women at the time due to being in a top fraternity
- Multiple options is important. One of the things Kathy liked so much about me was the fact other girls found me attractive
Junior year:
I end up meeting a girl who transfers to my school named Lauren. Lauren and I hit it off immediately and not long after that we end up dating. After the honeymoon stage and school year ends attraction began to dwindle. Once that attraction started to dwindle, like it did with Kathy, I only became more invested. I tried to save the relationship and took Lauren on a trip to Europe once my summer internship ended. The trip was amazing, we told each other we loved each other for the first time and generally had an awesome time. I thought I had saved the relationship. We get back and I keep up my suffocating ways constantly am trying to have these boring text conversations with her and talking to her all the time. She breaks up with me two weeks later.
Key takeaways from this:
- More investment on your part = more neediness = less attraction
- You can’t save a relationship, she’s either attracted to you or she’s not
- If you give a girl exactly what you think she would wants(Europe trip, saying I love you), she has nothing to work for anymore. “You put someone on a pedestal they have no choice but to look down on you”
- Circumstances change, my neediness increased once we left school. Going from seeing someone everyday in a low stress environment for a relationship i.e college...to not at all, this puts a strain on the relationship
Senior year:
Pissed off and ready to make Lauren regret what she had done by breaking up with me I go into senior adopting the frat douche mindset I had in the beginning of sophomore year. I end up fucking a good amount of girls. I eventually meet this girl named Fran though. Fran was known as one of the hottest girls at my university. She was also dubbed a “good girl”, never going out, good grades, leader in her sorority, I developed oneitis once again. One thing to note before I get into how I handled this relationship an observation I am now making is the most I got laid in that relationship was after I booked a trip to Mexico with my fraternity and without her, and the week before I left. Like Lauren, after our “honeymoon phase” and we graduated attraction began to dwindle once again. She was going to grad school and I was starting work. Our lives already heading in different directions. We had frequently talked about our future with one another and how we were going to make it work. Everything seemed perfect, I would have a well paying job as would she once she finished grad school. I thought she was “the one”. I once again tried to save this dwindling attraction through calling her all the time, sending flowers, exc. This only made her feel like I was suffocating her more. The writing was on the wall, a couple months into the summer she breaks up with me.
Key takeaways from this:
- Same points I made above
- Give women space, whether they are your wife, girlfriend, ONS or whatever. Invest that time and effort you planned on putting into them back into yourself. This will only make them like/invest in you more. “Have you ever loved someone so much that you would do anything for them, make that person yourself”
- The “abundance mentality” I had in the beginning of senior year was low-stress, high reward. I was able to bang a lot of girls while at the same time have time for other things I found important to me.
- I haven’t mentioned it in the stories here so far, but during my relationships my male friendships suffered. This stems from over-investment once again. Keep them around and do interesting things with them. The most sex I had in that relationship was right after I booked Mexico spring break trip with them and the week before I left. She felt like she needed to prove herself and made sure I got my “share” of sex before leaving her.
- Don’t get down on yourself. You build strength through your failures. You can let them slowly eat at you and fall into the same traps again, or choose to make yourself better and make sure that next time you are better prepared for what’s to come. This is for everything, not just women.
- Circumstances change again, me starting my job and her starting grad school, low stress high reward environment in college seeing each other everyday changes to high stress low reward environment putting a strain on the relationship, causing attraction to dwindle.
Post break-ups
After the break ups and then looking at my experiences from a more analytical perspective I immediately have adopted the “abundance mentality”. I was able to look at how it has worked for me in past and apply it to my life today. I have been spinning anywhere between 3-7 women at a time for the past couple months and I want to tell you some things I have learned so far, and what has worked for me.
Seduction:
Women want men who are wanted by other women:
This comes from just the other day. After work I went out to the pool my apartment has to read a little bit. It was a quiet day and there were two girls there HB8,HB7. HB8 is sitting by the pool and ends up getting in. I go up to her and strike up a conversation, ends up she was laid off her from her job that week.She ends up telling me she’s 29 and asks me how I old I am. I say 22 and she tells me she’s too old for me. I just tell her that she’s not the first person who’s told me that. The conversation continues and it’s flowing well and she comes at me again with another shit test asking me what I want to do when I grow up? I playfully said sit by the pool unemployed and she loved it. She had to go see her friend but ended up getting her number and I’m seeing her for drinks this weekend. HB7 is watching me clearly hit on this girl and get her number. After reading some more I decide I am done for the day and gather my things and head towards the elevator. HB7 follows me shortly behind. She approaches me by the elevator and we get into a quick conversation and she ends up asking me for my number. We are also getting drinks next week.
Key takeaways:
- Age doesn’t matter, women want to be with men they find attractive
- Women will want to belittle you to test how you react, brush it off if you can and be playful about it
- If women find you attractive they will want to “steal” you from other women. This applies not only in this situation but also at clubs/bars too. Talking to hotter girls = higher value.
Eye-contact/body language:
Holding eye contact makes your interactions with people much more personalized. The things you say also come across as much more powerful, and it definitely increases sexual tension. I would also suggest reading “What every Body is saying” by Joe Navaro and what various signs you're giving off non verbally mean. Be aware of your own body language as well as the other persons in order to drive your interactions accordingly and help them stay within your frame.
Key takeaways:
- This stuff is very important. Not just with women but also with work and general day to day things. Learn about it and try to understand it
- Once you understand it you can more easily “read” people, this is a skill that takes experience and practice, I don’t think there are any “short cuts” here.
“I’m not having sex with you tonight”
I love hearing this. Almost every time I’ve heard this I end up having sex that night. When they say this I know they are thinking about having sex with me and envisioning what it’ll be like in your head. Just brush this off and keep the conversation going or playfully challenge her with something like “who said you were going to get that lucky anyways?”. If she’s saying this sex is probably in your near future even if its not “tonight”.
Key takeaways
- Don’t take lines like this as rejection, they are a good thing
- Keep the conversation playful, sexual, and fun
- Make sure you are having fun yourself, self-amusement
Women like being played with emotionally
This is an example from the other night my HB9 work friend(who’s friends I’ve fucked...this comes in later and links to an earlier point). We talked for about three hours about sex and relationships. A lot of the talk was about her manipulative boyfriend. Every minute new stories and truths kept coming out over and over again which was hilarious. This guy literally treats her like an absolute piece of garbage...banging other girls on the side while at the same time emotionally manipulating her and tell her that he loves her and is going to marry her and all this shit. She then tells me that despite how much she hates him and all this stuff they had sex the other day. She was also constantly talking about getting laid and how she was going to go out and rock some guys world and she needs to find a good lay to bounce back from the ex-boyfriend. While this was happening she had a 3-4 guys texting her at once. I ask(although I already knew the answer) why doesn’t she bang one of those guys. She responds that they are all too nice and she looks at them as good friends and she just wants to get fucked. Eventually it’s getting late and I was going to go home. I’ve fucked some of her friends and her friends talk about the sex they’ve had with me, so she knows I have toys. She brings this up and tells her that she now wants me to fuck her and tie her down and dominate her. I tell her no and leave. She texted me the next morning that she’s never felt so powerless in her life being denied sex like that.
Key takeaways:
- Girls like an emotional roller coaster, the guy in the example above may be “extreme” with the marriage talk and such but the same applies nonetheless. Be the drama of the women you want to fuck.
- Social circle game is good. If you have sex with a girl, she’s going to tell your friends about it. If you’re good at sex you can use that to your advantage to have more sex within that friend group as well as the girls you’ve already fucked.
- One of women's greatest source of power = their vagina. Take this power away and watch them have no idea what to do with themselves.
Rejection now does not mean rejection later
Within the past two months alone I have been rejected by a women via head turn three times when going in for a kiss. One of them was a straight up rejection. One of them I ended up hooking up with later. Then the last one I ended up banging the same night. Every time though I brushed it off and kept the conversation fun, flirty, natural. Don’t let a simple rejection like that be the end all be all.
Key takeaways
- The action of a women cannot be directly controlled by you. How you react to that action can be though and will either generate or kill attraction
- Be a man and go after what you want. If you get rejected pick yourself up, become better and try again.
- Don’t apologize, keep the conversation going
Just have fun
I like to think it’s called game because it’s supposed to be fun. Gaming women and getting rejected can lead to some hilarious stories that you can look back on and laugh at if you don’t take it too seriously. It can also lead you down some wild paths in regards to sex and your relationships that lead to stories just as exciting and hilarious in nature. When you’re having fun and enjoying yourself other people notice and it shines through into the rest of your life. Also make sure to never lose sight of the bigger picture which is developing yourself, the women will come naturally then..
Thanks:
Thanks for reading, I know it’s a lot and I have more stuff I’ll eventually bring together into another post.
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