I can’t stress this enough, and it’s a hard concept to teach. But I can’t tell you how often I’ve had seemingly boring conversations with women and still gotten a number/makeout/whatever was appropriate at that setting.

You don’t have to be this insanely suave, witty guy who has the perfect thing to say. Learning a fuck ton of routines and outer game makes you think this is the case, but it’s really not.

Strong presence is important. Non-neediness is important. Assertiveness is important. You don’t showcase these things effectively with your words, but with your body language and how you feel inside.

Your opener doesn’t matter. Seriously, I can’t stress enough that it doesn’t matter if you go direct or indirect or observational or just say something completely off the wall and random. If you give off a creepy vibe, it will fail. If you give off a laid back, non-needy vibe, it will succeed as long as she is logistically open to being approached. In conversation, you can blurt out completely random, off the wall shit. If you’re saying it because you feel like she’ll like it, you will give off a needy vibe. If you say it because you are entertained by it, she’ll be intrigued by your masculine presence.

This is true game. Listen guys, the routines shit is unnecessary. Stop gauging whether you’re alpha enough or using enough push/pull or trying to figure out which part of the M3 chart you need to transition to next. I picked up and fucked a girl last night with the most bland conversation ever. I opened her by asking her if she was waiting for a Tinder date. After that, she did 75% of the talking, and we talked about her siblings, her job, and every other boring ass topic that the gurus tell you to stay away from.

Doesn’t matter. I enjoyed myself, I was a present listener, I showed intent by calibrated physical escalation, I made eye contact, I felt like I was interested but that I didn’t need her to validate my self esteem, and that’s it. No witty banter. No negging. No teasing. No push/pull. Just presence, an easy going conversation, and strong sub-communication.

I strongly recommend Social Freedom Tribe’s programs and videos. It’s different, but honestly one of the best ways to get a grasp of the concept of sub communication.