So what really attracts women?

james-robertson · 2019-03-19T02:07:28+00:00

It's a combination. Doing well in any one category will work well, but having 0 points in a category can really hurt. The best advice is to get the basics down in every category as these are often quick wins, and combined will do you well.

You can be a male model, but if you scream and run away every time a woman flirts with you you won't get anywhere.

You can have the best game in the world, but if you smell like shit and have leprosy, your market is going to be limited to other people in a similar situation.

Incels generally have terrible beliefs about themselves and the world, and can't believe that their beliefs are what is holding them back, so they focus on the external things.

PUA is all about "game", so they think game is everything.

Gymbros have learned through experience that muscles aren't everything.

Look after your grooming (haircut, shower, nice clothes, posture) and you'll have the basics down for looks.

Learn to interact with people, read their comfort level and ask for what you want, and you'll have the basics down for game.

Get a normal job and you'll have the basics down for money.

That's all you need. Doing better in one category can help make up for problems elsewhere, but it's much easier to get the basics down across the board.

recyclablebanthas · 2019-03-19T04:41:10+00:00

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So what really attracts women?

This question is not actually relevant. You don't want every woman, really, right? Not every woman is attractive to you. You have a certain taste. You have preferences.

This is like asking, "what attracts men?" Some men will swear up and down that it's tits and ass. It's a slim waist. It's curvy. It's attitude. It's smarts. And on and on it'll go.

The real question is arguably, "What kinds of women do you like, and what do they find attractive?"

But it goes further than that. It's about what kind of person you are. What you need in the people you want to have around you. What supports you? What inspires you? What gets your blood pumping?

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According the the Incels, looks are 90% of it. Then money and status.

They're ruled by fear. Focusing on looks reinforces what they want to believe, which is that they have no control over changing their situation.

Similarly with money and status, they're focused on results that others have done real things to get, ignoring the process, they simply focus on their lack of those things and conclude that it's hopeless.

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According to PUA, pretty much a girl fucks you if your "frame" is greater than hers.

This doesn't even make sense. Let's back the train up a bit. There's no such thing as people going around and comparing frames or something. It's not like someone goes, "Oh, his frame is greater than mine so I submit to him."

Now, if you're talking about confidence, that would make more sense. Or overall inner game. But even then, there is no automatic quality to this. It's not like having your confidence and inner game in order just makes a girl fuck.

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So who is right? Every guy is trying to armchair quarterback what is attractive to women.

First of all, all you've done is select a bunch of incorrect stances and over-generalizations. None of these stances is correct.

Aside from getting your own life in order, so that you're on some sort of path that involves things that are fulfilling to you and make you happy.....
You need to make a social life for yourself if you want the real "Easy Mode" for game.
- Find multiple social circles.
- Build up your social skills through casual and comfortable practice socializing, then it's not so difficult to talk to girls.
- Place yourself around lots of new people to give yourself options.

DarkArtsPUA11 · 2019-03-19T04:25:35+00:00

imagine right now that you had no balls and no sex drive. you literally had no desire for women. you see a pair of tits and ass and you feel nothing, it's like looking at a cock, no difference

now, what would attract you to meet a girl and actually talk to her and keep her around? the answer to that, is exactly what attracts women

Nauplielius · 2019-03-18T23:14:12+00:00

Money, status, frame, height, face, game, confidence, charisma. All help. The only thing women have honestly is face, body, and youth (which affects face and body). While this means less to worry about, it also means less to depend on. A man can afford to be low in one or two of those other things

bitcoino9 · 2019-03-19T01:05:37+00:00

money dont matter in getting women.

Plenty of highschoolers

college dudes

homeless people

as well as dead beats get laid

thepuagrinch · 2019-03-18T23:36:13+00:00

Do you even approach bro ?

White_Mlungu_Capital · 2019-03-19T04:44:58+00:00

Most guys over estimate looks, but it all depends.

Game> Fame> Status> Looks > Money

Looks can be changed to a great degree. A skinny guy can lift weights and workout and probably push his looks up a few points through dress, etc. We all know there are famous men sleeping with women who'd not touch them if they didn't have status and fame. Fame and status don't guarantee a lay if you have no game though.

You could be very ugly, as in literally deformed and still pull women, I knew a guy in high school who had an anyeurism and was very ugly with many zits but got more women than most men because he approached alot. Could a good looking chad come and take his girl anytime, of course. But they usually didn't. And while he might not have pulled any 10s, he was like a 2 or 3 pulling solid 5s and 6s.

Women cannot control their attraction. As a good looking guy, I can tell you, it is not enough to land women without game. You will get brief attention and even approached, but it won't get you even a kiss.

Not_My_Real_Acct_ · 2019-03-19T07:45:48+00:00

The thing that's always worked for me, personally, is to hammer away on the idea that I'm living the type of life that they'd like to be a part of. I'm a millionaire, I live in a nice house, I live in a beautiful city on the ocean.

I think that it helps to cast a wide net. For instance, in Seattle, you can't throw a rock without hitting a millionaire, so flaunting your wealth comes off as Nouveau Riche. But the same routine in Spokane or Olympia elicits a completely different reaction. It pays to be a big fish in a little pond.

dtothetwo · 2019-03-19T10:56:31+00:00

My experience is confidence is number one. Humour is number two. Looks number three.

But that just describes me lol that's what I'm familiar with because those are my tools and assets.

I suspect incels are the opposite. Instead of only seeing the good in themselves like i do. They focus on the bad in themselves. (Not to say i dont see my own flaws but I try to disguise them rather than fixate on them )

Trishbot · 2019-03-19T09:32:18+00:00

I’ll tell you what attracts me in a man and I’m a conventionally attractive girl:

Your drive to get shit done
Sense of humor
Looks

And I’ll explain: your drive to get shit done is the hottest thing ever. It tells me you’re determined and ambitious which makes me feel safe (security) and it makes me want to be around you because you’re someone who I can learn from in a positive way.

A sense of humor is important because finding humor in life is the ultimate cure for depression. There’s a lot of fucked up shit in the world but being able to laugh at the madness and make light of situations always helps keep the demons at bay.

Looks are last because I need to be sexually attracted to you. And you don’t need to look like Brad Pitt or live in the gym or look like a model. I’ve dated all kinds of different guys, from height, weight, ethnicity, etc. I just need to be attracted to your mannerisms and your voice and the way you feel, the physical stuff.

I didn’t mention money because I’ve done well for myself. But if I hadn’t I would probably put it on the list because I’m quite adventurous and I like nice things and I would probably want someone that could provide that. Status doesn’t really mean anything to me.

Hope that helped!

Title	So what really attracts women?
Author	nylostandfound
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Date	March 18, 2019 10:50 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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