How does seduction change when you transition into your 30s?

DrBalance · 2018-10-26T22:00:42+00:00

Please read The Rational Male.

The truth is deliberately hidden from men early in their life. What is that truth? That your late 30's are actually your prime, IF you made the most of your time leading up to them. You still have the majority of your looks, with added status, income and maturity.

Why is it kept a secret? Because if any guy knew it, no way they would get married by 29 to some baby crazy woman who stops enjoying sex the moment the baby comes out and had already hit the wall at that age.

I'm 32 and I just have no plan or interest in going near anyone over 26. My last 2 lays were 24 and 21 and with the 21yo it was absolutely wild. They're actually harder to game as they approach 30 IMO. It's all about how you're a good father type even if you clearly have absolutely no plans for that.

Socially it's harder - work colleagues and others your age will have given up on life. Netflix, ubereats and no plan to ever get back in shape. So be the one hitting the gym 3-5 times a week, eating right, sleeping right and socialising and you will be energetic, good looking, and charismatic with much less effort than if you actively destroy your life with a shit lifestyle.

I know I missed out on a lot of what my 20's should have been but you can't look back. I'm actually excited because now I know the reality of the world and sexual marketplace and there is always definitive action I can take. There are very few mysteries or even setbacks, you just have to keep working on yourself and everything in your life that matters.

canarywocoalmine · 2018-10-26T17:49:43+00:00

I just discovered/rediscovered it and I'm 49. I've been having no trouble dating women in their early 30s. I'd say your 30s have the potential to be the best, so, don't feel like that is old. I do a HIIT training class and I push it as hard as the guys in their 20s. (A lot of young men are in really shitty physical shape).

With that said, a couple of big things. 1-Figure out a diet that works for you. (I'm ketogenic and it helps keep me thin). 2-get yourself in great shape and keep yourself there. I do not look anywhere near 50 (this includes lifting weights, I do it for me, but it's really cool when a woman grabs your arm or chest to feel your muscles, it's like a little bonus) You don't want to get into a cycle of gaining and losing weight, getting out of shape and back in shape, it's hard on you. 3-Keep a young mindset. Keep learning new things. This will keep your mind young but also make you much more interesting to women.

robershow · 2018-10-26T19:38:54+00:00

As long as you stop aging /r/SkincareAddiction /r/keto /r/Fitness you’ll make a killing. I’m 34 and I’m having the most success with women ever. Tons of dates, fucks, kisses don’t have to try hard. Just keep yourself looking young; girls will love it, old guy with experience that looks like 25-28.

alphabachelor · 2018-10-26T19:07:36+00:00

If your game is tight and things are going in your favor (good job, you live frugally so you’re flush with cash, etc), dress well, work out and eat well; you’ll start to notice women being more eager to date you.

That is because as a woman’s fertility decreases so does her looks. It’s biology’s way of getting you to reproduce with the most viable candidates.

There are some benefits. I find older women can be more mature. Have most of their shit together, etc. Avoid single moms as almost all of them looking for a provider.

And you’ll also find out how many young girls have Daddy complexes.

K3wp · 2018-10-26T21:08:48+00:00

Early thirties is the absolute killing fields and it almost wrecked me personally.

The reason being, there is something about women aged ~28 that causes their internal switches to flip and they are really aggressively looking for someone stable to settle down with. So if you have a high "mature" SMV (in shape, well dressed, good job, good personality), then you will have your pick of the litter. They will start DQ'ing douchebags/'bad boys' and start looking for more of a 'nice' guy.

The downside of this (at least for me) was that I had so much attention, particularly from HB's, that I was hooking up (and subsequently DQ'ing) like crazy. I was like a modern Tinder chick, I get a little pushback, drama, crazy, or coldness and I would just move on.

I also discovered, the hard way, that women's perspective on players/PUAs vs. 'nice' guys starts to invert around this age. Girls in their early 20's want the guy that is fucking all their friends. Girls in their late 20's/30's want the exact opposite and will actively DQ you for being a player. Particularly in their social circle or with 'trashy' chicks. I managed to get this process exactly backwards, btw.

Also, expect some serious "Next Generation" shit-tests from the AAA/HBs looking to get married. They are absolutely brutal. And its up to you whether or not you want to (try to) pass them or tap out.

If I had to do it over again in the modern era:

1) I would be on Tinder/Bumble and more looking to date outside of my neighborhood and social circle. So I'm less likely to get blowback or drama from hookups in my social circle. For example, there was a 'blowout' when a AAA/HB found out I had a ONS with her best friend. Abundance is your friend.

2) As a followup to point #1, I really wish I was more active about DQ'ing HBs for PUA drama. For example; after some discussion here I realized that I was giving a pass to certain behavior from 9-10s that a 7-8 would have been fired for. So lesson learned there.

3) I would have been less 'picky' and followed through on a ton of 'day game' and random IoI's that I just ignored. Again, abundance in all things.

4) I wouldn't have DQ'ed younger girls. I remember getting hung up because a girl was 24, for example. Wouldn't do the same now, even though I'm much older.

californiawaves23 · 2018-10-26T17:50:14+00:00

I’m 31 and my game has only improved. I’ve just seen so many angles and been in so many situations that I know how to play things out. I do look younger so I can still go to a younger bar but do not sweat my friend. Be the best version of yourself and you’ll find plenty of opportunities.

LimitedContributor · 2018-10-26T22:14:19+00:00

I'm in the same boat as you, dog. Currently 28 and have NO! experience in the dating field since I broke from the anxiety curse so late, when I was 25 and lost as f for it.

SnowyWalk · 2018-10-26T23:49:23+00:00

Can I get as many women as I could in my 20s?

Its way easier in your 30s than in your 20s. Most girls prefer guys their age or older and women in 20s are in demand by everyone and they are the only people willing to date guys in their early 20s, so girls have a huge advantage at that age and guys have to work super hard to make anything happen. In your 30s that turns around, suddenly girls will be interested in you.

teufelshunde4 · 2018-10-27T14:46:18+00:00

First 30 isn't old, your going to find out that you can grow as a man alot more in your 30's. You will find that a whole new group of women will desire you. I got married when i was 21 and divorced at 38. I learned alot about myself thru those hard times. I was worried, how would i find anyone who would want a 38 yr old divorcee?

Well little did i know how many good women want a man in his late 30's. I am nothing more then a regular guy, but i met & dated some awesome women . Met my current wife during that time too..

LingeringGnome · 2018-10-27T21:40:53+00:00

I'll be turning 29 in a few weeks, and it has really hit hard me lately how old i'm getting and how fast time is passing by.

LOL! Does the bull elk whine about getting older? Nope. He just does his thing, and the harem follows.

My concern is that your 30s are a different time in your life

Every new minute is a different time in your life.

Stop the pity party.

and I'm not sure what to expect. Can I get as many women as I could in my 20s?

that's up to you. If you get fat and embrace a TV and couch lifestyle like 97% of men in their 30's, your social life is effectively over. If you BECOME what you want to attract (IE you like fit 20-somethings, so you devote two hours 3x a week to weight training), then you will get MORE women, like I do.

Can my sex life be just as good or better?

Again, it's all what you put into it. If you get fat, focus on following sports teams and love snacking over reading new books, working out, and continuing to learn, your sex life is doomed. Your choice.

dailymanup · 2018-10-31T07:40:46+00:00

For most guys it actually gets better. More experience combined with more confidence. And girls love to bang older guys. You can have massive fun in your thirties.

I suggest you check out the book Make Women Chase You. This book heavily emphasizes making fun, engaging and challenging conversation with women -- including completely written out conversation examples to demonstrate the techniques.

In addition, the unique aspect of this book is that it includes 25 approaches, completely written out with what to do, what the goals are etc. The approaches are designed to baby-step the reader through Day Game and Night Game. Each approach incorporates techniques learned in the main course so that you're not just reading, but you're actually taking action, which is critical to success with women.

There is also a complete section on mindset and confidence called 7 Mental Exercises to Get You Laid. And to wrap it up, the final section is called How To Touch Women. In this section, there are fully written out examples of every touch from beginning to end, including examples of how they're incorporated into conversation, so the reader gets a complete understanding of how to escalate attraction through Kino.

Everything you need to dominate your thirties and make your twenties look like child's play. Definitely worth a read.

The book is called Make Women Chase You and you can check it out here.

Indyrect4Lyfe · 2018-10-26T18:57:55+00:00

Many don't like to admit it, but the best time for men sexually is their early 20's or even late teens. Maybe the biggest reason is social opportunity. The top-shelf women date and fuck in their tight-knit "elite" circles. The quintessential demonstration of this are college sororities. Of course, someone will now bring out an example how some 40 y.o. beach bum fucked the hot thot from his college on Spring Break. But how likely it is to be that 40 y.o. self-improved stoicist keyboard warrior monk who would best frat bros over the college hoes?

One exception is if you have a penchant for older women, that is the 30+ crowd. Some "late bloomers" manage to rack up the numbers with women desperate to settle down.

Title	How does seduction change when you transition into your 30s?
Author	jscro
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Date	October 26, 2018 5:20 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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