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[–]gorillavitz 79 points80 points81 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I lost a whole bunch of money, chasing bitches But I never lost no bitches chasing money, how real is that?
-Royce Da 5'9"
But really, I've it feels like the busier I am with other things in my life the more attractive I seem
[–]that-freakin-guy 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
💯💯💯
[–]SFSylvester 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That single line quote is far better than the narcissism espoused by OP in this post.
[–]BassNet 19 points20 points21 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You don't want us to smother a girl, but you also don't want us to hold back attraction? If I'm really attracted to a girl, I often have to hold back my attraction in order to invest less and not to smother the girl. Sometimes I try to be less attracted to her so that I don't put her on a pedestal.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm thinking what it comes down to is during your interactions, always be escalating. Leave no doubt as to your intentions. When you text/talk on the phone keep it simple and to the point without bombarding her all day, every day.
You're not actively trying to stay in her life but when you cross paths you're enjoying yourself and you're enjoying her company because she's enjoying yours.
[–]Black_Belt_Troy 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
"Give her the gift of missing you."
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This
I am loving this quote
[–]seduce_my_anus 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
For us newbies here, could you please elaborate on what that means to you?
[–]Black_Belt_Troy 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Here you go.
[–]Moxiecodone 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Signed up. Interested in hearing more honest perspectives about seduction. Digressing game and transcendence are super important to me.
[–]Jaegar 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
People try to simplify human interaction into a universal, “one size fits all” solution, and it fails miserably.
So true. This article is well written and really resonates with my experience, nicely done, I look forward to more excellent pieces.
[–]that-freakin-guy 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The problem is cookie cutter formulas are not meant for the experienced, they're meant for the amateurs.
If I tell you to make a girl miss you and you have no idea about game, you have no idea what that means. However, if I give you a rule of thumb like text only once and wait an hour or so before you respond, suddenly you have to think more carefully about what you're going to say when you finally decide to say it.
The same goes for fitness. Cookie cutter lifting routines exist for amateurs because throwing someone into isolation training is very intense right out of the gate. Instead of 6-10 total lifts, you have to worry about both bicep muscles, all three triceps, the four quadriceps, obliques, lower abs, upper abs, upper traps and rhomboids, posterior, anterior, and lateral deltoids, calves, glutes, hamstrings, chest, the lower back, and there are 10 workouts for each muscle that you have to piece together to make a full workout. But if I give you bench, squats, deadlifts, overhead press and power cleans, suddenly you only have to worry about programming and reps/sets. It's much easier to understand and when you get a fundamental understanding of what each lift actually does, you can figure out programming to replace that lift with isolation exercises.
Cookie cutter ideas must remain for those that are starting. I don't follow the rules these days, I understand how to not care and rather focus on school, my car, my vaping, and my lifting while women will always exist. Then I can approach them on my time and the lack of stress makes my life easier. However when I was learning, I didn't know how to not be desperate no matter how much I tried to understand it, and finally understanding the fundamentals of why I waited an hour before texting made it easier to replace the programming with stuff more tailored for my style of approach.
You're trying to take someone that just got their license and telling them to aim for the best lap time they can before they even know about apexes and lateral grip. This doesn't work for those that have no idea what those words even mean.
[–]ericblobb2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Loved how you emphasized the nuances in the abundance mindset. Most things in life are nuanced, meaning they have two sides/thoughts to them.
It is extremely important not to take any advice dogmatically as almost all advice has an exception to the rule.
[–]nicechallenge 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I have to disagree because when I was not paying attention to pursuing some kind of relationship there was zero success even though I was totally non-needy. Once I started reading PU material I decided that it was time to make a change, no girl will ever come if I don't approach. Since the beginning of my journey I'd had never imagine how far I got, so I'd stay with the abundance mentality even if it comes as needy I don't care because results are results.
[–]Helping_men_succeed2 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
You're absolutely correct — I tried to discuss this and I probably should have done a better job.
There's not being on the radar at all (where you were), and then there's trying so hard it's obvious and a turn-off (you apparently never went that far). I've seen way too many guys get into it and go full tryhard mode, so this piece is targeted towards them. There are absolutely people who don't have that issue, and don't need this at all.
Cheers!
[–]nicechallenge 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the explanation bro, yeah it's nice to use pick up to reach whatever you goal is. I'd only go full tryhard mode if I were to become professional PUA but for begginers like myself it's very hard to do anything near that level haha.
[–]confusedcsguy 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This shit should be side barred
[–]white_gelt 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
doing poorly with women lowers your confidence, which leads to doing worse with women, which leads to even worse confidence.
This begs the question and the premise is false in many people.
[–]Masterplacebo1 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
How is having an abundance of women paradoxical exactly? Having an abundance mindset is literally not putting any particular women on a pedestal!
[–]dandanthemuffinsman 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great post, this was very refreshing to read.
[–]brazilianpapi 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The place women have in my life is in the kitchen. But really well explained, first useful post here at /r/seduction in a while
[–]Helping_men_succeed1 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Ha ha, diet sexism got old a while ago man.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
[–]brazilianpapi 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha oh come on, I had to make the joke after reading the topic title. Good job though
[–]DrinkWorkWriteRepeat0 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
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