[LR] - Token Resistance

opportuneport · 2011-05-22T22:13:51+00:00

I still fail to understand why this sort of thing is fun. If someone tells you to stop, tells you they don't want to sleep with you, why is that a turn on? Why wouldn't it always be preferable to find someone who wants to give enthusiastic consent?

DrKinkenstein · 2011-05-22T22:57:25+00:00

A point: if you even get to the point of her "really putting up a fight," yes you should stop immediately...but you crossed the line a while ago, and have now scared the fucking bejeezus out of, traumatized, and sexually assaulted someone. Forget the fact that you might go to jail. Think for a second about the fact that you're mentally scarring someone, probably for life. Stop before then.

For goodness' sake, unbuttoning one's pants doesn't mean "Fuck me now! No means yes!" Maybe it just means that her pants are uncomfortable and she doesn't want to sleep in them. If she fought your advances towards her groin, maybe it means that she doesn't want to have sex, and that if she unbuttons them and you start pawing at her, it's going to make her very uncomfortable, even afraid.

Respect your sexual partner/s' boundaries. Feeling comfortable and safe is very sexy and seductive.

fogu · 2011-05-22T21:39:13+00:00

“I don’t want to”

OK, so when I hear this she wants me to get more aggressive with her and show her I want it and that I can make her want it too? Got it.

How do I tell the difference between passive rape and violent rape, though?

You know, since I'm inebriated and my trained and entrenched sense of sexual entitlement blinds my ability to discern consent?

cubemstr · 2011-05-22T21:13:02+00:00

You guys got x-posted by twoxchromosomes who turned this into a downvoting party. They get pissed, but it happens. My buddy was hitting it off with this chick, took her back to his room to (we all assumed) have sex. The next day he tells us that they didn't because he tried twice to make a move and she said no both times. The day after that, a mutual friend of that girl tell us that she complained that he didn't make a move.

Basically what the man is trying to get at is use common sense. If it's really obvious she doesn't want to have sex, then don't. But if all signs point to yes (and I do mean ALL signs, not just one or two) but she's putting up light "resistance", keep trying.

TofuTofu · 2011-05-22T15:57:11+00:00

Solid advice for overcoming LMR! Upvoted!

Plasmachild · 2011-05-22T18:20:12+00:00

So...this was great. I'd actually like to hear more on it. I never felt too comfortable with the whole "ice out"/LMR thing.

When exactly do you initially start it? You get her pants off and then she stops you. What do you do then? Ice out and do something else until the tension builds up again? Or take 'one step back' but keep making out, etc. as the OP poster says?

Examples/scenarios greatly appreciated...

BH-rAFC · 2011-05-22T18:12:08+00:00

Happened to me too. She said that we were going too fast and that she wants to build comfort by being best friends and seeing if anything develops from there. Hopefully all goes well

clutchPUA · 2011-05-22T17:52:20+00:00

lol good stuff, will keep these in mind

2011-05-22T17:54:32+00:00

Great post. On Friday I had 4 hours of token resistance! Crazy long. Funniest part was when she replaced her pants for a shawl and proceeded to tell me we weren't going to have sex. Right..... it took a lot of patience and as you said, "two steps forward one step back".

Title	[LR] - Token Resistance
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Comments	28
Date	May 22, 2011 3:56 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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